old55

It's not my claim. Quote or it didn't happen

That is not a quote. Are your sure it's not

Got a quote of where he said that?

This actually movement, it will be helpful to get this done. If it's 11 for Lobb + 25, Freo may offer us 5 + 25 which is close enough to 5 + 23 for me If it's 11 for Lobb + 43 who knows what might happen.

Lyon bait?

Friday, 5 October: Restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period starts. Monday, 8 October 10am: NAB AFL Trade Period starts. Friday, 12 October 5pm: Close of restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period. Monday, 15 October 2pm: AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends. Wednesday, 17 October 8.30pm: NAB AFL Trade Period closes (for exchange of players). Friday, 16 November 2pm: NAB AFL Trade Period closes (for exchange of selections only). Thursday, 22 November 7pm – 9.30pm: NAB AFL Draft (Round One). Friday, 23 November 10am – 1.30pm: NAB AFL Draft (Round Two onwards to conclusion). Friday, 23 November 5pm: NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft and NAB AFL Rookie Draft.

Yes, the Suns are probably happy to get their hands on 5 from us because pick trading continues on after this Wednesday deadline and they could still strike an attractive deal with Adelaide or Port.

Look I'm very happy to "call" you on this topic and AFL knowledge in general.. I think Mahoney is one of the best operators in the AFL and you think he's ordinary. The trade up for Oliver and Weed picks was unprecedented in AFL - maybe Mahoney has been studying the NFL and is ahead or the curve here.

As long this trade remains incomplete it means we still believe we're in the Hogan trade market.

You're a massive hypocrite - you accused me of posting drunk first. Raising NFL trades that are irrelevant to the AFL context and unknown to all but a small group of posters here who follow the NFL is not a constructive argument.

Or Fremantle offer us 5 + 30 which is their next pick and try to hold onto 14. That sounds more like Bell's MO. There'll be epic melts here if that happens and we do that deal.

On points 14 = 23 + 45. When your first two picks are 36 and 46 it probably does make a difference.

70 posts in 13 years. ETD makes that many per hour. Quality over Quantity?

You're the the dope who bizarrely introduced irrelevant and obscure NFL draft references to the argument. "RG3" - you're a [censored].

You're right Mahoney's a dunce, he thought he was trading up so Taylor could take Walter Payton at 4. Imagine his surprise when that didn't happen!

We keep hearing about him

Will you be MIA for those 12 months and then be reborn like the phoenix (that could be your next user name) Seems like an unfair bet.

Mahoney, Taylor and no doubt Viney collaborated to engineer a major recruiting coup.

If trading up to enable Taylor to select Oliver and Weed isn't a massive win then we've got a lot to look forward to.

It must be challenging to live with disappointment year on year.

Yes OMac's improvement curve is pretty steep and he seems very coachable. I expect him to take another leap in 2019. Lever in the side will make him better still and we'll either have May or Hogan back there too. I'm excited at the prospects for improvement.

Comparing May and Oscar is not valid. Oscar is 22, the valid comparison is May at 22 in 2014 with Oscar now. Oscar is on a steep improvement curve year on year and will become a very strong all round defender.

I'm feeling content - no lose situation. Trade with Fremantle will happen at a reasonable price and we'll on trade for May. Trade doesn't happen and an exciting experiment with Jesse at CHB in 2019. The dogs may bark but the caravan rolls along.

Yes total outlier situation when we were bleeding goals. Akin to the last 2 minutes of quarters. It's pulling the emergency cord. The context of the question was using Hogan as starting CHB next year. Are you seriously suggesting that we'll ever start TMac as key back in the future? It's over - he's a key forward. .