Colm

Given where Cal has Alwyn Davey Jnr at 17. Essendon's pick 22 could be available.

From what I have read Jefferson is going to take years to develop. I think we need to draft a player that can have an impact in the next year or two with at least one of our picks, preferably 13.

Given that he hasn’t really been mentioned in any of the phantoms or in the top 30 prospects, if we were keen on him would we not be better to trade up from pick 37 into somewhere in the 20s and grab him or another key position. Grab a good midfielder if one slides to us with pick 13 if not grab a good lockdown/ rebounding defender to cover the loss of Hunt and a replacement for the pig. I’m keen on us getting a good defender with a strong body that will be ready to play next season. Could also allow Bowey to play further up the field.

I tend to agree with you. I think some posters are overrating our draft hand next year. Let’s all hope Freo fall down the ladder and their future pick will be inside the top 10. But they have a very good core of young players that will only improve. There’s every chance that our draft hand next year will only be a late second rounder better than what Sydney (14,17 and 42) is this year. Nobody is raving about the great draft position Sydney is in this year. It all depends on how JT rates the talent in this draft but I’d be surprised if we don’t at least improve our second pick this year.

Interesting that you have us taking two endurance runners who will probably play wing. We just trade hunter to play on wing and we have JJ, Gus and Langdon who can play there. Have you just gone for what you think is best available at both of our picks? Agree we would pick Hollands if he was still there at 13

Yes but know their luck he will request to be trade there in 2 years and they will end up with 2 top 10 picks from this draft.

After a season where we virtually give no new young talent games we simple have to next year. The problem is that few were banging the door down to get a game. I only watch half a dozen Casey games this year and kept a close eye on Laurie, JVR and Howes as they were our higher picks. Laurie was the pick after Bowey and JT raved about both of them at the time. We could do we his quality kicking too but I didn’t see him put in one game where he played well in 4 quarters at VFL level. JVR looks good and should get games but people need to lower their expectations of him for next year I think. Howes looked ok in patches and hopefully will benefit from another preseason. Really hope that an extra preseason sees a big improvement in some of our younger players and that we bring in a couple through the draft that will be able to make an impact next season.

Do you know if there’s greater depth next year as well as better top end talent?

God I hope WC get picks 8&12. I think that would swing the balance back in our favour. If Freo don’t up their offer I’d take pick 8 and a seal of future first. It’s still unders but at least we get high end talent.

Does anybody know what the rules if we go past the deadline and don’t get a deal done? Can he resign with us at that stage? Or does he automatically go to the PSD?

If we do that the pies will want 19 for Grundy

Seems fair but I think Geelong want to hold onto pick 7 for Jhye Clarke which would mean they could be bringing in 4(that’s right 4) first round draft picks this year. WTF

I agree that’s Freos first from this year and next along with Norths F2nd will get the deal done and I’ll be happy bough with that. I do however expect us to trade the two future first to improve our draft hand this year. Looks like we will only bring Grundy in this trade window and as Lamb said we are in a “win now” phase. Would be better to get quality players out of this draft and get games into them. I know next years draft is a stronger draft but we have shown in the past few years we would rather get players in a year earlier. If we can still keep some good picks in the second round of next years draft I’m sure JT will get some good talent out of it. Also I think that next years draft being stronger will make it easier to trade into this one.

Just been reported on Trade Radio that Freo want a pick between 15-22 for Lobb. They are waiting for the Dunkley deal to be done first.

It’s just the same thing Carlton did with Martin a few years ago. $1.5m would only be in the first year.

I thought this at first too but they aren’t even offering what they have at the minute in terms of a future second rounder. #Bellend

I know what your saying DD and I still can’t understand how Geelong had the cap space to buy pick 7. You have to hand it to them their list management is the best in the game. At the start of the trade period I was very disheartened to see what our rivals are able to do in terms of bringing in players that are ready to go and will improve their list straight away and the only player we seem to be in for is Grundy. But having listened to Lambs interviews I’m of the opinion that if we don’t trade in any other player in this window we will do very well out of this draft and bring in at least 2 high quality players that should be ready to go next year. I think we will add our future first to the bounty we get from Freo and hit this draft much the same as when we picked up Jackson, Koissie and Rivers. Just saying wait until after trade window and draft are done and dusted and then judge our off season compared to others.

Not bad LN but I don’t think we need to send a pick to Freo in the first part of the deal, also don’t think we would trade back down from 7 if we were to get it.

I think the Bedford trade might have to wait a little while. Don’t think we will pull the trigger on it until after the Grundy deal and perhaps not until after the Hopper deal. Im hoping that we end up with Grundy and pick 30 and maybe trade out a future 3rd. Would be great bit of business and very possible.

I’d be surprised if that was the case LH. Pies have asked for a pick inside top 25. We are very close with 27. If we add the Bedford pick then we are going way over their asking price.

If we are only using 2 picks I would think they will be very high picks. I expect us to be aggressive in trying to get our trading done early to give us the best possible chance of moving up the board. I wonder if the JHF to Port has made it more urgent to get our deals done. I assume North will want at least one pick at the very pointing end of this years draft to be part of the deal. Given how difficult top 7 picks are to trade for JHF trade could make the market a lot more competitive.

Given the amount of players they are losing Freo will have to keep some picks to fill spots on their list.

Think we will get Grundy over the line for whatever we get for Bedford and pick 32.

Added to the offer they have already made I think this future second gets it done. We would like more but I feel that’s enough to get the deal done.

Freo have received a future 2nd &3rd from North for Logue and Tucker. Gives them more draft capital to get Jackson.