come out Bruce baggers wherever you are ?

[45HG 1,539]

wow, so one good game that still contained the same elements for what he has been criticized for is supposed to make those who question bruce do an about face? i admit it was a good game, and needless to say i'm happy that he played well. but i saw none of the same courage displayed by green, or attack offered by bell or leadership offered by neitz and mclean. his kicking was still iffy as was his decision making, and he certainly didn't increase his hardness at the ball.

good on him for playing well, but don't go on some outrageous assault on people who doubt bruce because of one good game that does not dispell the doubts placed upon him.

[dee-luded 2,958]

I hope you and Robert Walls are very happy together

I hope you and Brucey Baby are very happy together,

[Deano74 156]

So any Bruce baggers still want to sink the boots in? I wish the detractors could tell me what the difference between yeterdays performance and work he has done all year?

He was and has been very good, sure he doesn't always hit targets by foot but watch the second quarter again when it counted.

He was BOG in my opinion - Green was great but did collect many possesions as the loose man.

So hit us with your comments of trading etc.

Great as usual

Has any club traded a Best and Fairest winner the following year, I strongly doubt it. Because the way he is playing if he continues he is a shoe in for the B & F.

What player doesnt do clangers ? Besides Judd.

[Yze_Magic 3]

no thinking needed with tht decision mate

I know, I just thought it was funny how you stated the obvious

[Madness 44]

Great as usual

Has any club traded a Best and Fairest winner the following year, I strongly doubt it. Because the way he is playing if he continues he is a shoe in for the B & F.

What player doesnt do clangers ? Besides Judd.

And how do you know he won't request a trade? If he requests a trade they have no choice.

Oh and I'd trade anyone on our list for Judd except Brocky.

[Guest redandbluethruandthru]

Have any premiership captains ever been traded or asked to be traded? i think not, i may be wrong but seriously i;d doubt it. He is holding out for more cash for the Eagles pure and simple. And they;ll give it to him too because when cousins comes back they have an excellent case for dropping cousins salary. Oh yeah Kerr may be in prison next year too cause he is a tool so maybe even more cash for judd

[45HG 1,539]

Ronald Dale Barassi

[Guest redandbluethruandthru]

did not realise that thanks 45hotgod.

[Kit Walker 207]

Pretty sure Wayne Carey was too

Neitz, McLean, Rivers probably the only untradeables on Melbourne's list. Probably some of the other young guys too (Jones, Bate, Dunn, Pettard, Frawley, etc) because you're not likely to get full value for them. If you're serious about trading at the top end or get a ridiculously good offer you've got to consider it.

[Guest redandbluethruandthru]

i meant immediately after a g/f win or within a couple of years, Carey obviously was a different set of circumstances. "Little Carey" wasn't a team player. I should have been a bit more specific sorry

[Bobby McKenzie 2,194]

wow, so one good game that still contained the same elements for what he has been criticized for is supposed to make those who question bruce do an about face? i admit it was a good game, and needless to say i'm happy that he played well. but i saw none of the same courage displayed by green, or attack offered by bell or leadership offered by neitz and mclean. his kicking was still iffy as was his decision making, and he certainly didn't increase his hardness at the ball.

good on him for playing well, but don't go on some outrageous assault on people who doubt bruce because of one good game that does not dispell the doubts placed upon him.

ONE good game this season? Very funny! Have you been overseas? Bruce always plays well. Have a look at his stats for ALL games. He's a GREAT player whether you choose to admit it or not. You don't have to be a thug to be an elite footballer. You seem fixed on the idea that every player must be HARD at the ball. A good team has a combination of both inside and outside players.

[Jonesy is the next captain 0]

I hope you and Brucey Baby are very happy together,

I wish had to give up that dream after he got engaged - what a shame!

[Jonesy is the next captain 0]

I think you need to stop giving so much credit to journalists and media commentators.

After all, weren't they the ones who wrote we should trade Bruce just 24 hours before the game? weren't they the ones calling our club '[censored] weak' before the opening bounce? weren't they the ones who didn't actually know who Daniel Bell was until the game was over (and failed to give him votes!!!)?

Bruce's kicking is on the wrong side of ordinary, his decision making is about the same. That is not to say that he is not a great player, and a consistent one at that. But to say you wouldn't trade him for a Brownlow winner, B&F winner and premiership captain who is also 5 years his junior, is madness.

Also, you have no idea whether he is or isn't coming to Victoria. Your guess is as good as mine.

No they werent the ones- there was one tool namely Robert Walls who said that but he was forced to eat humble pie and give him best on ground. Well I actually listened to every station give the votes that called the game and Bell was in every one of them so get ur facts straight Jaded.

Bruce is all Melbourne to trade him would be a bloody disgrace to the supporters calling for it and for the club doing it.

[drdrake 3,047]

Bruce is just a good honest player nothing more. Trav gets the heavy tag each week because when Trav gets the ball he hurts the oppostion, Bruce's disposal is poor and IMO other teams let him run free because with most of his possesions he doesn't hurt you and will turn the ball over regularly. Bruce runs hard and reads the footy well, just wish he had relaible disposal and he would jump into the level above just being a good player.

