2024 Phantom Drafts

[Gawndog98 364]

Cal would’ve linked us to Smilie with either pick if we were interested in him, I think it’s pretty safe to say we aren’t going to pick him hence why Richmond is thinking about locking in Allan with 6 knowing Smilie just has to get past the Saints. Which I am happy we’ve got no interest in Smilie he screams bust potential to me, he just doesn’t do the team things and tries to play hero ball way too much, for me I like Allan much more than Smilie.

 

Edited November 19 by Gawndog98

[Young Blood 2,620]

14 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

It's possibly a few games being played as well, I personally think we've sent North a message that we're going to take Tauru, potentially so they don't slide down and we end up getting someone like Smith or Langford sliding to us. 

THIS

I'm still holding some hope.

Would be a terrific ploy on our part to make one of Jagga or Draper available.

[old55 23,609]

24 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

It's possibly a few games being played as well, I personally think we've sent North a message that we're going to take Tauru, potentially so they don't slide down and we end up getting someone like Smith or Langford sliding to us. 

 

8 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

THIS

I'm still holding some hope.

Would be a terrific ploy on our part to make one of Jagga or Draper available.

I'm sorry but this Tauru ruse doesn't make any sense. North have one chance to take him at 2, it doesn't matter what we say we might do at 5, they either pick him or they don't,  their next pick is in the 60s.

The only "slide" discussion has been to Adelaide's pick 4 and the same as above still applies.

Our interest in Tauru is not a ruse, it's genuine, I think we rate Langford higher and will take him if available but if not it sounds like Tauru at 5 - that's what Cal said today.

[rpfc 28,480]

2 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

I get Jackson vibes about selecting Bo Allen

Another flag and another Caleb Windsor?

Welcome to the MFC Bo Allan!

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

1 minute ago, old55 said:

 

I'm sorry but this Tauru ruse doesn't make any sense. North have one chance to take him at 2, it doesn't matter what we say we might do at 5, they either pick him or they don't,  their next pick is in the 60s.

The only "slide" discussion has been to Adelaide's pick 4 and the same as above still applies.

Our interest in Tauru is not a ruse, it's genuine, I think we rate Langford higher and will take him if available but if not it sounds like Tauru at 5 - that's what Cal said today.

Of course it matters what we say, we've sent a clear message to North that if they want Tauru, they need to take him before pick 5. If they do this, we get what we want which is one of the premium midfielders sliding to our pick. This is no guarantee, but it makes plenty of sense. 

If they slide down to pick 7 or 8 for example, and think Tauru gets past us, whoever gets that pick off North almost certainly takes one of those mids and we miss out again. 

The most reliable path for the MFC to get one of these gun mids is for North to take Tauru at pick 2

[Adam The God 30,266]

39 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

It's possibly a few games being played as well, I personally think we've sent North a message that we're going to take Tauru, potentially so they don't slide down and we end up getting someone like Smith or Langford sliding to us. 

Here we go @old55 😉 haha

[BangBnagBang 695]

58 minutes ago, Palace Dees said:

It's funny. I came away thinking that perhaps Berry was being considered too. Three times he mentioned small forwards with mids and talls as possibles. Maybe he was just deliberately broadening the field to give absolutely nothing away. 

Had the same thoughts. He mentioned the small group more than once unprompted.

[Axis of Bob 11,836]

6 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

Had the same thoughts. He mentioned the small group more than once unprompted.

Hotton also exists.

[old55 23,609]

26 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Of course it matters what we say, we've sent a clear message to North that if they want Tauru, they need to take him before pick 5. If they do this, we get what we want which is one of the premium midfielders sliding to our pick. This is no guarantee, but it makes plenty of sense. 

If they slide down to pick 7 or 8 for example, and think Tauru gets past us, whoever gets that pick off North almost certainly takes one of those mids and we miss out again. 

The most reliable path for the MFC to get one of these gun mids is for North to take Tauru at pick 2

There's been no discussion of North sliding past our pick. The only discussion has been about them possibly sliding to Adelaide's 4 and that's before our pick too. Even that discussion has dried up.

They either pick Tauru or someone else at 2 (or 4) independent of what we do. Cal and Fox both say they prefer FOS to Tauru.

Our reported interest in Tauru is genuine, it's not a ploy.

Edited November 19 by old55

[WiseDeeMan 90]

https://youtu.be/3uh5SE24RNg

This guy knows his stuff - watch this!

