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Now up on the club’s Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.

I had no idea I even had this app! Thanks.

Can’t find the video on the mobile site... got a link??

Improved somewhat as the game went on, but not a great night for him. Is at his best when he hunts the ball, rather than sitting back off the play. Needs to move to a wing/on-ball to make better is of his skillset. Is coming from a long way back due to injuries, but is also being played out of position.

Never understood why he was and continues to be judged so harshly; you'd think we'd be overjoyed to have a 6'5" KPD holding down full back from his third season. I really like like him and invested in his stock early. He has the potential to become a much loved player for the MFC if he continues to develop and improve his intensity.

Not sure on the rules, but he's not on either of these AFL lists... http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-03-22/official-afl-releases-list-of-2018-free-agents http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-06/2018-free-agents-lynch-gaff-headline-monster-list

I don’t think he is an RFA, I think that’s an error in the article...

I wonder if McCartin was next on our list in the 2014 draft..? If memory serves correctly the media assumed he was, but I’ve also heard DeGoey was being looked at.

Literally what I’ve been saying since pg 1.

Can you post the quote where I said we’d be in a position to get him under our salary cap? I’ve never been of the belief that we have the money or the draft picks to get him over here...

I can give you my response now. I never once said he would leave, not once. I said it was ‘possible’ and I even underlined that word for you on page 2 of this thread. It was and still is, and forever shall be POSSIBLE that Ollie Wines could leave Port Adelaide. If they sign him- great, good for them!

Said their cap would be tight. Their cap is tight. Said it’s possible he could leave. He hasn’t re-signed. You said you never trust the football media. He still hasn’t signed. Can’t see what’s changed...

Please elaborate on your suffering???

For the most part I would suggest that it was the summer spent in the rehab group. As he’s never been considered a chance for JLT or round 1, he’s just fallen out of the write-ups. Hopefully when he strings some games together, he’ll set tongues wagging.

Carlton also had big doubts about Curnow which is why they took Harry McKay ahead of him. In fact, Curnow was the 6th key position player taken in that draft behind: Weitering Schache Francis Weideman McKay. None of those player have set the world on fire yet. Some will, some won’t. But the fact of the matter is we won’t know for a few more years yet. In addition, it’s probably worth noting who was playing full back last night for Carlton whilst Curnow played full forward. Liam Jones is a KPP who didn’t play a good match until the age of 26. Some guys burst onto the scene... some take time.

Has had significant ankle surgery twice already in his career and spent most of this pre-season in rehab. I wouldn’t be wanting to see him in the seniors for the first half of the year as, I’d rather see him developing and building confidence in the VFL. Pederson is definitely ahead of him in the pecking order at this stage at any rate. Weideman need match fitness and a run of good form. Not concerned... yet.

Would you rather he said... "I'd love to end my career a one-club player, and I anticipate that will be the case."??

Spot on. The Schwabby one always looks like it was designed by a committee and everyone’s ideas needed to be included. It was cluttered and haphazard. FWIW I think our current monogram is great. It’s simple, effective, stands out and is timeless.

Why would he have wanted his son at the MFC 2013??? He should be thanking his lucky stars that we passed on him and he has gone on to play plenty of finals football in front of huge parochial fans at a great new stadium. Maybe he could be filthy with the Bulldogs who passed on Ollie twice and have won a flag in that time.

With that express intention? No. However they will be offering him well below market value. They are banking that the talent they have brought in, at significant expense, will bring them immediate success. This success, they’d be hoping, will make players accept much less money to stay. If they are not successful this year (a flag or close to it) players will wonder why they are accepting less to stay.

You’re right! No club has ever felt the salary cap squeeze and had to let a player go as they were not able to meet his demands! It’s not as though Mumford had to leave Sydney to accommodate Franklyn? Mitchell and Lewis from Hawthorn to make room for O’Meara and Mitchell? Lobbe’s trade last year to Carlton was so they could get his contract off the books to free up some cash for the free agents. Ever wonder why GWS didn’t kick up when Treloar asked for a trade?? Because cap pressure meant they needed to lose someone. His money went to Cameron and Sheil. Famously Shane Woewodin was dumped by Melbourne to free up cap room. Bradshaw to Sydney to pay for Fevola. To retain Hird, Essendon cut Heffernan, Caracella and Blumfield in 2002. Cap pressure (and release) is part of list management. It’s why good teams always preach the virtues of getting paid ‘unders’ In exchange for success. It is entirely absurd to argue otherwise.

My 'argument' being that it's possible that they have a tight salary cap after spending 2-2.5 million of a 12 million cap to bring over 4 players from an opposition clubs... it's not a huge reach. Leaves 10 million for the remainder of the list, including Boak, Gray, Wingard, Polec, Hartlett, Westhoff, Pittard, Ebert, Powell-Pepper and Ollie Wines. Polec, Westhoff, Wines, Gray, Boak and Byrnes-Jones, Neade and Wines all out of contract this year.

Paddy Ryder was reported to have crossed over for 700K Rockliff over 650K per season Dixon over 620K per season Motlop is over 500K per season That's not exactly poo-change. But I'm not saying they have mis-managed their cap, I'm saying it is possible that they have. If they've been sensible with their contracts (like Geelong/Hawthorn) then they won't have a problem re-signing Wines. If they've got carried away, which offering huge contracts to Hamish Hartlett and Matthew Lobbe suggests they may be inclined to do, then they could find it difficult to meet Wines' realistic demands. Time will tell...