[BrownlowBruce 1]

Bruce is just a good honest player nothing more. Trav gets the heavy tag each week because when Trav gets the ball he hurts the oppostion, Bruce's disposal is poor and IMO other teams let him run free because with most of his possesions he doesn't hurt you and will turn the ball over regularly. Bruce runs hard and reads the footy well, just wish he had relaible disposal and he would jump into the level above just being a good player.

Watch the second quarter....

bruce could have kicked 2 of 8 goals.... but instead goal assist to davey....

and he had atleast 1-2 other goal assists ... and was involved in atleast 4-8 of those second quarter goals....

im prettty sure if neitzs didnt do a crappy snap when he had plenty of time... he coulda had another goal asssist....

he had somthin like 3 or 4 clearances but about 9 first possesisons .... now first possesions arent clearances but i would classify them as clearance assists

now if thats not hurting the opposition i dont know wat is?

[drdrake 3,047]

Tell my the last time the opposition placed a heavy tag on Bruce. Thats one quarter out of 40 this season, he needs to do that every week or at least every couple.

[BrownlowBruce 1]

Tell my the last time the opposition placed a heavy tag on Bruce. Thats one quarter out of 40 this season, he needs to do that every week or at least every couple.

u wouldnt notice a tag on bruce...

he has one of the best aerobic capacitys in the afl....

the only fact here is .... u cant give me facts and i can give them to u....

soo unless u come up with somthin im not with u

[drdrake 3,047]

What facts that he has had one good quarter out of 40, jez he must be a superstar then. Taggers are taggers because they have limited skill but high aerobic capacity, look at ours Godfrey, most teams have one and most of the time they go to Trav or Davey. Don't get me wrong as I said Bruce is a good player he just isn't a star or great player.

[BrownlowBruce 1]

What facts that he has had one good quarter out of 40, jez he must be a superstar then. Taggers are taggers because they have limited skill but high aerobic capacity, look at ours Godfrey, most teams have one and most of the time they go to Trav or Davey. Don't get me wrong as I said Bruce is a good player he just isn't a star our great player.

FAR OUT... one good quarter!, i love ur hyperbole! awesome...

he leads us is disposals.... now im not going to say THIS automatically gets him our best player, but it does go close....

he plays defense , centre and foward... he can kick goals ... he tackles and chases... he leads up the ground ALOT, watch the sydney game and a few others from this year... he is the only player when we were down that lead up the field and presented....

As for this tagger crap..little relevance who cares if davey ??? or johnstone get a tagger... good for us.. id take that... bruce IMO is the best player in our team...

according to u a player that doesnt get tagged ?

can not be a star then ?

u might not think so...and u have little facts to give me that suggest otherwise...

[drdrake 3,047]

The tag shows the level of respect the opposition has for you, it shows that they believe if the can stop that certain player it will best help them to win. Bruce is a hardworker, but lacks the polish of the top midfielders in the comp.

[BrownlowBruce 1]

The tag shows the level of respect the opposition has for you, it shows that they believe if the can stop that certain player it will best help them to win. Bruce is a hardworker, but lacks the polish of the top midfielders in the comp.

opinion...plenty

facts none

[Guest redandbluethruandthru]

when bruce wins club best and fairest this year we will see the truth.

[Nicho 1]

I never bagged out Bruce as he is one of the most important players in our team and our classiest player however i did say he was overated by Demon supporters. I stand by this

I said it before and will say it again there are times when Bruce can be harder at the ball and lay more tackels but he is a bit soft..

Also when Melbourne haven't been going to well Brucey can generally been seen gathering cheap possesions out on the wings.

ill say it again a quality player very important to us but could be harder... Therfor he isnt this absolute champion that alot of people seem to think!!!

When will people realise that Bate is basically in our top 5 players along with Chook, Neitz, Bruce and Rivers.

[BrownlowBruce 1]

I never bagged out Bruce as he is one of the most important players in our team and our classiest player however i did say he was overated by Demon supporters. I stand by this

I said it before and will say it again there are times when Bruce can be harder at the ball and lay more tackels but he is a bit soft..

Also when Melbourne haven't been going to well Brucey can generally been seen gathering cheap possesions out on the wings.

ill say it again a quality player very important to us but could be harder... Therfor he isnt this absolute champion that alot of people seem to think!!!

When will people realise that Bate is basically in our top 5 players along with Chook, Neitz, Bruce and Rivers.

WAT u need to realise bate and chook have done jack [censored] in their short time in the game....

if anyone is overrated at the club it is BOTH players u have mentioned! Brock has played great at times.... but he has been injury plagued and has only played 50! games.

i do not dislike either of these 2 players but by saying bate is in our top 5 shows how much u have overrated him as a player.

Cheap possesions ey.... if the possesions are soo cheap why doesnt the opposition do somthin about it..... ?

[mordja 187]

Bruce was third best behind Green and Bell. Regardless, he is an amazing player and incredibly fit.

But damn it all I would give Bruce and Y_M's right nut for Judd.

Anyone who wouldnt give up one our our middle age/older players for Judd is the exact reason we will protract our mediocraty and wont win a flag in the near term.

Ideally I would keep bruce and green, but should the option come, you know deep in your heart if Judd or Pavlich were on the trade table, there would be very few players not considered as bait.