To the AFL ‘Browbeating’ Media — It’s time to fight back!

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

Morning Demonlanders,

I don’t know about you, but I’ve had an absolute GUTFUL of the AFL Media continually beating up on our club. It’s been happening for eons, to the point where it’s now becoming clear the agenda to undermine our club is very real. If I was to list a reasonable sample of their [censored], it’d simply take up too much space but whether it is on the airwaves, X or websites it’s seemingly unified in its entity and goal of picking on a club who’s going through enough. 
 

Unfortunately— Most footy pundits take the word of these muppets & do little research of their own or have the ability to seek out people whom may know differently. Our club has definitely done some things to create questions, but this Oliver and Kos latest is just absolutely media driven tripe!!! And even if it does push through to become reality — The fact our club is always the target isn’t an accident, it’s an agenda & the fight we rarely fight or push back is 💯 a factor.

Why don’t you think the Pies are never targeted? Because IMAGINE the backlash if they copped even 10% of what MFC have? Answer is — it just wouldn’t happen such is the fear of the backlash.

Therefore, I am proposing we build a small but fierce coalition, to commit to fighting back to namely trade radio, SEN in general for perpetrating this grovel and make them fear again putting our club in the crosshairs for likes. Adam Cooney today is the last straw. Yes, it is bottom barrel journalism — or entertainment more like, but it serves them well as it gets clicks, ears and eyeballs for the copious amount of articles they then produce off the back of it. 

So, through this thread — anyone who stays ‘count me in’ will be called upon to get on the phone, smash the text or X feed & begin to brutalise to these peasants and call them out! I for one am willing to commit time each day to ensuring I do my part, but we cannot simply sit here and take it anymore. Anytime a post, article or talkback piece comes to fruition, we need to hit them with some sort of response that at the very least shows we are not going to let them continue this targeted harassment of our club.

All to would take is 15-20 like-minded Demonlanders to fully commit to this & we’d at least make them realise their carefully constructed half-truths and manipulation makes it appear as though there are leaks when in reality this garbage gets brought forth from weak secondary sources and other clubs whom are happy to release info knowing it will appear as though it’s from the Dees end.

But none of us can fight alone, it has to be strategic and have a punchline that pierces the media-filth armour. So anyone who’s fed up and wants to do something about it, let me know.

The commitment has to be real and involve multiple posts, texts, calls & comments on the various forums in order to penetrate in any meaningful manner, but I know there is plenty of vitriolic ppl here whom are very very capable of making a rancour-infused stand to fight back and not be the taciturn mopes they believe we are.

Turning off and ignoring it just is not the answer anymore, it has to be a visible, tangible pushback to do anything at all even if it serves only to be therapeutic to our footy souls.

I’m certainly ready to fight like hell and defend our club — this is beyond a joke!!!

 

Edited October 2 by Tolstoys Nudge
Tone

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,294]

I couldn't care less about the media. 

We need to sort out the mess we are in that we have created.

If we didn't leak like a sieve the media would have nothing to talk about.

[Return to Glory 8,448]

58 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Morning Demonlanders,

I don’t know about you, but I’ve had an absolute GUTFUL of the AFL Media continually beating up on our club. It’s been happening for eons, to the point where it’s now becoming clear the agenda to undermine our club is very real. If I was to list a reasonable sample of their [censored], it’d simply take up too much space but whether it is on the airwaves, X or websites it’s seemingly unified in its entity and goal of picking on a club who’s going through enough. 
 

Unfortunately— Most footy pundits take the word of these muppets & do little research of their own or have the ability to seek out people whom may know differently. Our club has definitely done some things to create questions, but this Oliver and Kos latest is just absolutely media driven tripe!!! And even if it does push through to become reality — The fact our club is always the target isn’t an accident, it’s an agenda & the fight we rarely fight or push back is 💯 a factor.

Why don’t you think the Pies are never targeted? Because IMAGINE the backlash if they copped even 10% of what MFC have? Answer is — it just wouldn’t happen such is the fear of the backlash.

Therefore, I am proposing we build a small but fierce coalition, to commit to fighting back to namely trade radio, SEN in general for perpetrating this grovel and make them fear again putting our club in the crosshairs for likes. Adam Cooney today is the last straw. Yes, it is bottom barrel journalism — or entertainment more like, but it serves them well as it gets clicks, ears and eyeballs for the copious amount of articles they then produce off the back of it. 

