43 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

I’m not sure you are his priority here Roost.. Yours , the public, media or the club. 
 

All power to him for putting himself and his loved ones first.

All power to him, but the MFC is paying him over a million bucks a year and what are we getting in return at the minute?

He can’t even put a statement out to take speculation off the club and if the Houston story is to be believed he’s hurting our chances of recruiting other players. 

I understand that he's injured and doing it tough. No one begrudges him raising his concerns and frustrations with the objective of driving the club's improvement. But his silence is creating an unnecessary media circus which places pressure on the rest of the club, including his teammates, and our recruiting staff who are working hard to bring in players to drive that improvement. 

@Colm
 

Gina Rinehart is being paid billions and won’t answer to her shareholders. 
 

Donald Trump behaves badly and wont answer to his party. Or his country 
 

Dan Andrew’s….

 
Raygun (gawd lover her)…. 
 

Your point is? 
 

Houston will turn out ok. He ain’t worth 2 first round picks. 

 

Edited August 24, 2024Aug 24 by Demonsterative

I saw a news report a few pages back that said Trac is currently under instructions to keep his heart rate no higher than 100 bpm (have heard this a few times now). 

So is it possible that in light of this, his decision not to media last night was deemed too risky? And in a greater sense, are the club being widely respectful of the need for him to keep travel, engagement with the press and thoughts of his career in general at a minimum?

The negative guy in me is listening to Goodwin’s presser and noticing that the only reassuring thing he can say is basically “he’s under contract”; hardly the words supporters want to hear. But what else can he say? 

My gut feeling is that Trac spoke to his manager about the possibility of quitting the club AND the game. 

I just can’t see the logic in someone having such a traumatic medical experience, then thinking all of the associated problems that come with that might be solved by playing for another team. You’d be far more likely to think these problems would be solved by never playing again. 

I think what Goodwin wanted to say was “IF Christian continues to play football it will be with us. But we have to respect the fact that - right now - he’s not sure if he will”. 
 

If he were to say that, Trac’s unwanted media attention would just double. And that heart rate just goes up. 

3 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

@Colm
 

Gina Rinehart is being paid billions and won’t answer to her shareholders. 
 

Donald Trump behaves badly and wont answer to his party. Or his country 
 

Dan Andrew’s….

 
Raygun (gawd lover her)…. 
 

Your point is? 
 

Houston will turn out ok. He ain’t worth 2 first round picks. 

 

My point is I’ve no problem with him putting himself and family first but while he is contracted to our club and being paid a huge sum of money to do so, he should be doing his best to improve the club or at least show loyalty to the club and fans.
#makemelbournegreatagain

The circus that he has created over the past few weeks could be put to bed by a decent statement from him or his management. 
He signed the contracted, took the money, that comes with responsibilities and expectations. 

Agree Houston isn’t worth 2 first round picks or even pick 6. 

6 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I think at this point there are two factors in his silence. 

The first would be that he is mulling over a trade request but doesn’t yet know if a club he wants to go to can satisfy us. So he can’t commit, nor can he say he wants out. So he says nothing. 

The second would be his mental health. I suspect he is in a much worse place than most on here understand. Stepping out of the interview late last night can IMO be well explained by that. He isn’t anywhere near his normal self and that will be impacting his judgment, decision making and persona. 

Just to clarify are these the same mental health issues that allow him to post adds on his socials?

You know, if he happened to be a reader of Demonland, and this thread, he might feel that he owes all these "supporters"(cough) nothing.

 

 Just sayin'.

Just now, Ollie fan said:

You know, if he happened to be a reader of Demonland, and this thread, he might feel that he owes all these "supporters"(cough) nothing.

 

 Just sayin'.

Hearing rumours he's questioning why your name isn't Trac fan

7 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Just to clarify are these the same mental health issues that allow him to post adds on his socials?

Just to clarify as someone who has experience in social media, that the paid content he’s posting on his platforms are contractual obligations that would have been signed well before his injury happened. 

3 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I find this a poor comment for two reasons.

1 - I will confess, I don't follow Christian on social media, but I do know that many of his posts, especially ads, would be pre-recorded/made and scheduled to be posted. This was evident when he had posts going up of him while he was in ICU. That is the industry norm with influencers and the like.

2 - Mental health is an obviously nuanced area. Even if Christian was posting on social media but not talking to mainstream media, surely you can understand how those are different things? Christian filming a cooking video at home, perhaps by himself or with his partner, then editing it and deciding when and if to share is very different to doing a live TV interview to a national audience being asked difficult questions that he may not have an answer to at this stage.

