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When you’re trading for picks, 5 year minimum imho. You can’t judge a player by their output as a 20 year old. Plenty here have called for the heads of Brayshaw, Weideman, Harmes, McDonald x 2. Olivers and Hogans are the exception.

Exactly. You can only truly judge a trade 5-10 years after it’s happened. Regardless of the picks we get, it’s what we do with them that counts.

Whatever the compensation may be, it’s clear to me from Jones’ comments that Hogan is leaving. I have full trust in the club to maximise the compensation, but I hope we don’t cough-up too much for May. Any compensation pick we send to Fold Coast will hopefully net is May and KK at least.

Certainly getting most out of himself and won’t retire wondering what could have been. I wonder if he might be trialled down back next year? Doesn’t have the speed or smarts to be an AFL small forward, struggles with the pace and skills in the midfield... could he be trialled as a small defender in the mould of Neville Jetta..?

No crutches at the Brownlow...

Rate him! May + Kolo for pick 10 (should the Hogan trade eventuate)

I think Wanganeen played back pocket in 93...

Ive always rated him. He would (or should be cheap) and would happily have him taking Bugg/Kent’s spot on our list.

It's a shame that he hasn't fulfilled his early promise, but I've never been convinced that he'd be a consistent high level performer. Form and attitude have held him back, but in recent years it's been his body that's let him down. Maybe a new environment will see that luck change. We wont be getting a decent draft pick for him, 4th... maybe 3rd if we're very lucky. To tell you the truth, I would have done a straight swap for Goddard or Freeman, but they've been delisted so that's no help now. Billy Longer? Jack Lonie?

Lever was given a backline coaching/mentoring role. He was there in an official capacity.

I suppose this is the ‘real’ reason behind him being moved forward in the last third of the year...

Gawn got 3 votes.

No contact TIL January, but presumably can do a whole lot of cardio leading up to that.

I see Lewis as shadowing Bernie’s 2017-18. Lewis put together some good matches this year, but the pace in the legs has left him and the mind isn’t too far behind. Next season I see him, like Bernie this year, starting in the 1s, then moved out by the end of the season. By the looks of things, Jones may be in the same boat one year later.

JETTA. O.McDONALD. LEVER. HIBBERD. FROST SALEM. FRITSCH. VINEY . HANNAN. HOGAN. T.McDONALD . PETRACCA. SPARGO. WEIDEMAN. NEAL-BULLEN. GAWN. OLIVER. HARMES. JONES - TYSON - BRAYSHAW - VANDENBERG

Collingwood, Hawthorn, Geelong and Sydney have been able to retain genuinely good players from their previously successful sides through their rebuilds. This is a huge advantage and has seen players like Sidebottom and Pendlebury playing alongside Degoey and Grundy. We completely bottomed out of senior talent several times over the past twelve years. It is a huge advantage to start a ‘rebuild’ with quality senior players already in the line-up.

Do they need to be Aboriginal..?

So is it 'gameplan' or execution of gameplan?

Grand statements like this would carry a lot more weight if they were posted prior to a big loss. Our gameplan has been lauded for the past four rounds... where were these observations then??

Horrible, just horrible. But... this does not undo the great spirit and football we’ve seen over past four rounds. This is an education on the intensity and ferocity need to take the next step. When the dust settles, we should all be very, very excited about next year.

Am sitting in a bar in HK with one other person watching the game. He’s a West Coast supporter and he just left - presumably through boredom.

Well... far from ideal.

I see Jeremy ‘Bucks-is-going-to-make-me-the-next-Jack-Gungston’ Howe has ice on both ankles and his hamstring...

They’re playing out of their skin tonight- if they’d brought this to west coast two weeks ago they would have flogged them.

Week off strikes again..?