Colm

I’m actually not. My point is a very simple one and probably more directed at at poster who was saying we should pick O’Sullivan at pick 10 should we get it. He won’t be there at that pick whatever way you look at it.

Given we seem to be getting linked with more first round picks rather than players even though we have a few leaving.Am I the only one starting to wonder if we are trying to get a strong enough hand of first round picks to satisfy WC for pick 1?!

Same same but different I guess in that whatever way you look at it we won’t get O’Sullivan with pick 10 weather your logic is because he’s the 8th best talent available or because the pick becomes pick 13. Either way we don’t get him with that pick.

Not sure I agree with this logic. Take O'Sullivan for example. He’s rated as pick 10 on most boards. But he will be gone well before that pick comes round as it will push out to 13/14.

Cadman is very interesting. Giving GWS traded up to get him. I think from memory he was rated at 4th in the draft but they were very keen in getting a forward and were stacked with picks. He is still a number one pick from last year and would cost us an arm and a leg. Given we have picked key forwards with our first rounders for the last couple of years it’s a big investment in a lot of young talent in one area.

I think our only chance of getting Mckercher is if North want Sanders and are happy to trade back to get him. I wouldn’t rule it out as he seems a better prospect than Humphrey and we offered 3 first round for him last year. Two of which are currently pick 5&13. Big issue with making a similar move for Mckercher might be the Tassie factor. If we trade up and pay overs to get him we are unlikely to get back what we invested should he return to Tas.

Gotta be close eh. I know they are wanting Curtain but they need a heap of new talent. Might be better to take O’Sullivan and 2 others

Ok then, Harmes, pick 5,13 and future first for Harley Reid.

Both teams now have a great hand. Dogs pick 10 might still give them the upper hand though. They could split it for a late first round and future first or a slightly better first round this year and a future 2nd. North May also want to use those picks to trade for players not draft talent. Watson’s recent form hasn’t been as good as the champs and the dogs may not be as willing to over pay.

If Tracs goal stood against the Blues he be a cert for 3 votes.

I wonder how keen North are on him and would he fit well into their midfield? Would he be a better fit than Mckercher? Mckercher might offer more on the outside but they have Sheezel coming through for that. Given he’s likely to be available our pick 5/6 wonder if we might target their pick 3. Pick 5/6 and 24 for pick 3, which is what we originally gave for Jackson.

I had hoped at the start of this season that we could manage both of them well enough to give us the equivalent of one fit forward. Unfortunately neither of their bodies held up and it proved to be very costly for us. If we go into next season needing to get a good return of games out of them then our season is already starting to look like them- cooked. At best I think Tmac might be able to come in and play 5/6 games when we are stuck. Considering Grundy will be gone and Pig has retired we will have cap space and unless we are bringing in a gun that we haven’t heard about perhaps we are happy just to let them see out the last year of their contracts. No need to push them out the door if we are not spending the money on somebody else. Both have been great servants to the club.

He’s the one I’m hoping we go for. May replacement. Can hopefully have an impact next season. Could be potential swing man next year if Petty goes down injured again. Next year is meant to have few KPP so a good time to pick up one. In a perfect world we’d also get pick 4 and take Mckercher, Watson or Duursma but if we cant get pick 4 then O’Sullivan and Wilson or Windsor would be nice.

I think this makes real sense for us. Won’t play most weeks but worthy of decent contract as cover for Max and maybe ruck coach afterwards. We might have to guarantee him a certain number of games but given Maxxys age that shouldn’t be too much of a problem. Great number 2 while we bring Verrall along. Him learning from Max, Goldy and Grundy can only be a good thing. Also allows us to cash in on Grundy and spend the profits elsewhere.

Any of our draft watchers seen much of Will Dawson? I only saw him play to games in defence for Vic country and was impressed. Tall, big body can intercept. I’m just wondering if we don’t manage to get O’Sullivan who else we could target as a KPD. The 15-40 range seems very hard to predict this year. You would have to be confident that JT could find a gem in that range. I’m hoping we hold onto our early second round pick.

Given he’s probably getting his info from the people making the decision I’d be surprised if he’s wrong.

It’s a ridiculous amount to be given them. They can now get Harley Reid and still manage to have 2 top 10 picks this year if they trade well. Picks 2 & 14 for pick 1. Still leaves them with pick 3, 11 and two future firsts. Crazy. Can you imagine they could pick up Reid, Duursma and O’Sullivan from this draft. With your point about trading out of this years draft and into next years- they( gettable)did have a quick run down of the top draft prospects for next year. 90% were midfielders. I’ve been very keen on us trading out our future first and getting pick 4. But given the capital other have to throw at that pick will push the cost up and given how compromised the pointing end of this draft has become we might be better to hold onto our future first.

Cal all but confirmed on Gettable that North will get pick 3 as compo, pick 11 and future end of first pick as a hand out. Won’t get access to Sanders

North are really going to shape this draft eh. If the above does happen they would be in the box seat for the Suns pick 4. Package up 10&14. Giving them 2,3&4 Alternatively they could split 3 with us and still get Sanders. You would think they would be keen to bring in some established player rather than 3/4 first round picks.

With regards to a trade with Sydney. A future second and pick 41 is prob about right and would probably give us the upper hand in getting pick 4 from the Suns.

I’m thinking along the same lines. Perhaps there was a fallout when he met Port publicly in the run up to finals. Perhaps him have so many close friends at Collingwood left him a bit in the outer both pre and post Pies game.

All the best JJ. Agree with others that it was a shame he didn’t get a run in 2021 GF. Probably a wise move for him to try and get more regular game time elsewhere. Hopefully a few clubs being in for him will push up the value of his contract and be beneficial to both him and the club.

Not to mention they already received two early second rounders from this draft last year.

I’m aware of the above SD. Perhaps I should have maybe worded it differently. The point I was making is that with North possible getting pick 3 and possible 3 academy players before O’Sullivan. Our pick is pretty close to where he’s rated. The poster I was replying to wondered if we may have been taking him too early.

O'Sullivan is rated number 10 in most draft orders that I have seen. He’s also the second best KPD prospect in the draft. Assume Walters, Reid and Sanders go to 10 to their academy clubs that bring O’Sullivan into 7 so not much of a reach for us. GWS and Cats could pounce if we let him slip past our pick.