6 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Keep the salary cap clean and take less in picks. That's $2m of cap space in total.

We have to spend it so it shoudnt matter

What matters is improving our list. If not immediately then quality players that will contribute reasonably quickly like Windsor, Langford and Lindsay

33 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hope he loves it there and GC love him.

I'd rather a fair trade than CP5 stay at this point.

20 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

The idea of Trac joining the Suns is hilarious

Playing in front of 10K crowds

On a HF flank as he can’t break into their midfield

Shh they have got picks

35 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Geez TM must be tracking him on flight radar . I wonder if Trac gave his booking ref.

48 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

There's about 200kms distance between Gold Coast and Noosa. It's about the same distance from Melbourne to Colac. Where would you rather be?

Or you can 🚁

3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

It can be faster than you think if we draft well. But we just need to be patient, because it is a bit of a lottery.

This means keeping cap space, gettting Oliver back to his best, recruiting players than can play on the periphery early in their careers and then hopefully moving inside mid later on.

You have said a lot that we ought to “keep cap space”, and that because of Pickett and Oliver we don’t have much to work with.

What do you suggest is the reason we need to “keep” the space? We have to pay 95% of it, won’t we?

And with the higher cap, I don’t think clubs are now restricted to only two large contracts.

Greg Swann made a significant point today. Talking about players signing long term contracts and then wanting to leave.

Have the lawyers failed our Club. surely a seven year contract should have a clause in it saying you only get paid the yearly amount if you stay with the Club. Otherwise the contact is a burden.

6 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

1 There is no Langford in this draft in the range we will be picking (or at all).

2 The draft is not efficent. Geelong have had no top 5 picks in 25 years. They are perpetually good because they recruit well with lower picks and manage their salary cap ruthlessly.

Every year we hear about the top draftees and how good they are but there are always busts. It is hard to know how players will transition from U18 to VFL.

Once Petracca goes we need to be patient and build slowly. This means doing what St Kilda have been doing with their salary cap and drafting better like Geelong and Hawthorn.

A top 6 pick in a poor draft is not worth $2m in cap space. (Just because you cannot see the salary cap does not mean it is not important.)

Geelong are currently good because there 3 best players this season where all traded in.

21 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Geez TM must be tracking him on flight radar . I wonder if Trac gave his booking ref.

Spotted at Melb airport leaving for the GC by a friend of mine 😅

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1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

any chance Trac and 23 could get 6 and 7 back from the Suns?

maybe we have to add little pieces to it, but 2 more top 10 prospects into our young list would be exciting!

Just now, Ted Lasso said:

any chance Trac and 23 could get 6 and 7 back from the Suns?

maybe we have to add little pieces to it, but 2 more top 10 prospects into our young list would be exciting!

Think they would prefer to have an early pick still for their academy selections.

5 minutes ago, 48 Year Now said:

Greg Swann made a significant point today. Talking about players signing long term contracts and then wanting to leave.

Have the lawyers failed our Club. surely a seven year contract should have a clause in it saying you only get paid the yearly amount if you stay with the Club. Otherwise the contact is a burden.

I think it's pretty clear contracts don't actually mean anything anymore. I didn't get too excited when we signed Kozzy for exactly that reason. It seems the "front-end" value of these deals now is the PR and marketing sugar hit from the announcement with the realistic viability of the contract being seen through very much a "tomorrow problem".

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Pick 6 or 7 not enough on its own, would need at least another late first rounder I’d think

We've already stated a player must be part of the deal.

If we can't convince Flanders to choose us over saints with the King connection and the apparent "ease" at which the deal should be completed, seriously, how bad are we travelling?

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Think they would prefer to have an early pick still for their academy selections.

I think you're right, i wonder if 23, the Spargo compensation and maybe later selections can get us closer points wise.

I know the MFC would like the optics of the 2 top 10 picks thing, that's easier to sell to the members and sponsors than pick 15 or whatever the Crom have.

1 minute ago, Mouseymoo said:

We've already stated a player must be part of the deal.

If we can't convince Flanders to choose us over saints with the King connection and the apparent "ease" at which the deal should be completed, seriously, how bad are we travelling?

Pretty bad apparently. Cornes and King both said on Monday Flanders should chose Saints over us. Kane's exact reasoning was "new coach, best player wants to leave, McVee wants to leave, they're a basket case. And he won't have to do the drive to that awful training facility which I'm hearing more and more is a very big issue".

I'd have though that we become more attractive to Flanders with Trac leaving, more opportunities in the middle.

The only use of getting a few relative 'prime' picks would be to use them to go buy a player.

We need players.... some good ones.

Potential trade deals so far are way unders!!! We need a very good player PLUS a round 1 draft pick, which is under pick 14.

Petracca has 4 more years under contract.

2nd in MFC 2025 best and fairest, polled 16 votes in this years Brownlow, he’s a 4-time All-Australian, 2xMFC best and fairest, a premiership player and won Norm Smith Medal.

1 hour ago, Roger Mellie said:

There's about 200kms distance between Gold Coast and Noosa. It's about the same distance from Melbourne to Colac. Where would you rather be?

With 4x the traffic. If he's going to go to gc thinking he can just pop up to Noosa thats hilarious. Takes 30 minutes to get Carrara to Southport most days

Edited October 1Oct 1 by Bates Mate

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

The only use of getting a few relative 'prime' picks would be to use them to go buy a player.

We need players.... some good ones.

Yeah IMO we've got a base of young players that we can work with so as not to need to be hitting this draft that hard. If Windsor, Langford, Lindsay, JVR, Bowey, Turner, Rivers & Pickett isn't enough to build a team around then I don't know what is. Would've been nice to keep McVee in there but hey, we developed him from an unknown rookie so we can do that again. Our worry is going to be managing the exit of our 30+ crew so I'd agree picks should be used over the next 2 years for trading not drafting.

Just on the Noosa thing. That he holidays up there is more indicative that he enjoys the surf and sunshine that southern Queensland offers. Not that he'd plan the remainder of his footy career around driving up and down the highway to get to his holiday house.

1 hour ago, Brownie said:

Those roads between gold coast and Noosa are an absolute shambles.

Average commute would be closer to 4 hours unless you travelled at night.

Anyways, they can get to Byron in 90 mins. That would suit them. Just named number 1 [censored] town in Australia

I’ll be sure to say hi to him as I’m doing Lighthouse runs and Bayleaf coffee

Geez, really racking up the frequent flyer points is CP5, I'd hope that Melbourne's hierarchy are wining and dining contracted players aswell, or true to form we will end up with draft picks that will in turn leave us after 1 year, they can keep there draft picks, we had how many first rounders in the last 2 years? And still no list improvement, good kids thrive in a good environment, im gona be absolutely [censored] off if there is not a DECENT player coming our way for trac. Humphrey or King from GC or Rachelle, Soligo, or Fogarty from Adelaide is about all I'm looking at, still harping on making this work for Luke Jackson somehow though, where there's smoke there's fire, surely the door is slightly ajar for him in all this.