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We already quite slow in the middle we don’t need another one plus he can’t kick over a jam tin

I think her immediately stepping aside would at least show some accountability for what has gone on this last 18 months and would signal to Petracca and others things are been taken seriously

Hopefully Jeff whites son nominates dees but gotta think this last few week might sway him to goto Gold Coast

Think dees should focus on getting up the draft to fast track any rebuild, going to be to hard to get any player of quality with everything going on

Ah well it’s was fun while it lasted maybe we can merge with North Melbourne

If the story about him forcing a trade via the afl grievance tribunal is true we will almost certainly get screwed, what team will offer market if he can just break his contract and walk.

I think the point is no one will be winning if all the dirty laundry is made public and head will roll regardless

Does all this feel quite similar to what wc went through when Judd left them, I’m sure at the time it felt like the end of the world but I think looking back they came out ahead, if we play this smart there is no reason we can’t come out of this similarly, first off if things are beyond repair I’d be saying we will trade but we will pick to who, I’d be probably looking at north and doing a deal for larkey and there first pick, I think that could work for both clubs

I’d take just the picks, I think lynch is looking for one last bonus to whoever would bite

You basically just named McKay but with his kicking that’s a dead end we will have a 60 goal fwd and never make finals

Investing one of the rumoured reasons is a lack of training facilities, I find it amazing we don’t loose more players for that reason. We still have 0 movement on that front as well just goes in the to hard basket

Happy to stand corrected, must have missed him.

Even if he is going they have got to play the part and say he’s not to get maximum value in any trade, I noticed he wasn’t at the game on Friday whilst I saw nearly every other player who wasn’t playing, as a few others have said above I’d have more concern over tracs playing future period and while I would love him in the red and blue next year it might also be for the best if he isn’t.

Problem with any trade for Oliver is his contract is so large relative to his output this year and off-field issues, realistically if we were to trade him we would end up paying a large chunk of this contract and only be getting a marginal pick back I’d guess late first round. Unless we need to get his contract off the books for salary cab reasons like pies with Grundy and Treloar it doesn’t makes sense to trade Oliver unless we think he had no future as an afl player and just want to get out while we can at any cost

Funny on Monday several shows and news papers went with the narrative Jack was gone, then low and behold less than 24 hours later he signed to stay for an additional 3 years and all I have seen since are crickets from the same media. No apology, no I was wrong they won’t even acknowledge it happened. Shows how reliable there inside knowledge is if they didn’t even know a 3 year extension was imminent

Hope it’s not that case but if dees continue the downward trend over the next few seasons will it still look wise to have a then 33 yo still on the list for a further 2 years when we should be getting games in kids, what’s wrong with taking things one year at a time for a player of his age

Love Viney but is this the right move, he would be 35 by the end of that contact, not many make it that long let alone smallish inside mids.

At the end of day trac is a professional first and foremost and regardless of what has gone on he and the club will work to fix whatever his grievances are. The reality is he’s on a deal that sees him to the effective end of his career and is been paid extremely well for it. There is no scenario I can see where a trade is possible outside of getting a player of equal value back, ie Charlie Curnow for Trac, picks just won’t cut it in this case. This isn’t a case of a salary cap dump or player who is a free agent in 12 months or someone who is going to walk away from the game if they don’t get there way. I just can’t see how this won’t get worked out as the alternative is to hard

After all the negative stuff this last month a win like this gives you hope for the future no matter what happens now

Have we been carrying Oliver all year, we look to have so much more run without him out there

Wonder if it’s at all linked to Dan Houston coming out way

So far as I know it’s not about the injury but how it was handled by the club after going to hospital, he was sitting in the emergency department of the hospital and the club was bothering him about posting a massage to the fans rather than worrying about his personal well being

Well I can tell you for a fact he was extremely unhappy with the club after been forced to post on socials after his injury while sitting in a hospital bed that everything was ok when it clearly wasn’t. It should have been a time for family only and you had the club getting up in everything

Winter Saturday night games are the worst, with the season effectively done it’s silly to think many will turn up when there is so many other options that are more enjoyable. I’d love if dees were a club where fans turned up rain hail or shine but like we have seen even tigers and a 100k members they have had some horrible crowds to so what chance do we have. We have more options than ever for entertainment and there needs to be a compelling product if you want the fans to come.

If that happens I’m sure a future first would be sufficient if that was the consensus value, I think most in the industry don’t think dees will be contenders next year so in there mind we will be round that mark or worse