Nascent 9,345 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said: 45 for Daniel is terrible business. He’s declining. Short and slow !!! On far too many $$$ as well !!! Won't get too many arguments from me 2 Quote
Little Goffy 14,963 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 I want it because I feel really good about this draft (as always in septmember), but I also want De Koning. Future picks would be needed to make De Koning happen, I suspect. And given that we'll be wanting some 'burnables' to acquire White (touch wood) some smart future pick trading might also give us a head start on getting 2025 trade/draft organised. 1 Quote
ANG13 2,110 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 2 minutes ago, Little Goffy said: I want it because I feel really good about this draft (as always in septmember), but I also want De Koning. Future picks would be needed to make De Koning happen, I suspect. And given that we'll be wanting some 'burnables' to acquire White (touch wood) some smart future pick trading might also give us a head start on getting 2025 trade/draft organised. What De Koning are you dreaming of getting? 1 Quote
demoncat 1,723 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 Glad to hear we’re targeting another first round pick And even better that it looks like we’re doing it in a way where we retain our future first rounder I’m not against trading our future first, but it could be a valuable pick to target an out of contract player like Callaghan next year 3 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 36 minutes ago, ANG13 said: What De Koning are you dreaming of getting? Apparently Sam De Koning filthy on being left out 2nd final in a row. 3 1 Quote
Bowserpower 169 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 6 hours ago, BLWNBA said: Melbourne strongly targeting Brisbane’s first round pick, currently Pick 15 (1112 points). Sending pick 25 from Adelaide (756 points), Pick 38 received from Sydney (465), and Pick 50 will give the Lions 1,494 points to assist with the acquisition of L. Ashcroft. Says who mate? No disrespect intended but this sounds completely made up. Quote
ANG13 2,110 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 45 minutes ago, Redleg said: Apparently Sam De Koning filthy on being left out 2nd final in a row. Thanks. Apologies to @Little Goffy, I seriously have paid zero attention to team selection and had no idea Sam had been left out. 3 Quote
Little Goffy 14,963 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 7 hours ago, ANG13 said: Thanks. Apologies to @Little Goffy, I seriously have paid zero attention to team selection and had no idea Sam had been left out. Not paying attention to Geelong team selection is a credit to your reputation. 1 2 Quote
Dee Viney Intervention 2,028 Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 14 hours ago, roy11 said: So we're going for Geelong this weekend then? For no other reason than I hope it gets me a bigger tax deduction. 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 I think if we were to pull this off I could see us zoning in on Cooper Hynes with this pick. 5 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 8 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said: This makes total sense, and I think we need to perhaps brace ourselves for an underwhelming trade and free agency period in terms of incoming players. I can see us adding a couple of depth types, but I think most of the action for us will be around draft pick trading as we target the top end of the draft. Brisbane an obvious one, but also Gold Coast, Fremantle and potentially Richmond all options for us to deal with as well, for varying reasons. The cap becomes intriguing for us with our change of circumstance also in my view. We get a 90% discount on Gus' contract next year and you'd think we had the earmarked for Houston, and perhaps the Gawn and Viney re-signings were around rearranging contracts also. So, what happens now? We've likely cleared space there but lost the target that according to reputable journos was an absolute lock for us before the Petracca mess. We don't seem to be linked to anyone now who would take considerable cap space. So there's potentially things we can do there if we can be creative. I think you will find it wasn’t Tracc, it was us dropping to pick 5, which we deemed far too much for Houston. 4 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 6 hours ago, BigMacjnr said: Appreciate opinions from our resident youth track watchers as the best but realistic sliders we could pick up if we obtain Brisbane's first round pick? Given Lions have now made to preliminary week, their 1st pick “live” would be 15 (lose prelim ) or 17 (lose GF) or 18 (win premiership). in this range, are players like Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo. key position forward. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong. Tall mid. Alix Tauru - Gippsland. tall fwd/back Bo Allan - WA. Mid Joe Berry - Murray. HFF/mid Tom Gross - Oakleigh. Mid. Alex Dodson- SA . Ruck 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,731 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 1 hour ago, FreedFromDesire said: I don't agree at all. Petracca and Houston share the same agent, and it was mentioned just this week (apologies I can't remember which journalist, think it was Cleary or Edmund) that Houston was an absolute lock to come to Melbourne up until the Petracca situation unfolded. Also, would have been pretty easy for us to split that pick, or find another way to get the deal done if the club did believe pick 5 was too high - Personally, I think given our trade history we would have swapped it for him. It was both. We didn't want to pay what they were asking, so CSM through us under the bus and used Trac as the excuse. 1 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,731 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 2 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said: I still disagree unless you can provide a factual source for this assertion? Trade period hasn't even started, so I would find it hard to believe we walked away from negotiations before they had even begun. I've not seen the 'we didn't want to pay pick 5' argument anywhere other than from a couple of posters on Demonland, so, no slight on yourself of course, but that makes it even harder to believe. Even harder to believe is a sports management company, who presumably manage multiple Demons, would do such as a thing as you have accused them of when their relationships with clubs are critical to their business. That's fine. Believe what you want. A poster I trust already confirmed what I've said on the same pages of Demonland a few days ago. 2 Quote