So, through this thread — anyone who stays ‘count me in’ will be called upon to get on the phone, smash the text or X feed & begin to brutalise to these peasants and call them out! I for one am willing to commit time each day to ensuring I do my part, but we cannot simply sit here and take it anymore. Anytime a post, article or talkback piece comes to fruition, we need to hit them with some sort of response that at the very least shows we are not going to let them continue this targeted harassment of our club.

All to would take is 15-20 like-minded Demonlanders to fully commit to this & we’d at least make them realise their carefully constructed half-truths and manipulation makes it appear as though there are leaks when in reality this garbage gets brought forth from weak secondary sources and other clubs whom are happy to release info knowing it will appear as though it’s from the Dees end.

But none of us can fight alone, it has to be strategic and have a punchline that pierces the media-filth armour. So anyone who’s fed up and wants to do something about it, let me know.

The commitment has to be real and involve multiple posts, texts, calls & comments on the various forums in order to penetrate in any meaningful manner, but I know there is plenty of vitriolic ppl here whom are very very capable of making a rancour-infused stand to fight back and not be the taciturn mopes they believe we are.

Turning off and ignoring it just is not the answer anymore, it has to be a visible, tangible pushback to do anything at all even if it serves only to be therapeutic to our footy souls.

I’m certainly ready to fight like hell and defend our club — this is beyond a joke!!!

 

Adam Cooney gave his fiancé a burger ring as an engagement ring. There are more pressing issues than getting enraged by a quarter wit inspiring to be a half wit or a fluk wit.  

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

7 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

Adam Cooney gave his fiancé a burger ring as an engagement ring. There are more pressing issues than getting enraged by a quarter wit inspiring to be a half wit or a fluk wit.  

Agreed.. but it’s a very small fraction of the whole — my issue more goes to the Edmund, Morris, Cleary’s of the world.. Cooney’s idiotic take before the mega-trade and ergo his nonsensical mega-trade inc ridding ourselves of the coach was merely the straw that broke the camels back for me 

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

16 minutes ago, Hellaintabadplacetobe said:

I couldn't care less about the media. 

We need to sort out the mess we are in that we have created.

If we didn't leak like a sieve the media would have nothing to talk about.

That’s part of the issue — most of the leaks don’t come from the club, but the throng of external parties involved ie player mgmt, other club insiders, etc — this isn’t to do with the club not having issues, this is about how ridiculously we’ve been treated for 18mths partly because we continually just take it  

Edited October 2 by Tolstoys Nudge

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

And for the record. I support the CLUB — not the individuals within it.. be it Pert, Roffey, Richo, Trac etc so when I talk about fighting back it’s about barking up for my CLUB not anyone within it — Sitting back and letting them undermine the fabric of our club merely cus they enjoy piling on!!! It’s abhorrent and I’m not going to sit back and let my club be their whipping boy 

[Monbon 1,840]

1 hour ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Morning Demonlanders,

I don’t know about you, but I’ve had an absolute GUTFUL of the AFL Media continually beating up on our club. It’s been happening for eons, to the point where it’s now becoming clear the agenda to undermine our club is very real. If I was to list a reasonable sample of their [censored], it’d simply take up too much space but whether it is on the airwaves, X or websites it’s seemingly unified in its entity and goal of picking on a club who’s going through enough. 
 

Unfortunately— Most footy pundits take the word of these muppets & do little research of their own or have the ability to seek out people whom may know differently. Our club has definitely done some things to create questions, but this Oliver and Kos latest is just absolutely media driven tripe!!! And even if it does push through to become reality — The fact our club is always the target isn’t an accident, it’s an agenda & the fight we rarely fight or push back is 💯 a factor.

Why don’t you think the Pies are never targeted? Because IMAGINE the backlash if they copped even 10% of what MFC have? Answer is — it just wouldn’t happen such is the fear of the backlash.

Therefore, I am proposing we build a small but fierce coalition, to commit to fighting back to namely trade radio, SEN in general for perpetrating this grovel and make them fear again putting our club in the crosshairs for likes. Adam Cooney today is the last straw. Yes, it is bottom barrel journalism — or entertainment more like, but it serves them well as it gets clicks, ears and eyeballs for the copious amount of articles they then produce off the back of it. 

So, through this thread — anyone who stays ‘count me in’ will be called upon to get on the phone, smash the text or X feed & begin to brutalise to these peasants and call them out! I for one am willing to commit time each day to ensuring I do my part, but we cannot simply sit here and take it anymore. Anytime a post, article or talkback piece comes to fruition, we need to hit them with some sort of response that at the very least shows we are not going to let them continue this targeted harassment of our club.

