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Gary Lyon and Paul Roos both said this during the finals when Weideman was on fire.

That was pure class by Tubby.

When the midfield is flogged, every full back in the league looks poor. Rance v Cox in the PF, or perhaps more tellingly May vs Riewoldt in Round 21 10 goals 6 behinds. No full back, not even the now legendary Steven May, can hold off a genuinely good FF when their midfield is brining the ball in with ease.

Is this really fair though?? Are there any players on our list that we demand a commitment from ‘beyond his current contract’? Isn't that what contracts are for? Are there any other players coming out of contract next year that we’re making similar demands of??

The real question is, do we have enough room in the cap to employ his father as well..?

We got the player we wanted.

Or leaves you with absolutely nothing. (See Fremantle forward line 2019)

The way Mahoney talked about this trade, it seemed to certainly be linked to a hypothetical Hoan trade. Now that that has fallen through (and hopefully we won’t be returning their calls) I think this trade should go through fairly quickly. Both teams seems to be dealing on good terms.

Always a big fan of Dom. Was a shining light when we were down and out and offered us hope I’m Roos’ early days. Was often amongst our better players when the heat was on, but as other have said, sadly our midfield depth has seen him lose his spot.

"I'd love to end my career a one-club player, and I anticipate that will be the case."

They also lose a pick one when they could have had both. Their attitude is bizarre- “A bird in the hand...”

This has been on the cards since the start of trade week. If the Neale pick and 11 is the deal, then that’s more or less what I expected. If they stick to just the one pick- stuff them.

Great news! We were a much better team with AVB playing this year. The man is the kind of brute opposition defender fear.

With ‘Jesse Hogan stays’ graphic...

Still very confused by he premise of the thread... Are we saying we aren't trying to bring in a Luke Breust, Robbie Gray or Toby Greene..?

Shiel has played some excellent football, but his 2018 was very average. I've no problems with him going to Essendon as I think it'll take a lot more than Shiel to see them make the required improvement. However... we all now need to brace ourselves for another summer of the media shoving Essendon premiership articles down our throats after yet another 'trade coup'.

Has the talent to be the best player in the league. But does't want to be.

Jack Riewoldt kicked 10 goals 6 behinds against a Gold Coast defense led by Stephen May in round 21 this year. Riewoldt kicked 2 goals 2 behinds against Melbourne when lining up on Oscar in the ANZAC eve match.

Ideally Fremantle will [censored] Hogan around through trade week and make and unmake their minds about a trade or offer huge unders for him. Hopefully this puts Hogan off-side with that shoddy organisation and he clears his mind of ridiculous thoughts of leaving.

There's some options there still. They've used 1st round picks in last years draft, so that frees up next year. They'll surely trade Neale after him being so public about wanting to leave. There's a possibility of trading an early first rounder into two mid-first rounders.

Lobb is such a 'nothing' footballer. Not a key forward... Not a first ruck... Just... meh.

Except Carlton literally finished last...

I think something's gotta give. The club obviously sees the need to add a big bodied defender to the line-up if we're looking to hand over a first round pick for May. McDonald, Weideman and Hogan (with possibly a resting ruckman) is a very, very tall forward line. In regards to a pure, goal kicking forward - I'd take McDonald over Hogan. Coleman medalists very rarely win you a flag - be done 4 times since 1990. Jesse has the capability to be McGovern-like down back and, IMHO, is worth a look.

If it has taken this long for any sort of announcement from the club, Hogan or his management, it tells me that neither player, nor club is chomping at the bit for this trade to happen. They might be 'OK' with it, but there certainly isn't any urgency. - Encourage May to stay at GCS - we have nothing to trade and we will take him next year as a FA. If he can't wait, he can't wait. - Hogan to honour his contract - another year at the MFC where he gets to experience some success and watch on as Freo, without Neale, crash and burn. - Trial Jesse at CHB over the preseason and into the start of the regular season. He will add some defensive skills and versatility to his game and may provide us with a powerful, big bodied, contested marker on the back half. Weideman and McDonald can develop a partnership and prepare for the possibility of Hogan leaving. - If, after some success and another year away from home, he still wants to return, this may open up WCE as a genuine competitor for his signature. If not, then Freo will still have a very decent pick to offer as their list is in big, big trouble.

Whoever was the bright spark at Nth that decided that it would be a good idea to be so public and vocal about the their big recruiting over the last two seasons needs to be fired or reassigned to the Carlton FC social media management.