adonski 13,267 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 We should chase the priority pick Brisvegas may apply for once this games done! 1 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 1 hour ago, FreedFromDesire said: I don't agree at all. Petracca and Houston share the same agent, and it was mentioned just this week (apologies I can't remember which journalist, think it was Cleary or Edmund) that Houston was an absolute lock to come to Melbourne up until the Petracca situation unfolded. Also, would have been pretty easy for us to split that pick, or find another way to get the deal done if the club did believe pick 5 was too high - Personally, I think given our trade history we would have swapped it for him. If they have the same agent he would have known Tracc’s gripes, so how would Houston have been an absolute lock? Also now the Tracc situation has seemingly settled, so why isn’t he still an absolute lock? It is to do with pick 5 I believe. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, adonski said: We should chase the priority pick Brisvegas may apply for once this games done! You mean the PP that will go with number 1 in the draft, Levi Ashcroft. 1 Quote
adonski 13,267 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 59 minutes ago, adonski said: We should chase the priority pick Brisvegas may apply for once this games done! 4 Quote
adonski 13,267 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 On 20/09/2024 at 16:26, BLWNBA said: Melbourne strongly targeting Brisbane’s first round pick, currently Pick 15 (1112 points). Sending pick 25 from Adelaide (756 points), Pick 38 received from Sydney (465), and Pick 50 will give the Lions 1,494 points to assist with the acquisition of L. Ashcroft. This will push out to pick 20+ post father sons, free agency compo, NGA, ACDC, etc Is there much point in doing it 3 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,678 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 16 minutes ago, adonski said: This will push out to pick 20+ post father sons, free agency compo, NGA, ACDC, etc Is there much point in doing it It’s often first in best dressed with moving up in the draft but I’d rather actually wait until the draft and see just who is available at the picks before we trade up this year. It’s a deep draft so someone should fall to 30, meanwhile I reckon we got caught out in 20/21 and even last year trading up and not getting our most preferred targets. 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,731 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 15 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: It’s often first in best dressed with moving up in the draft but I’d rather actually wait until the draft and see just who is available at the picks before we trade up this year. It’s a deep draft so someone should fall to 30, meanwhile I reckon we got caught out in 20/21 and even last year trading up and not getting our most preferred targets. So who do you think was our preferred target last year? Quote
adonski 13,267 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 7 minutes ago, Adam The God said: So who do you think was our preferred target last year? I reckon we initially thought windsor may be available at our second, first rounder Which prompted the late trip to Kolts 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,678 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 59 minutes ago, Adam The God said: So who do you think was our preferred target last year? I reckon plan A was to have Windsor sneak through and grab Curtin/Caddy first. Plan B was Windsor at 7, hope 2 others (Wilson, ?) went and then have one of the talls in Caddy/Curtin/O’Sullivan get through. Not that I’m unhappy with Kolt or that he wouldn’t have been part of the plan to go up and secure someone higher up. But he wasn’t the optimal result. It’s obviously better when you have situation like Rivers in 2019 fall to your pick and you get the win of the player without spending more draft capital. 3 Quote
Ethan Tremblay 31,388 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, FreedFromDesire said: I still disagree unless you can provide a factual source for this assertion? Trade period hasn't even started, so I would find it hard to believe we walked away from negotiations before they had even begun. I've not seen the 'we didn't want to pay pick 5' argument anywhere other than from a couple of posters on Demonland, so, no slight on yourself of course, but that makes it even harder to believe. Even harder to believe is a sports management company, who presumably manage multiple Demons, would do such as a thing as you have accused them of when their relationships with clubs are critical to their business. Hi FFD, just curious but would you happen be the artist formally known as Lord Nev? Edited September 21, 2024 by Ethan Tremblay 1 4 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,731 Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said: I think if we were to pull this off I could see us zoning in on Cooper Hynes with this pick. Hope so. Jagga Smith and Cooper Hynes with Rivers, Kozzy, McVee and Kolt would transform our midfield. 2 Quote
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