All to would take is 15-20 like-minded Demonlanders to fully commit to this & we’d at least make them realise their carefully constructed half-truths and manipulation makes it appear as though there are leaks when in reality this garbage gets brought forth from weak secondary sources and other clubs whom are happy to release info knowing it will appear as though it’s from the Dees end.

But none of us can fight alone, it has to be strategic and have a punchline that pierces the media-filth armour. So anyone who’s fed up and wants to do something about it, let me know.

The commitment has to be real and involve multiple posts, texts, calls & comments on the various forums in order to penetrate in any meaningful manner, but I know there is plenty of vitriolic ppl here whom are very very capable of making a rancour-infused stand to fight back and not be the taciturn mopes they believe we are.

Turning off and ignoring it just is not the answer anymore, it has to be a visible, tangible pushback to do anything at all even if it serves only to be therapeutic to our footy souls.

I’m certainly ready to fight like hell and defend our club — this is beyond a joke!!!

 

Yours in Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Gogol, Chekov, Pushkin, Gorky and Turgenev.

I agree 100% with your thoughts and ambitions re the circus called The Media. In a nutshell, it simply mirrors what Western media stands for - lies, manipulation, and downright Fantasyland make-believe. I doubt that the mental midgets who delight in tormenting certain clubs and treat others on bended knees will make any difference. Even clowns and what they call in Polish, Dupas, have to eat and pay the rent stay alive by augmenting the first bit of garbage that enters their tiny minds. 

Regards.

[DeeZone 10,100]

1 hour ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Morning Demonlanders,

I don’t know about you, but I’ve had an absolute GUTFUL of the AFL Media continually beating up on our club. It’s been happening for eons, to the point where it’s now becoming clear the agenda to undermine our club is very real. If I was to list a reasonable sample of their [censored], it’d simply take up too much space but whether it is on the airwaves, X or websites it’s seemingly unified in its entity and goal of picking on a club who’s going through enough. 
 

Unfortunately— Most footy pundits take the word of these muppets & do little research of their own or have the ability to seek out people whom may know differently. Our club has definitely done some things to create questions, but this Oliver and Kos latest is just absolutely media driven tripe!!! And even if it does push through to become reality — The fact our club is always the target isn’t an accident, it’s an agenda & the fight we rarely fight or push back is 💯 a factor.

Why don’t you think the Pies are never targeted? Because IMAGINE the backlash if they copped even 10% of what MFC have? Answer is — it just wouldn’t happen such is the fear of the backlash.

Therefore, I am proposing we build a small but fierce coalition, to commit to fighting back to namely trade radio, SEN in general for perpetrating this grovel and make them fear again putting our club in the crosshairs for likes. Adam Cooney today is the last straw. Yes, it is bottom barrel journalism — or entertainment more like, but it serves them well as it gets clicks, ears and eyeballs for the copious amount of articles they then produce off the back of it. 

So, through this thread — anyone who stays ‘count me in’ will be called upon to get on the phone, smash the text or X feed & begin to brutalise to these peasants and call them out! I for one am willing to commit time each day to ensuring I do my part, but we cannot simply sit here and take it anymore. Anytime a post, article or talkback piece comes to fruition, we need to hit them with some sort of response that at the very least shows we are not going to let them continue this targeted harassment of our club.

All to would take is 15-20 like-minded Demonlanders to fully commit to this & we’d at least make them realise their carefully constructed half-truths and manipulation makes it appear as though there are leaks when in reality this garbage gets brought forth from weak secondary sources and other clubs whom are happy to release info knowing it will appear as though it’s from the Dees end.

But none of us can fight alone, it has to be strategic and have a punchline that pierces the media-filth armour. So anyone who’s fed up and wants to do something about it, let me know.

The commitment has to be real and involve multiple posts, texts, calls & comments on the various forums in order to penetrate in any meaningful manner, but I know there is plenty of vitriolic ppl here whom are very very capable of making a rancour-infused stand to fight back and not be the taciturn mopes they believe we are.

Turning off and ignoring it just is not the answer anymore, it has to be a visible, tangible pushback to do anything at all even if it serves only to be therapeutic to our footy souls.

I’m certainly ready to fight like hell and defend our club — this is beyond a joke!!!

 

I truely empathise with your concerns Tolstoys Nudge and have been trying to remain firm and supportive of the club that we love. However, I am more concerned by some of the posters on Demonland whose opinions I once held in high regard who seem to have joined forces with the enemy to help berate and Undermine Our great Club. We cannot beat the press but maybe we can dissuade our own from echoing the chorus of undermining twerps who are trying to bring us down.

