John Demonic

I think most peoples trade scenario's will also have pick swapping to reach two top 10 pick point value, if they dont involve an actual top 10 player like Brayshaw

I dont really see it as good news if true, aside from lolnorf meme value. NM now have 1.2m for josh Kelly offer and WCE added gaff to a team capable of dominating a grand final

i still havent gotten over Plugger to Richmond for mainstream news blunders

Taberner is better insurance as a forward for an injury to tmac or weid. He and preuss could fight over the 3rd tall/relief ruck spot. Although i think an outside runner in brad hill or mid in brayshaw is a far superior choice

Spoke to a hawk supporter that thinks B Lake is the only reason they won all premierships. The missing link. Also his forced retirement the reason why they didnt win a 4th. Just goes to show how important one recruit can be for team balance

Or adam 'double as many bounces as the nearest player in 2018' saad. Handy wingman to keep the jetta/ryan/rioli space zoned off a fortnight ago

Craig cameron is a new list manager though. He probably wont be repeating the greatest hits trades of yesteryear.

Petraccas development has been trending upwards since his first year. I Expect Traccs continued improvement and stronger physicality to offset the extra vdb grunt. Id also hope we get a kamikaze atyle small forward at some point to give us that element of perceived pressure when ball is on ground. If Preuss is fwd you probably dont want to be in his way. And Steven May might venture up the ground at times and lay some big tackles. Furthermore, VDB while a beast, does stand out due to being peak age as well. So our ageing list profile should make us more physically imposing each year. Heck, even Viney hasnt reached his peak physical presence at 24 years old.

Funny how a recruiting suggestion of Zaharakis is ridiculed last year with the label of "too soft", then when a more substantial rumour about Goody chasing Colyer pops up, everyone jumps on board.

Karl Amon or Jake Neade from port any good? Saw that they were on trade table awhile back

Who are we trading harmes for next year?

I said we CAN use it on Kelly, not that WE WILL. We can also use it on ANY ELITE STAR this year or next ie its an assett. Far out, reading comprehension.

We can use Freo 2019 first round pick when GWS match our offer for josh kelly. Think in terms of the pick as a tradeable assett ie think bigger. We still challenge for a flag next year. 2020 with Kelly, we challenge for a dynasty

You think after this [censored] show that freo, Gcs & Melb will keep their players? Not a chance for me. Freo are trying to lowball us, yes. I think theyll be asking for brisbanes pick 22 which they'll give to us with Pick 4. I think we'll demand Freos 2019 2nd round pick speculatively 24 again. So 4, 22, 24. Thats 4 & 8 in points value. I just dont think 4 and 5 will happen. Its somewhere in between.

Freo wontt accept pick 4 for Neale. Looks like theyre getting themselves and us more. Its a positive step imo. Dont panic

I recall a pie fan saying petracca wasnt worth much and looking up his stats to compare. Tracc was on the same development curve as jordan de goey until late this year minus a good goal avg. Its just that JDG has stepped up a gear this season and in finals due to his pace and ability to nail his opportunities in front of goal. Petracca otherwise is pretty elite for his age, he'll only get better. He's judged pretty harshly due to his draft number and because he's a hybrid mid/fwd which will take time to really find his niche . He's a different beast to gus and doesnt have it so easily with the gawn taps like gus does.

I dunno if thats a dig at me, but seeing a 5min reel and deciding rankine for hogan by trading up, is about as knee jerk as it gets.

Wouldve thought gcs are sick of drafting x factor players and having them leave or become flaky. Would be building the team like Roos did. A spine and inside tough nuts

You should probably track down the full ground full match footage and see his off ball behaviours before selling the farm. Highlight reels are just that.

The only realistic payback is for Goody to 'accidentally' bump into Gresham or Billings while on holiday and forge a good friendship between now and the 2019 trade period ! Richo's replacement will be met with a similar trade or psd ultimatum

I'm in a heightened state of emotional gullibility today with my dearest full forward touring other clubs facilities. Give me a break!

I'm only discussing stoners

I'd probably rate him #2 in my all time list of Johnstones at the club. A decent effort.

What's the final siren?

I thought that too, but the tone of today seemed more stand offish. I still expect them to ask for more than that. Whether it's an extra pick in the 20-30 mark I don't know. Look at the Gibbs trade. 10 & 17 for Gibbs and a 2nd and 3rd coming back. Could be something comparable.