Colm

I had hoped at the start of this season that we could manage both of them well enough to give us the equivalent of one fit forward. Unfortunately neither of their bodies held up and it proved to be very costly for us. If we go into next season needing to get a good return of games out of them then our season is already starting to look like them- cooked. At best I think Tmac might be able to come in and play 5/6 games when we are stuck. Considering Grundy will be gone and Pig has retired we will have cap space and unless we are bringing in a gun that we haven’t heard about perhaps we are happy just to let them see out the last year of their contracts. No need to push them out the door if we are not spending the money on somebody else. Both have been great servants to the club.

He’s the one I’m hoping we go for. May replacement. Can hopefully have an impact next season. Could be potential swing man next year if Petty goes down injured again. Next year is meant to have few KPP so a good time to pick up one. In a perfect world we’d also get pick 4 and take Mckercher, Watson or Duursma but if we cant get pick 4 then O’Sullivan and Wilson or Windsor would be nice.

I think this makes real sense for us. Won’t play most weeks but worthy of decent contract as cover for Max and maybe ruck coach afterwards. We might have to guarantee him a certain number of games but given Maxxys age that shouldn’t be too much of a problem. Great number 2 while we bring Verrall along. Him learning from Max, Goldy and Grundy can only be a good thing. Also allows us to cash in on Grundy and spend the profits elsewhere.

Any of our draft watchers seen much of Will Dawson? I only saw him play to games in defence for Vic country and was impressed. Tall, big body can intercept. I’m just wondering if we don’t manage to get O’Sullivan who else we could target as a KPD. The 15-40 range seems very hard to predict this year. You would have to be confident that JT could find a gem in that range. I’m hoping we hold onto our early second round pick.

Given he’s probably getting his info from the people making the decision I’d be surprised if he’s wrong.

It’s a ridiculous amount to be given them. They can now get Harley Reid and still manage to have 2 top 10 picks this year if they trade well. Picks 2 & 14 for pick 1. Still leaves them with pick 3, 11 and two future firsts. Crazy. Can you imagine they could pick up Reid, Duursma and O’Sullivan from this draft. With your point about trading out of this years draft and into next years- they( gettable)did have a quick run down of the top draft prospects for next year. 90% were midfielders. I’ve been very keen on us trading out our future first and getting pick 4. But given the capital other have to throw at that pick will push the cost up and given how compromised the pointing end of this draft has become we might be better to hold onto our future first.

Cal all but confirmed on Gettable that North will get pick 3 as compo, pick 11 and future end of first pick as a hand out. Won’t get access to Sanders

North are really going to shape this draft eh. If the above does happen they would be in the box seat for the Suns pick 4. Package up 10&14. Giving them 2,3&4 Alternatively they could split 3 with us and still get Sanders. You would think they would be keen to bring in some established player rather than 3/4 first round picks.

With regards to a trade with Sydney. A future second and pick 41 is prob about right and would probably give us the upper hand in getting pick 4 from the Suns.

I’m thinking along the same lines. Perhaps there was a fallout when he met Port publicly in the run up to finals. Perhaps him have so many close friends at Collingwood left him a bit in the outer both pre and post Pies game.

All the best JJ. Agree with others that it was a shame he didn’t get a run in 2021 GF. Probably a wise move for him to try and get more regular game time elsewhere. Hopefully a few clubs being in for him will push up the value of his contract and be beneficial to both him and the club.

Not to mention they already received two early second rounders from this draft last year.

I’m aware of the above SD. Perhaps I should have maybe worded it differently. The point I was making is that with North possible getting pick 3 and possible 3 academy players before O’Sullivan. Our pick is pretty close to where he’s rated. The poster I was replying to wondered if we may have been taking him too early.

O'Sullivan is rated number 10 in most draft orders that I have seen. He’s also the second best KPD prospect in the draft. Assume Walters, Reid and Sanders go to 10 to their academy clubs that bring O’Sullivan into 7 so not much of a reach for us. GWS and Cats could pounce if we let him slip past our pick.

Only way I can see is getting pick 11 as part of the Grundy deal is if it’s a swap with pick 13. Pick 30 & 11 for Grundy and 13. Would be about right too. But pick 22 is a fair trade as well.

Giants should be out of sight. They will still get up but making it harder than it should be. Hopefully they ice it quickly at the start of this quarter and are fresh to face the filth.

Great thread @layzie Demonland is an amazing resource and platform to engage with some great people and learn so much about the club and the game in general. I’m addicted.

People blaming player selection and tactics are off their heads. I will admit that I’m also guilty of the same thing at times But we did more than enough to win in all aspects of the game tonight apart from goal kicking. We were on top and should have kicked enough goals to win by 4/5 goals. 3 posters in the last q. Bad kicking is bad footy they say. Such a shame to have lost the opportunity of another flag This team has under achieved ☹️

Cheers for that. If we don’t trade up with our second pick he might appeal to us. I assume you’d have Darcy Wilson ahead of him but he’s unlikely to be on the board unless we trade up.

I hope club waits till after the game and then puts out a statement and that Goody and all of the players and staff just say no comment when asked about the decision.

Why would they appeal they already got the result they wanted. Collingwood players doesn’t get rubbed out and helps them match towards a GF and for extra cherry on top the findings hold Gus partly reasonable in case there’s any legal action taken down the track. Couldn’t make this [censored] up.

This is where I’m at too. Line in the sand moment for me. Foxtel can go, same with AFL app. I have started to really enjoy the under age stuff leading up to the draft so might explore if I can watch more of that without Foxtel, local footy might be an option too. Or else something non footy related to fill the void. Hard to see me not watching Melbourne games but not getting as emotionally invested in organisation that that has zero care about its integrity, player welfare or fans. All about the money baby.

Cal September rankings are out. Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking @dazzledavey36 I see Caleb Windsor is a bit of a bolter( up to 14) now. A classy mid apparently. Have you seen much of him?

Too angry so got F all sleep last night. Now I’m tired and still angry. Still can’t get over the fact they put some of the blame on Brayshaw. I assume this is just to cover their [censored] in any future legal case. Just like if two cars crash into each other. The insurance company representing the guilty party will try to put some blame and therefore liability on the other party. Can be the only explanation I can think of for them say Gus could of “executed the kick differently, or landed in a different spot or manner”

If the AFL appeal can Collingwood appeal that decision if it goes against them?