[The heart beats true 18,145]

Is the media being that harsh on us really? The Tracc story was a big story, as is the Clarry story. They are just doing their job, admittedly some of them with more integrity than others, but it’s not like it wouldn’t be a huge story if De Goey or Chad Warner wanted out, or was looking around.

We aren’t doing well as a club in terms of our player management, and this is the ramifications. It’s disappointing, but to blame the media isn’t the solution. You could also argue that without them none of the issues would be publicly exposed - and therefore the problems would fester for longer.

[layzie 33,991]

You know what annoys me more than the media right now? This club.

Couldn't navigate their way out of a paper bag at the minute. 

 

 

Edited October 2 by layzie

[Cosmic Baby 35]

All gone downhill since the Queen (Roffey) left the castle. 

[Cranky Franky 2,091]

2 hours ago, layzie said:

You know what annoys me more than the media right now? This club.

Couldn't navigate their way out of a paper bag at the minute. 

 

 

Agree.

Currently lions led by donkeys.

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

The media are hyenas. Any sign of weakness and BANG. Except their favourite teams of course.

[Monbon 1,840]

4 hours ago, DeeZone said:

I truely empathise with your concerns Tolstoys Nudge and have been trying to remain firm and supportive of the club that we love. However, I am more concerned by some of the posters on Demonland whose opinions I once held in high regard who seem to have joined forces with the enemy to help berate and Undermine Our great Club. We cannot beat the press but maybe we can dissuade our own from echoing the chorus of undermining twerps who are trying to bring us down.

Alleluia to that!!!!

[dpositive 1,678]

I understand your concern but as I stated on another thread I couldnt be bothered monitoring all of the media statements.

That should be the job of the Club and the CEO. Again as I stated they should be on the front foot and control the narrative. They can and should be initiating not responding.

Get on to them you can confirm my previous advice if you like, they obviously dont read my posts.

[daisycutter 29,734]

8 hours ago, Monbon said:

Yours in Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Gogol, Chekov, Pushkin, Gorky and Turgenev.

I agree 100% with your thoughts and ambitions re the circus called The Media. In a nutshell, it simply mirrors what Western media stands for - lies, manipulation, and downright Fantasyland make-believe. I doubt that the mental midgets who delight in tormenting certain clubs and treat others on bended knees will make any difference. Even clowns and what they call in Polish, Dupas, have to eat and pay the rent stay alive by augmenting the first bit of garbage that enters their tiny minds. 

Regards.

dunno why you single out the western media, monbon.  it's all media ... east, west, south and north

truth has become an archaic concept

[Monbon 1,840]

11 hours ago, daisycutter said:

dunno why you single out the western media, monbon.  it's all media ... east, west, south and north

truth has become an archaic concept

The joke is that most Western people are Media sheep who believe only they are being told the truth. Most sheople I know have no idea they are being lied to.

 

[DeeZone 10,100]

On 03/10/2024 at 09:23, Monbon said:

The joke is that most Western people are Media sheep who believe only they are being told the truth. Most sheople I know have no idea they are being lied to.

 

So true Monbon when you are constantly harangued by elements of the press and the same stories told and retold by the same 4-5 people, even when they are shown to be untrue it wears people down to the point that rational people turn on their own club. We have all witnessed how the press have been able to divide us and turn us against the very people that helped deliver the “Holy Grail” as recently as 2021 and top 4 in 2022-23. People are putty in their hands.

Edited October 4 by DeeZone
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[Altona-demon 321]

Count me in - let's do this.

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

This is my exact point - THE MEDIA create a narrative that they KNOW is perpetuated by and is aligned to the view of player agents, they pile-on and do All they CAN to get it to reality, knowing full well what they are saying is all done in an attempt to force the MFC into a lesser trade for Clarry, with the strategic ideal of having the rumours become fact, the Pert calls etc it’s ALL an attempt to get the dees to accept a LESSER trade, and yet thankfully we haven’t!

 

And yet still Edmund gets on radio and reports we’re shooting it down when alll we EVER did in first place was talk to a few clubs to assess value when we KNEW Claz had met with cats since last year. But agents leak and leak in the hope of furthering a narrative ergo what political lobbyists do for their employers meanwhile Joe Public thinks it’s something it’s not.. Be mindful they seemingly very nearly got it done as well, but the wiser minds like TL, JT, Goody etc prevailed. 
 

when I talk about browbeating THIS is exactly what I mean — a weeks worth of hysteria that in reality was posturing form a player agent to get his player out of a 6yr contract!

