1 hour ago, Deez21 said:

Plenty of whispers and loose lips in the room last night

all parties desperate for clarry to go

Hopefully there's a suitor then

1 hour ago, joeboy said:

And in the space of one game the mood has turned. Clarry to stay and Trac to depart

Possibly the disparity is more aligned to expectations rather than preferences..

We'll find out soon enough.

13 hours ago, BDA said:

Clarry has had a promising end to the season. I reckon he’s a hold for next year.

I don’t know where Trac is at. I don’t think he knows either.

I agree, Clarry looks invested, Trac looks like footballs not enough anymore

34 minutes ago, Greg Schneider said:

Hopefully there's a suitor then

i know i jump all over the shop, but if Clarry is the nexus of all the disharmony and fractures within the playing group, then fair enough. But onfield it doesnt appear this way.

1 hour ago, Deez21 said:

Plenty of whispers and loose lips in the room last night

all parties desperate for clarry to go

Please elaborate.

1 hour ago, Deez21 said:

Plenty of whispers and loose lips in the room last night

all parties desperate for clarry to go

Either elaborate or don’t post. So sick of these smirky know the inside story but won’t say it posts

As my username suggests, I would be very unhappy to see Clarry go. He has been working his way back into form and all the posters who say, let him go: I hope they are happy when they watch him next year in the top three of the AFLCA award. I just pray that it is with us.

Lot of criticism of Tracc too. Oddly enough, McRae in his presser was pretty clear that he thought Tracc (and Gawn) played very well. He might know.

1 hour ago, Ditcha said:

If Nathan Buckley is coach next year I predict that Trac will have a big season, because Nathan Buckley was Trac's childhood hero.

no he wasn't, pendlebury was

54 minutes ago, deegirl said:

Either elaborate or don’t post. So sick of these smirky know the inside story but won’t say it posts

What is not clear about it?

1 hour ago, GS_1905 said:

i know i jump all over the shop, but if Clarry is the nexus of all the disharmony and fractures within the playing group, then fair enough. But onfield it doesnt appear this way.

From Melbourne’s perspective it’s very clear. He’s one of the best paid Players in the league yet playing at round 200th best according to rankings

He doesn’t suit the way the game is heading and for the money we’re paying him we can replace him a lot easier (Rivers already showed what a gun he is there last night) and we’re still stuck with Viney for the inside bull role

So if we can move him on and get that salary off our books we could solve problems elsewhere

Clarry loves the club, just needs a fresh start

I doubt we’ll find a suitor to take on his sort of cash so hopefully the new coach can turn him around if not

1 minute ago, Deez21 said:

and we’re still stuck with Viney for the inside bull role

i reckon I'd prefer to keep clarry for this role and let Jack explore his options

dreadful list mgt giving jack 4 more years last year

8 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

From Melbourne’s perspective it’s very clear. He’s one of the best paid Players in the league yet playing at round 200th best according to rankings

His game last night has been building. I suggest that was his biggest impact for 2025 in a hot game played in a way that future footy likely is. The question should be if he played like that next year would you be happy to pay him the $$$. It needs to be considered how much are you really saving if we move him on as well as what is the potential cultural impact is he stays or goes. Based on last night unless he wants out or he is culturally an issue I would be backing him in. I would much prefer us to move on Trac for the return and less likelihood of his impact moving forward or for us to have some hard truth conversations with VIney and Lever who the game has gone passed.

Edited August 23Aug 23 by Lil_red_fire_engine

24 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

What is not clear about it?

Which room? Which parties? What were these whispers? Context

A few bobs each way in here lol

58 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

His game last night has been building. I suggest that was his biggest impact for 2025 in a hot game played in a way that future footy likely is. The question should be if he played like that next year would you be happy to pay him the $$$. It needs to be considered how much are you really saving if we move him on as well as what is the potential cultural impact is he stays or goes. Based on last night unless he wants out or he is culturally an issue I would be backing him in. I would much prefer us to move on Trac for the return and less likelihood of his impact moving forward or for us to have some hard truth conversations with VIney and Lever who the game has gone passed.

This devaluing of JV mystifies me. Yes, he is a poor kick. BUT - and it is a big but - he is a tackle monster; he keeps his opponents honest (euphemism for nervous) and is a true heart and souler. He never gives up. His endeavour is inspirational.

9 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

This devaluing of JV mystifies me. Yes, he is a poor kick. BUT - and it is a big but - he is a tackle monster; he keeps his opponents honest (euphemism for nervous) and is a true heart and souler. He never gives up. His endeavour is inspirational.

I remember a few years ago probably the same people wanted Tmac and Milkshake gone. Yes both are very close to the end but they have held the backline and forwarding together this year. Viney is going nowhere.

Edited August 23Aug 23 by old dee

The Hawks have the Blues 1st rounder from a trade last year.

I wonder if they start offering that plus??around?

All will be revealed when our new coach is appointed. Until then this is just the ramblerings of Demon fanatics who like me have no idea what is actualy happening.

2 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

no he wasn't, pendlebury was

The idea that someone will have a good season because their coach was their childhood hero is laughable. The players loved Goody and yet they struggled for consistency for 2 years. It means little.

1 hour ago, deegirl said:

Which room? Which parties? What were these whispers? Context

Parties usually involves club and player

1 minute ago, Deez21 said:

Parties usually involves club and player

Either post something you’re willing to back or stop with the allusions

1 hour ago, Ollie fan said:

This devaluing of JV mystifies me. Yes, he is a poor kick. BUT - and it is a big but - he is a tackle monster; he keeps his opponents honest (euphemism for nervous) and is a true heart and souler. He never gives up. His endeavour is inspirational.

So in summary he tries hard. Unfortunately the game has gone passed him having a consistent positive impact in the middle of the ground. For all his hard work he is the break in alot of our offensive plays and he gets lost in defensive transition. He needs to be retooled as a pressure half forward who comes up to the stoppage and takes an occasional CBA. He also should not be guaranteed a game going into 2026.

Edited August 23Aug 23 by Lil_red_fire_engine

9 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

So in summary he tries hard. Unfortunately the game has gone passed him having a consistent positive impact in the middle of the ground. For all his hard work he is the break in alot of our offensive plays and he gets lost in defensive transition. He needs to be retooled as a pressure half forward who comes up to the stoppage and takes an occasional CBA. He also should not be guaranteed a game going into 2026.

No coincidence our midfield looked at its absolute best against the likes of Brisbane and Sydney when Viney wasn't playing.

He's not in my best 22 next year and he should be depth at best unless he can reinvent himself as a small forward but even then as a slow small, hed get exposed big time on speed on the turnover.

1 hour ago, deegirl said:

Either post something you’re willing to back or stop with the allusions

He thinks he’s a very important man knowing the inside whisperers, the same whisperers that have stuffed the club with rumours and innuendos being leaked to the media

1 hour ago, deegirl said:

Either post something you’re willing to back or stop with the allusions

Again - what isn’t clear?

Read my posts

Oliver and Melbourne both want him to leave

Also hearing Richmond very keen on McVee