I hope one day the disingenuous nature we have when approaching mental health issues changes in this country. We seem to only be sensitive to it when it suits us. Young men are still committing suicide at an extremely high rate in Australia, so I believe it's something worth taking the time to think about before commenting.

Exactly, I don’t need to post on here any personal experiences I, or someone close to me may or may not of had to give my post more weight. If he’s currently experiencing any mental health related issues would he not be best served from turning everything off? These opportunities have only presented themselves from his career as a footballer with the MFC.

10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Just to clarify as someone who has experience in social media, that the paid content he’s posting on his platforms are contractual obligations that would have been signed well before his injury happened. 

Health before money, thats if his health is an issue. 

10 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Health before money, thats if his health is an issue. 

He’s probably not posting it. A social media account as big as his, would have someone else editing and posting the content. At best he would be doing some filming to hit dates that he’s been contractually obligated to. 
 

Just now, Jaded No More said:

He’s probably not posting it. A social media account as big as his, would have someone else editing and posting the content. At best he would be doing some filming to hit dates that he’s been contractually obligated to. 
 

At best if he is suffering mental health issues he would best served stepping aside from those obligations and forfeiting the money because his health is the most important thing? He’s still contractually obligated to the MFC his primary employer. The MFC is giving him time & space,  so am I to assume these companies that are paying him to advertise their brand aren’t?

1 hour ago, Colm said:

My point is I’ve no problem with him putting himself and family first but while he is contracted to our club and being paid a huge sum of money to do so, he should be doing his best to improve the club or at least show loyalty to the club and fans.
#makemelbournegreatagain

The circus that he has created over the past few weeks could be put to bed by a decent statement from him or his management. 
He signed the contracted, took the money, that comes with responsibilities and expectations. 

Agree Houston isn’t worth 2 first round picks or even pick 6. 

Trac can put himself first. Even if that means he wants to leave. He has no reason to speak up atm. It will all come out when he is ready. His health is paramount. Not appeasing the AFL world. 
 

money has absolute no part to play in this. His contract and wealth is his business, not anyone else’s. 

11 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

At best if he is suffering mental health issues he would best served stepping aside from those obligations and forfeiting the money because his health is the most important thing? He’s still contractually obligated to the MFC his primary employer. The MFC is giving him time & space,  so am I to assume these companies that are paying him to advertise their brand aren’t?

Have you considered his social media work is actually good for his mental and emotional health?

His career has been temporarily taken from him.  He isn't allowed to exercise, except a slow jog. 

Do you expect him to just sit on a couch feeling sorry for himself - surely that would make any emotional and mental health issues worse.  Sure he can read books, play games etc ... Any of us would go spare doing that all day, day in and day out let alone someone who has been very active.

At least filming cooking segments which don't require any physical exertion and can be filmed in stages as and when he feels up to it give him a distraction from all his health issues and satisfaction to be achieving something.

As other's have said, show some empathy and compassion.

Edited August 24, 2024Aug 24 by Lucifers Hero

25 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Sorry, I'm not sure what your first sentence means? My apologies.

As for the second part, I would suggest unless you know Christian personally, and you're totally across all the details of every part of his experience, and you're also experienced and qualified in counselling; perhaps you can just empathise rather than provide unrequested and unqualified advice in public?

The last sentence is a very poor comment. Again, I would ask that perhaps you allow a young man the same empathy regardless of his career or any kind of misplaced ownership you may feel over him.

As a human, a parent, a partner, a friend  or even a colleague of someone, you don’t need a degree or qualification in anything to come to the conclusion 

25 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Have you considered his social media work is actually good for his mental and emotional health?

His career has been temporarily taken from him.  He isn't allowed to exercise, except a slow jog. 

Do you expect him to just sit on a couch feeling sorry for himself - surely that would make any emotional and mental health issues worse.  Sure he can read books, play games etc ... Any of us would go spare doing that all day, day in and day out let alone someone who has been very active.

At least filming cooking segments which don't require any physical exertion and can be filmed in stages as and when he feels up to it give him a distraction from all his health issues and satisfaction to be achieving something.

As other's have said, show some empathy and compassion.

If I was in his circle and believed that he was suffering mentally I would personally encourage him to step away from any social media all together. No doubt social media has its benefits, he could post on his accounts and keep them limited to family and friends but he chooses to make them public. So as for is his social media work good for his mental & emotional health? I would say yes if it’s just for family and friends and no if it’s to be made public. What benefit does he get from making them public other than financial? He’s still getting paid and paid well by the MFC and has an obligation to the club first before any secondary sponsor. 

