48 minutes ago, The Cult of Disco Turner said:

I guess I’m a bit confused what the difference is between the incident May is going to be suspended for and the incident where May got concussed himself…

In both incidents, all involved players are going for the ball, but May will be suspended for a 50/50 ball that he missed by a millisecond where both players are running for the ball, whereas nobody will be suspended for a flying knee straight to the back of May’s skull (which didn’t even result in a mark).

I love a speccy, but if they’re going to pretend to care about player safety, I do not understand how a running flying knee like that one or the one that almost killed Trac last year is currently acceptable but what May did is so vile blah blah blah.

I think De Koning marked it, looked like mark of the year from where I was sitting 😅

Lots of player, umpiring and coaching reasons we lost so many games this year. But above all we lost most games because we cannot kick straight in front of goal. This is yet another game we have had more shots on goal than the opposition. In all our losses it has been the same - more points than goals. The saints 21/7 to 7/21 was the most obvious but against the pies losing by a point kicking 10/11 to 11/6 the most costly.

Having watched t replay

1 hour ago, Random Task said:

Haynes officially sanctioned for his trip on Jefferson in the 4th quarter.

No free kick paid to Jefferson who would have been 35 metres out on a 45ish degree angle. The scores were 72 to 70 with 4 minutes to play at the time.

Jefferson would not have kicked it in any case. He has been Melbournised and can't kick 30m

Nothing against the young man but he isn't cut out for AFL

Another game by the Dees where we won expected score

Yay

75 to 64

We would be Expected score Premiers by now.

5 hours ago, demoncat said:

I’m so confused why this keeps happening

Finals out of the question, Goodwin confirming we’re in transition and we’re not running ANYONE else through the centre bounce?

I know centre bounce isn’t everything when it comes to midfield minutes but even then it seems that the usual suspects are still the ones lining up around stoppage

Why isn’t Rivers going in there? Why can’t we give Laurie a few games with midfield minutes to see if he can make it? Langford a few CBAs to get experience

But no I’m sure everything will turn if we just keep playing the same players in there week after week

Goodwin is coaching just to protect his job.

19 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Goodwin is coaching just to protect his job.

Well he's failing that as well

2 hours ago, The Cult of Disco Turner said:

I guess I’m a bit confused what the difference is between the incident May is going to be suspended for and the incident where May got concussed himself…

In both incidents, all involved players are going for the ball, but May will be suspended for a 50/50 ball that he missed by a millisecond where both players are running for the ball, whereas nobody will be suspended for a flying knee straight to the back of May’s skull (which didn’t even result in a mark).

I love a speccy, but if they’re going to pretend to care about player safety, I do not understand how a running flying knee like that one or the one that almost killed Trac last year is currently acceptable but what May did is so vile blah blah blah.

We need to get seriously ruthless with our legal counsel

For example bringing that exact argument

Get biomechanic experts to talk about timing

I don’t care what it takes

We are not a serious club otherwise

Look what Collingwood did with Gus. They victim blamed him and got that [censored] off

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

Having watched t replay

Jefferson would not have kicked it in any case. He has been Melbournised and can't kick 30m

Nothing against the young man but he isn't cut out for AFL

He kicked one a minute earlier

3 hours ago, stinga said:

But above all we lost most games because we cannot kick straight in front of goal.

"Their game's in pretty good order but they can't score and efficiency continues to be their biggest issue."

Kane Cornes on the Dees

15 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Again last night we only used four players at centre bounce (outside the rucks) - Pickett, Trac, Oliver, Viney.

Since quarter time against Gold Coast it feels like we’ve completely abandoned our bye week plan to change it up and instead have doubled down by adding absolutely no one new into the mix.

I assume part of the strategy is the waning late-season fitness of Langford, Lindsay and Windsor, but zero centre bounces, each week, plus no Rivers, plus not bringing in Laurie or Woewodin or Culley or anyone else new just to try, is to me not the right strategy.

Going all in on the same four each week is how we ended up in this hole.

5 hours ago, ijustwannaseeaflag said:

I haven't much either, lately. Over rated

Same as most of the playing list at MFC

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Another game by the Dees where we won expected score

Yay

75 to 64

We would be Expected score Premiers by now.

Just on this… Surely we’d have to be expected scores ladder leaders???

13 minutes ago, bing181 said:

"Their game's in pretty good order but they can't score and efficiency continues to be their biggest issue."

Kane Cornes on the Dees

Which part of our game is in good order? Not being able to score is generally considered a pretty big issue in pro sports.

35 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Just on this… Surely we’d have to be expected scores ladder leaders???

Nope, but as the GOAT @WheeloRatings tells us, we are far and away the league’s worst side at losing games despite winning on expected score:

We’re -2.8 wins compared to what expected score ought to have delivered. Only Carlton and WC (both -1.6) and Sydney (-1.0) are at -1 win or worse. Indeed, us and those three clubs aside, everyone sits between -1 to +1 except GWS who is a ridiculous +3.7.

@WheeloRatings do you have the basic W-L based on xScore (ie just a ladder giving each win to the higher xScore)?

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Nope, but as the GOAT @WheeloRatings tells us, we are far and away the league’s worst side at losing games despite winning on expected score:

We’re -2.8 wins compared to what expected score ought to have delivered. Only Carlton and WC (both -1.6) and Sydney (-1.0) are at -1 win or worse. Indeed, us and those three clubs aside, everyone sits between -1 to +1 except GWS who is a ridiculous +3.7.

@WheeloRatings do you have the basic W-L based on xScore (ie just a ladder giving each win to the higher xScore)?

-2.8 is diabolical

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

Nope, but as the GOAT @WheeloRatings tells us, we are far and away the league’s worst side at losing games despite winning on expected score:

We’re -2.8 wins compared to what expected score ought to have delivered. Only Carlton and WC (both -1.6) and Sydney (-1.0) are at -1 win or worse. Indeed, us and those three clubs aside, everyone sits between -1 to +1 except GWS who is a ridiculous +3.7.

@WheeloRatings do you have the basic W-L based on xScore (ie just a ladder giving each win to the higher xScore)?

I think this is what I meant but I didn’t say it correctly! So we lose the most games that we should’ve won on expected scores?