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And for anyone whom disagrees that’s totally fine and expected — but 5yrs ago NONE of this would’ve hit media street and when it did they’d of been told to say mum is the word until it’s real, but now agents with multiple players at a club are so power-laden they just blast away in order to manufacture an outcome! Edmund, That peasant McClure esp, Morris — ALL of them know who’s driving this narrative and yet SAY it’s coming form sources at the club, by which they mean the PLAYER via his agent.

Melb didn’t lie, they told Clarry they’d assess trade value since he had met with clubs and that that assessment would dictate the action — market was tested and Geelong had no currency, so the agent then tried to win the Infowars to get their player their desired outcome EXACTLY what happened Trac albeit diff circumstances and desired outcomes which to me where never to leave Melb but that’s pure guesswork on that front. 
BUT that’s the current world we live in, it’s lobbying and the era of player power perception wise, but again, thank GOD almighty Melbourne didn’t cave and just throw away an ATG that’s EVERY chance of getting back to his best despite some minor pro-ported behavioural setbacks. 
 

Again all entitled to their opinion, but I can verify 💯 that Morris himself insinuated to me ALL his info in Trac saga was from his camp, NOT the club!!!

 

Edited October 4 by Tolstoys Nudge

[Wells 11 5,422]

5 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

And for anyone whom disagrees that’s totally fine and expected — but 5yrs ago NONE of this would’ve hit media street and when it did they’d of been told to say mum is the word until it’s real, but now agents with multiple players at a club are so power-laden they just blast away in order to manufacture an outcome! Edmund, That peasant McClure esp, Morris — ALL of them know who’s driving this narrative and yet SAY it’s coming form sources at the club, by which they mean the PLAYER via his agent.

Melb didn’t lie, they told Clarry they’d assess trade value since he had met with clubs and that that assessment would dictate the action — market was tested and Geelong had no currency, so the agent then tried to win the Infowars to get their player their desired outcome EXACTLY what happened Trac albeit diff circumstances and desired outcomes which to me where never to leave Melb but that’s pure guesswork on that front. 
BUT that’s the current world we live in, it’s lobbying and the era of player power perception wise, but again, thank GOD almighty Melbourne didn’t cave and just throw away an ATG that’s EVERY chance of getting back to his best despite some minor pro-ported behavioural setbacks. 
 

Again all entitled to their opinion, but I can verify 💯 that Morris himself insinuated to me ALL his info in Trac saga was from his camp, NOT the club!!!

 

Appreciate this read  TN.

[Lexinator 1,715]

On 02/10/2024 at 13:30, Monbon said:

Yours in Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Gogol, Chekov, Pushkin, Gorky and Turgenev.

I agree 100% with your thoughts and ambitions re the circus called The Media. In a nutshell, it simply mirrors what Western media stands for - lies, manipulation, and downright Fantasyland make-believe. I doubt that the mental midgets who delight in tormenting certain clubs and treat others on bended knees will make any difference. Even clowns and what they call in Polish, Dupas, have to eat and pay the rent stay alive by augmenting the first bit of garbage that enters their tiny minds. 

Regards.

Dawaj, dawaj! Right on, comrade! 

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

36 minutes ago, Altona-demon said:

Count me in - let's do this.

Well for me that idiotic trade radio is place to start — what an absolute joke SEN have become. This entire Trac/Clarry monster-story was in actual fact, what would’ve years ago been considered a non-starter. Yet now look at the hoopla it’s caused — and damage it may do to the fabric of the team. Club should’ve been more cautious for mine they were naive and stupid on both counts, but the media have shown direct mal-intent to gain clicks and push two greats from our club and its abhorrent to me in every way. 
 

Players are always fine to look after their own wicket, that’s fine — but if we listed every player who’s tried to sneak out of a long term deal it’d be a mile long and inc many of the absolute greats, 90% of which wound-up staying and ultimately seeing some sort of success. 
 

Winning fixes everything, so keys hope 25’ draw & 90% of list doing 90% of preseason helps us to do that, but obv 95% of it is down the coaching/playing group. I remain optimistic, but it’s certainly not the same optimism I had 6wks ago. We have the talent, new coaches and depth players will help, but we’ve got to get it right!
 

[Altona-demon 321]

Yeah I think there are numerous channels that are screwing us over at this point, I think we probably need to work back from the outcome we are trying to achieve with this wee militia, and then probably strategise - and probably ideally off these channels where media lackeys are most definitely lurking.