John Demonic

i was suprised to hear that wingards demand may have come down to 800 on AFL Tonight. He clearly has the greatest upside of all crumbing forwards, which of course comes with the greater risk at the price given inconsistency. Although 800 isn't what it used to be. Could end up a bargain if he kicks 50-60 a year. Tough to trade for him though.

I do most of my AFL social media on reddit's /r/AFL community, which is a pretty respectful place where boastful arrogance is downvoted and the highest upvoted comments from eagles fans today were genuine congratulatory messages for our year in the post match thread. "You should be proud of your team" "Bad day at the office but you had a ripper of a season", "It was a great season. Melbourne played some exciting footy this year." & "I was not expecting that performance from Melbourne but Richmond were the best team this season and I genuinely feel that Melbourne's best was equivalent to Richmond's best. As shitty as today is, it's not 186. Your boys will bounce back from this and raise the bar for themselves over the next couple of years." I guess if you're judging a club by their vitriolic fans at a match, or idiots from bigfooty or facebook pages then you'll probably end up hating every single club vehemently, but only distinguishing who you hate least by the higher ratio of civil people to idiots. I'm running out of other clubs to want to win a premiership (Freo, StK) so I guess i'll jump on the Eagles. That egotistical Fratboy Mason Cox rubs me the wrong way, and so does my arrogant Collingwood supporting cousin.

I recall him only saying that he needs to improve his positioning and not be pushed under so easily. So he was bang on. No one with half a brain said he needed to be dropped as you dont destabilize team structure in a prelim.

One POV is that if quality nominates you, it's an advantageous occurrence, that is not guaranteed to happen all the time. So you shift the magnets and make a trade happen, even if you don't think it's a critical need. It's still an upgrade for locking down a fwd imo. Trade Frost if need be. HBF/Hunt provides dash, its not an important KPD assett, it's icing.

Maybe wait a week and see if they put up a good performance in the granny, maybe their pressure and forward craft will be as weak as a Jeff garlett unsighted 2018 performance. But if entertaining question. I think port have Jake neade, Karl Amon and wingard available. Richmond have Shai Bolton to trade for?

Well at least I saved mobile data on not watching the second half. Apologies to the players for not giving them a fair go and seeing them claw back a semi respectable 50points. I just didn't have the heart to watch.

They were, but Richmond were also lamentable. All our 'we can beat them' thoughts as dees supporters since that Anzac game victory back in 2016 came home to roost last night. Average clearance midfield that hacks it up in the air. GOt destroyed by a great midfield. 1 tall fwd line style that expired within a year, and an overrated defence with 'the best defender of the decade' who can't play one on one. I think the Eagles would put up a better performance esp with McGovern blocking Cox run, not that we'll let em. Gawn will be there blocking Cox from his aerial threat. Go Dees

Greece here, I'll watch it on delay after I wake up tomorrow and have breaky (which will be 6 or 7pm melb time) - Just have to not accidentally and catastrophically check the news out of habit. I hate live streams for their penchant to drop out on my slow mobile network and for my inability to fast forward due to nerves.

Just finished watching on delay, wowee. A victory for footy imo. Not because of a premier being beaten but because a clean disposing fast running team won. Richmond's kicks were all messy hacks into forward line with 1 tall. They're an avg clearance team at best. I don't want to see that kind of style being a dominant force over the comp. Collingwood provides a much more exciting evolution for the game and for one of two other exciting attacking teams to try and match next week Bad news for us? Sure, if you're insecure about our team. But it emphasizes how much better we have to now play from a 'capitalizing on clean Inside 50s' POV ie not turning it over with their rebound power. With Richmond we can wear them down, with Coll we have to now be more precise. Our mids vs theirs is a salivatingly colosal encounter. Gawn v Grundy (if we make GF)

You left out our acquisition of Andy Brayshaw with that pick 6* perhaps?

This thread is a disgrace. Didn't any of you blokes watch the Sunday footy show with TMAC the boys call him frittata

Don't forget the question of which defender will take McGovern if he is thrown forward in a last quarter if we're ahead ? From memory TMAC rolled back and took a mark last week but I don't think we can mess with our fwd structure.

Simpson and co backed gaff to develop that side of his game. Goodwin can do the same with one of our players or bring an outside elite runner in and condition them into becoming a high pressure tough nut that can get their own footy.

Tiger bandwagonner!

They're called a cheer squad? And the dude sporting Woewodins hair style looks to be the prime motivator

A bit rich coming from you. Where's your apology for Jordan Lewis? Haven't heard a peep from that Trainwreck of a thread criticising him all year. ?

The people who refuse to find a negative because things are going good appear a little sheepish too. Balls Grinter was one of the only people not emotively blaming the umpires after the game and actually discussing the tactical nature of how Hawthorn played. I agree though that how we handled the situation when things weren't going our way tactically was a step forwards.

Who will take McGovern if he goes forward for a last quarter to arrest a 2 goal margin? Edit: Next year I can see the massive benefit of playing Preuss in the ruck as we put Gawn in defence for big patches of quarters as the opposition have momentum.

I'd be more worried about Ray 'doesnt deserve a nickname' Chamberlain getting the gig on saturday again. At least Nichols pays what he sees. Chamberlain last night seemed to actively avoid calling clear HTB's, like he had some kind of.. agenda

His positive/negative ratio out weighs other players on the fringe it seems. Just as an aside, hearing him talk in the media has shown me that he does have a mature head on him, so perhaps that is one element of his continued selection, having a mid who understands his role and where to run and position himself under different circumstances. Whereas other players in vfl are more raw and more likely to have a team crippling critical error ridden match at this stage.

The Frawley turnover was one of my game highlights. I wonder if he'll jump ship again.

How has Hunt been in the vfl to replace Tyson and alternate at hb with fritsch? Hunt may have shown his best over a year ago, but it's far more than Smith has shown in totality. Too big a call? I wonder if Salem will pull up ok this week wasn't he holding a cork on hammy or calf early on?

Bit of credit for Jordan Lewis. Came into the middle often off the square and became a reliable link in each chain. Wanted to see him in there in the big moments all year as i still think he has plenty of fighting spirit to give like in his hawthorn midfield years. Loved his bump on worpell. HE stepped up and contributed when needed. Hope we see him in there next week often with pig and jetts and the rest very steady down back

For all the [censored] the footy show gets from the 'cultured' bogan haters, whenever I've tuned in this year I've been entertained, despite the poor comedic efforts of fevola and Sam and his political grandstanding. It still has its 'footy community' spirit in tact and I think Eddie's enthusiasm goes a long way in building it. Whereas when Ive tuned in to front bar i just feel repelled by the repetitive jokes of mick molloy. The calls to cancel the footy show are ridiculous and have more to do with Sam's senility than anything else. Eddie was great tonight.

I think our defence has gone up a level on that round 22 match too. But yes a massive effort required and a little bit of luck our way and we can match it with them and win. I'm less impressed with their footy IQ than I am with hawthorns, so I don't think they can negate our game style and we'll have a bit of a high quality shootout again.