Just now, demoncat said:

Look I get it

But how are we going to improve our list without paying market rate for players who will improve us?

We’re in dire need of fresh ideas and new players - King will provide the former but I don’t know if that’s going to be enough to improve us next year if we’re rolling out with the exact same playing list

The $ isn't outrageous in the era of $2m a year players, it's more the Saints trading away pick 7 for a guy Dew lost faith in and Dimma went cold on. He's a late first round guy in terms of value I reckon.

5 minutes ago, Flagdees said:

We have the money in the bank why not match the money he’s a quality player, need to start taking more risks to bring good players through the door

I agree, I don’t think that contract offer is over the top. I'd match it and let the King vs Lyon factor sway him. Once he chooses us we're in a negotiation with the Suns.

Just now, adonski said:

The $ isn't outrageous in the era of $2m a year players, it's more the Saints trading away pick 7 for a guy Dew lost faith in and Dimma went cold on. He's a late first round guy in terms of value I reckon.

If it was last year sure, but pick 7 has every chance of pushing out to pick 10+ in a weak draft

I’d make that deal every day of the week

6 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

How are the Saints finding all this money in their cap space?

for the most part i presume they have players under contract til end of 2027 and not beyond

easy to shift the money around to cover off back- and front-ended deals

1 minute ago, old55 said:

I agree, I don’t think that contract offer is over the top. I'd match it and let the King vs Lyon factor sway him. Once he chooses us we're in a negotiation with the Suns.

Except we don’t have pick 7, and I’m not sure a pick of that order is warranted anyway.

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Except we don’t have pick 7, and I’m not sure a pick of that order is warranted anyway.

We would be able to get a deal done whether it involves some picks we get back for Petracca or whether we include our future first

3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Except we don’t have pick 7, and I’m not sure a pick of that order is warranted anyway.

If Flanders chooses us then we don't need to match the picks price.

Well.. there goes any hope i had for Flanders out the window.

Perryman reported to move for $990k x 6 years last year, it costs to acquire talent.

If any deal with GC involves Petracca, it would be nonsense to bring in Flanders on anything close to 900k.

Perryman reported to move for $900k x 6 years last year, it costs to acquire talent.

4 minutes ago, old55 said:

I agree, I don’t think that contract offer is over the top. I'd match it and let the King vs Lyon factor sway him. Once he chooses us we're in a negotiation with the Suns.

Suppose it depends what we have offered Flanders.

If we offered $750K and its another $150k from Saints, we offer a bit more and the Suns say we will clear you to Dees in a deal, or you stay.

Pretty sure if Tracc goes to his rumoured favoured club GC, then we would get Flanders and 6, or without Flanders 6 and 7 and maybe another player or other deals done.

You could even get Heath and Derksen done through that deal, without paying for them, they would be cheap anyway. You could even use the picks you would need for Heath and Derksen to slightly upgrade 6 and 7.

I suppose it could depend on JT believing we can get two very good kids at 6 and 7, as better than 6 and Flanders.

Imagine a deal where Tracc goes to GC and we get , 6, 7, Heath, Derksen and maybe Rosas and then slightly upgrade 6 or 7 or both. That is all very possible.

This will be an interesting trade period.

1 minute ago, old55 said:

Perryman reported to move for $900k x 6 years last year, it costs to acquire talent.

And in Perryman's case it cost $900k to not acquire talent too...!

16 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Imagine being a Jack Steele and carrying the team while they've been garbage for years only to watch Sam Flanders walk in on nearly a mil a year.

Yeah it's culture killing stuff.

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well.. there goes any hope i had for Flanders out the window.

Don't lose hope just yet Daz, if Tracc goes to GC, we are still there, if we want to be.

3 minutes ago, old55 said:

Perryman reported to move for $990k x 6 years last year, it costs to acquire talent.

Maybe at the cost of Elliot though. We are hamstrung with big contracts to players. The Saints are going all in.

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

Don't lose hope just yet Daz, if Tracc goes to GC, we are still there, if we want to be.

Need Flanders to actually nominate us though

If we don’t match or at least get near the Saints contract offer it won’t matter

I am sure we're having conversations on if we match or up the offer to him, i agree with the sentiment that you need to spend money to sign good players and perhaps this is a situation where it'd be worthwhile.

I think the Trac deal gets much harder if Flanders nominates the Saints though

1 minute ago, demoncat said:

Need Flanders to actually nominate us though

If we don’t match or at least get near the Saints contract offer it won’t matter

We have the King factor in play. There is still hope

Just now, Nietaphart said:

Maybe at the cost of Elliot though. We are hamstrung with big contracts to players. The Saints are going all in.

Yeah that's it though sometimes the market is a bit overinflated and the true cost is felt when you lose some of your soldiers due to the overpay to acquire the new talent.

I don't think Flanders is worth 900k a season but losing Tracc for only pics isn't ideal either.

2 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I think the Trac deal gets much harder if Flanders nominates the Saints though

Gives the Suns another top 10 pick to trade us tho!

2 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

I am sure we're having conversations on if we match or up the offer to him, i agree with the sentiment that you need to spend money to sign good players and perhaps this is a situation where it'd be worthwhile.

I think the Trac deal gets much harder if Flanders nominates the Saints though

In all likelihood we probably hold on to Tracc now.

I find it strange and also annoying that media don't make any effort to report on contracts $ as a % of salary cap. I genuinely have no idea what $900k annually looks like in 3 years time in comparison to where the salary cap is likely to be. As in this Flanders contract could actually be really good value depending on how the salary cap is likely to move. Or it could be really bad value. But nobody genuinly has any idea because there is next to no reporting on it.

Wow, Saints are really going all in on next season.

De Koning, Silvagni, Aleer, Ryan and Flanders.

This has the potential to blow up in their face and set them back a decade if they're not careful.

22 minutes ago, old55 said:

Perryman reported to move for $990k x 6 years last year, it costs to acquire talent.

$990k is pretty excessive for someone who averaged 15 touches, 4 marks and 2 tackles this season.

Yikes.