New assistant coaches at the Demons?

[Roost it far 8,104]

How do you even begin to coach Max Gawn? It’s a little offensive to even suggest such an unwarranted position needs to be filled. 

[Travy14 1,910]

21 hours ago, Palace Dees said:

Needs to have completed at least a level 2 to coach himself. 🙃

I'd be surprised if he didn't already have it

[demon3165 2,662]

On 02/11/2024 at 17:32, Roost it far said:

How do you even begin to coach Max Gawn? It’s a little offensive to even suggest such an unwarranted position needs to be filled. 

Hey Max at centre bounce ball ups jump and tap the ball instead of wrestling might be a start.

 

 

[djr 1,430]

Does Mick Stinear harbour any ambitions in coaching at AFL? level? He has been very successful at VFL and AFLW and I recall Daisy Pearce rave about how good he is after our premiership.

[58er 6,335]

3 hours ago, djr said:

Does Mick Stinear harbour any ambitions in coaching at AFL? level? He has been very successful at VFL and AFLW and I recall Daisy Pearce rave about how good he is after our premiership.

Agree he would sort out our forward line etc. AFL Coach in waiting should have got him maybe instead of Jonesy if he was available. We don’t want to lose him. 

[58er 6,335]

On 02/11/2024 at 10:31, FreedFromDesire said:

Definitely a fair point, and could be a part of the reason his role was mentioned in the review findings. Will be really interesting to see what changes there. From what I understand though, and don't take this as absolute gospel, he has been a bit stuck in the middle in terms of who has been calling the shots, as in - he hasn't had the power to do the things his role really should do. My personal feeling is that is a small part of why Roffey and Pert are both no longer there but Richardson has remained.

My point about support though was that it has felt like we've had a smaller coaching group to some other teams. I'm not sure if that's completely accurate in terms of going over every club and counting them, it's just gut feel. The comments about Goodwin in the review and then the likelihood we'll have a larger coaching group were telling in my view. If they do end up adding in a specific strategy coach then I'll be really happy as it's been a clear weakness for us I think and having a coach solely focused on that aspect can only help.

We had Mark Jennings as. Strategy Coach about 4/5 years ago and believe he was good but not sure about his worth and value under Goody at the time as he may have been undervalued. Correct me wrong please if any one else can remember when Mark was with us.

[58er 6,335]

On 01/11/2024 at 13:55, DeeZone said:

Thanks FFD what is your source??

Read the letter from Brad Green Pres I believe it is there.

[Earl Hood 6,078]

25 minutes ago, 58er said:

We had Mark Jennings as. Strategy Coach about 4/5 years ago and believe he was good but not sure about his worth and value under Goody at the time as he may have been undervalued. Correct me wrong please if any one else can remember when Mark was with us.

My memory of Jennings is that he hadn’t played the game at a high level but had studied the game and evolving strategies in great detail. He used to have a regular spot on SEN covering game strategies as I remember and he seemed to know his stuff. I do remember one game in his last season with us where we got up to win a close one and the TV showed Goody in the box, all excited and he gave a sheepish looking Jennings a rub on the head as if to say, “I told you so!”. The thought in my mind at the time was that Goody and Jennings were at odds, the experienced practitioner coach (obsessed with defence & contested ball) had stopped listening to the theoretical (offensive, ball movement) strategist. And at the end of the season he was gone but we did go on to win a flag with Goody’s defensive game plan the next year I think it was. 

The review, it appears has recognised that our game plan needs changing and that Goodwin needs more resources and as part of that I hope he will be challenged on game strategy and the need to be less defensive to be more offensive. 
 

 

[Lucifers Hero 39,320]

39 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

My memory of Jennings is that he hadn’t played the game at a high level but had studied the game and evolving strategies in great detail. He used to have a regular spot on SEN covering game strategies as I remember and he seemed to know his stuff. I do remember one game in his last season with us where we got up to win a close one and the TV showed Goody in the box, all excited and he gave a sheepish looking Jennings a rub on the head as if to say, “I told you so!”. The thought in my mind at the time was that Goody and Jennings were at odds, the experienced practitioner coach (obsessed with defence & contested ball) had stopped listening to the theoretical (offensive, ball movement) strategist. And at the end of the season he was gone but we did go on to win a flag with Goody’s defensive game plan the next year I think it was. 

The review, it appears has recognised that our game plan needs changing and that Goodwin needs more resources and as part of that I hope he will be challenged on game strategy and the need to be less defensive to be more offensive.

I also recall some friction in the coach's box.

As an aside, the only years we have have made the 8 is when we had a strategy coach:  Jennings (2018) and Yze (2021 - 2023). 

Coincidence?  Maybe, maybe not  ... 🤔

I'm 100% with you and @FreedFromDesire for a strategy coach especially with such inexperience midfield coaches and the absence of a ball-movement coach.

...anyone know if we have a ruck coach...?

Edited Monday at 07:29 by Lucifers Hero

[Roger Mellie 3,950]

1 hour ago, 58er said:

We had Mark Jennings as. Strategy Coach about 4/5 years ago and believe he was good but not sure about his worth and value under Goody at the time as he may have been undervalued. Correct me wrong please if any one else can remember when Mark was with us.

Craig Jennings

[SAlves 37]

Wasn't it Craig Jennings & not Mark Jennings?!

He was our strategy coach from 2016 to 2019:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/130660/one-of-the-best-minds-in-footy-to-leave-the-demons

[Adam The God 30,026]

Yes, it's Craig. He's now the strategy coach at GWS, and you'd have to say has his fingerprints all over their ball movement.

[Demonstone 22,183]

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned that Jennings' first name is actually Craig.

[DEE fence 5,000]

5 hours ago, 58er said:

We had Mark Jennings as. Strategy Coach about 4/5 years ago and believe he was good but not sure about his worth and value under Goody at the time as he may have been undervalued. Correct me wrong please if any one else can remember when Mark was with us.

Wasn't he a part of Team Roos? 

[drysdale demon 4,824]

10 hours ago, DEE fence said:

Wasn't he a part of Team Roos? 

He was at the Bulldogs prior to that, he was part of their coaching panel when they won the flag in 2016.

[dazzledavey36 54,091]

15 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

He was at the Bulldogs prior to that, he was part of their coaching panel when they won the flag in 2016.

No he wasn't.

Jennings joined the Dees at the start of 2016.

Edited Monday at 21:35 by dazzledavey36

[Ferghus31 97]

Does anyone know what is happening with Choco hopefully staying?

[drysdale demon 4,824]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No he wasn't.

Jennings joined the Dees at the start of 2016.

Okay, got it wrong. Not, he he started at MFC at beginning of 2019 after apposition analyst coach at bulldogs.

I can now continue my with my selections for Flemington.

Edited Monday at 23:22 by drysdale demon