Garbo

Feels like maybe they have just hit a wall after 3 years at the very top, Oliver clearly down for obvious reasons, trac looks like he has got to big and lost some agility, viney just getting older and has begun the slow decline. Sparrow hasn’t really taken the next step and I don’t think anb is really a legitimate answer but tries his best and is fine to fill rotations on occasion

I don’t want to sound overly dramatic because we lost tonight but do you think the window might be closed or quickly closing on this specific iteration of our team. It feels like our current ladder position 7th is probably a accurate reflection of where we sit and I can’t see that significantly changing this season. Do dees need to go hard at the trade table end of season and move on some premiership players in order to get capital to go bring in some new high end talent. Similar to what we did with Hogan leaving and May coming in at the end of 2018.

Dees sit 7th and is probably a accurate reflection of how they are going, I said it before the year we weren’t a top 4 side anymore and I think that is been born out the more the year goes on. The window on another flag with this specific list is probably over now and we need to reload and go again with some big trades end of the year. Ala how we got Steven May and Jake Lever originally

Officially an issue we are consistently getting beaten round the centre bounce now, the new game plan this year simply isn’t working

Wc will be out highest score against all year we are way off it

Playing for a top 4 spot and losing to a bottom 4 team

How long before this is an issue

If the difference between winning and loosing vs eagles is lever then we aren’t a good team to start with

Reid burning trac wish we had some speed like that

Looks like a long one eagles not going to give up easy

What expected scores won’t show is that they had us at arm length all night and just took the foot off too early and panicked at the end, once you get a lead like that it affords you all kinds of options, if we weren’t so far behind maybe Trac doesn’t go fwd full time and blues continue to build a lead. No way can anyone convince me we deserved to win that game last night based on expected scores, we were thoroughly outplayed for the for most of the first 3 qtrs. To add expected score also assumes each point could be a potential goal, what it misses is if you goal it goes back to the centre and you reset, if you miss it’s a kick out and it’s still in your half for a potential repeat entry and another scoring chance which is often what occurs.

That sort of effort is exactly why we haven’t won a final since 21, got close in the end but like the pies final last year we gave a good team to much head start . Dont think we have improved or fixed any of the issues from last year

Dees absolutely horrible for 2.5 qtrs, had no answers for there clearance game and couldn’t hold a mark to save ourself. Took a desperation move to play Trac fwd and blues to absolutely drop the bundle by defending with over a qtr to go.

Difference is we can get away with it given our defence, port don’t have that

Tmac will get touched in pace by Cameron, not sure may is the answer but he will kick another 5 like tonight if it’s tmac

And who played on him on Wednesday, he isn’t winning much of it regardless of who is on him

Our loss to lions looking more costly with every passing week, we better bring our a game the next fortnight or the top 4 will gap us

Say that next week, because if we play like that vs cats it will be over by half time and it will be the lions game all over again. All fine if we want to limp into the 8 and make up the numbers but I think most people here would expect more

What pressure, most of the turn overs are under none, make you wonder wth they are thinking out there

Because most people think you need a man mountain of a key fwd, the game is changing and a more mobile tall is the future

A key tall which we need, watch him ask for a trade to cats

Who is the bright spark that would sign off on a heavy training load if that is even a thing and who makes no changes other than what was forced going into the game when a number of players are carrying injuries.

VFL app says Laurie had 20 tackles that has got to be some kind of record

We also had Brayshaw last year and last year isn’t this year. Since Oliver has been injured we haven’t been able to play our preferred way, even Goodwin has come out to say we aren’t winning the way we would like in the 2 games prior. Trying to win from the back half is not sustainable and I can’t see that turning round unless Oliver is part of it

I think the 2 games prior were both similar, we conceded the territory battle in both and relied on sling shotting when we won it back in defensive 50, it was always a risk if a team could force a stoppage inside our d50 or mark the ball we would be punished. If we can’t start winning more territory which primarily comes down to either winning the clearance or putting enough pressure on the clearance disposal to force a turn over we will be an unreliable team this season. A lot will hinge on Oliver getting fully fit as i don’t see Sparrow or any other mids stepping up enough to fill his shoes