I was listening to Caro on 3AW and she said that she’d been told by someone that Christian thought it might be better for his brand of he was at a bigger club, Leigh Matthews said if that was the case it puts things in a whole different light. God I hope that isn’t true  

 

Hearing a lot about Christian's brand here, I just hope our brand is intact after all this.

4 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Does Tracc need to say anything? 5 years contracted. Turn up on November 8 or whenever it is and get back to work.

This is a naive way to view things. Not saying anything is destabilising the club. Someone from his camp obviously leaked to Morris in the first place and caused this news to break. Not coming out to refute it is saying loud and clear he wants out. All the club has been able to say is that he's contracted, no comments saying he loves the club and is focused on getting us back to finals or that he's committed to the club.

It feels like the situation is going to get ugly over the next few weeks.

It's no wonder we supporters get labelled with MFCSS, this club is so inept, so well versed at shooting itself in the foot that even when we stumble on a generational talent and build a successful team it's gone within a couple of years due to mismanagement and the generational player is so disenfranchised with the club he wants out. You couldn't make this [censored] up.

Edited August 24, 2024Aug 24 by Dr. Gonzo

When Petracca went back on to the field he was potentially within one solid blow to the body of being killed.

Do all the people criticising him not understand just how traumatic that knowledge would be, even months later?

Consider, too, the fact that his injuries were about as severe as those any player could ever expect to sustain in a single  incident.

In time he will decide on his best course of action, which we all hope will be to return to the field as a committed Demon.

For now, it is media grubs like Tom Morris who should be condemned for putting their lust for a story ahead of a player's physical and mental welfare.

2 hours ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I find this a poor comment for two reasons.

1 - I will confess, I don't follow Christian on social media, but I do know that many of his posts, especially ads, would be pre-recorded/made and scheduled to be posted. This was evident when he had posts going up of him while he was in ICU. That is the industry norm with influencers and the like.

2 - Mental health is an obviously nuanced area. Even if Christian was posting on social media but not talking to mainstream media, surely you can understand how those are different things? Christian filming a cooking video at home, perhaps by himself or with his partner, then editing it and deciding when and if to share is very different to doing a live TV interview to a national audience being asked difficult questions that he may not have an answer to at this stage.

I hope one day the disingenuous nature we have when approaching mental health issues changes in this country. We seem to only be sensitive to it when it suits us. Young men are still committing suicide at an extremely high rate in Australia, so I believe it's something worth taking the time to think about before commenting.

He doesn't have to do a live tv interview though. He could pre record something and post on his socials. He could draft something that could be emailed out by the club. He could do a press release for the media. He doesn't have to go on a live tv interview to put the rumours to bed. The fact he hasn't done any of these things speaks volumes.

Not saying anything is fuelling the speculation and media frenzy which would only be adding to any mental health issues he may have.

It would be simple as anything to draft a basic "it's been tough, I've been frustrated, had honest chats, but remain committed to MFC and further success" etc etc, it basically writes itself. So you'll excuse me if I don't by mental health and the reason he hasn't come out and said anything yet, especially someone as keyed into the brand-building and social media as Petracca is.

14 minutes ago, Dee-tonator said:

When Petracca went back on to the field he was potentially within one solid blow to the body of being killed.

Do all the people criticising him not understand just how traumatic that knowledge would be, even months later?

Consider, too, the fact that his injuries were about as severe as those any player could ever expect to sustain in a single  incident.

In time he will decide on his best course of action, which we all hope will be to return to the field as a committed Demon.

For now, it is media grubs like Tom Morris who should be condemned for putting their lust for a story ahead of a player's physical and mental welfare.

Morris is a grub but he was only doing his job. Who fed him the information for the story? Has his story turned out to be incorrect?

Petracca suffered a horrific injury, very dangerous situation, but blaming the club for sending him back in it wallowing in self pity about it isn't going to help anyone.

I don't criticise Petracca for being shaken or traumatised by the incident. I don't criticise him for taking time away from the club and heading north. I don't criticise him for feeling frustrated with the club.

I do criticise him for letting those frustrations because public and then letting them fester by not saying anything for 2 weeks while the club continues to cop it from all sections of the media.

What's this about Trac's contract being able to be voided due to medical negligence? Sounds like something Blues or Pies would be pushing so they get him for free. 

Surely not true, but did see it on X.