If this happens I’m doing a nudie run 

Has us with Jagga at 5 and Langford at 9

Edited November 19 by WiseDeeMan

[Nascent 9,216]

Cal has pretty much said Lalor and O'Sullivan are locked in for the first two picks.

We will get one of Langford, Smith or Tauru. Anything else would be a surprise.

[spirit of norm smith 16,468]

It’s a nervous time for young players, parents and families&friends.  Good luck to all. It’s exciting and tense, and some may be disappointed.  
All are “Best guesses” with a strong top Round 1 group and a deep pool of talent this year.  It’s a unique year imv.  
I have the Dees holding at picks 5 & 9.  There’s likely to be some pick swaps throughout but the first round predictions with picks “as is” are: 

1. Richmond. Sam Lalor. GWV
2.****Lions father son. Levi Ashcroft. Sandringham 
3. North Melbourne. Alix Tauru. Gippsland 
4. Carlton (via West Coast). Finn O’Sullivan . Oakleigh
5. Adelaide. Sid Draper. SA Sth Adelaide
6. Melbourne . Harvey Langford. Dandenong. 
7. Richmond (via Gold Coast). Jagga Smith. Oakleigh.  
8. ****Suns academy. Leonardo Lombard
9. St Kilda. Josh Smillie. Eastern
10. St Kilda (via Josh Battle compensation pick). Tobie Travaglia. Bendigo 
11. Melbourne (via Essendon).Bo Allan. WA Peel
12. Richmond (via Fremantle) Xavier Lindsay. Gippsland 
13.Richmond (via Fremantle, Collingwood) Jobe Shanahan. Bendigo
14. **** Ess NGA. Isaac Kako. Calder
15. West Coast (via Carlton) Taj Hotton. Sandringham   
16.  Port Adelaide (via Gold Coast, Western Bulldogs). Harry Armstrong . Sandringham  
17. Fremantle (via Richmond, Hawthorn, Carlton). Joe Berry. Murray  
18. Greater Western Sydney. Cooper Hynes . Dandenong
19. Greater Western Sydney (via Harry Perryman compensation pick). Murphy Reid. Sandringham 
20. Western Bulldogs (via Geelong). Ollie Hannaford. GWV
21. **** Lions academy. Sam Marshall 
22. Richmond (via Fremantle, Port Adelaide). Jack Whitlock. Murray .
23.****Blues father son. Ben Camporeale. SA. 
24. Sydney. Luke Trainor. Sandringham 
25. Richmond (via Brisbane). Alex Dodson. SA Sturt
26. Greater Western Sydney (via Isaac Cumming compensation pick). Hamish Davis. WA Claremont
27. Sydney (via North Melbourne). Matt Whitlock. Murray 
28. Richmond (via Gold Coast, North Melbourne). Harrison Oliver. Sandringham 

predicting the longest first round ever!!

Some likely 2nd rounders: 

Tom Gross - Oakleigh. 
Christian Moraes - Eastern.  
Kayle Gerryn - WA West Perth.  
Thomas Sims - Northern.
Jonty Faull - GWV.  
Jesse Dattoli - Northern.  
Harry O'Farrell - Calder.
Lachie Jacques - Geelong. 
Jack Ough - GWV.
Angus Clarke - SA Glenelg.
Jasper Alger. Oakleigh
Josh Murphy - Murray.  
*** GWS Academy - Logan Smith
Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA.  
*** Crows. Tyler Welsh SA WWT eagles.  
James Barrat - Bendigo.  
*** Sydney academy. Joel Cochran. 
Tate Delmenico SA WWT eagles.
Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo.

Likely 3rd rounders: 
Clancy Dennis - WA  Claremont
Noah Mraz - Dandenong. 
*** Crows father son . Luke Camporeale. Glenelg 
Sam Davidson. RICHMOND VFL 
Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie.
Hugh Boxshall. WA Claremont
Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh.  
*** Stk NGA. Adrian Cole.  Sandringham. 
Dom Brew. Werribee VFL
Riley Bice Werribee VFL.
***Port father son Louis Montgomery. SA Nth Adel.  
Ned Bowman. Norwood SA
Xavier Ivisic Geelong  
 *** West Coast NGA Malakai Champion.  WA  Subiaco.
Josh Dolan. Sandringham 
Floyd Burmeister. GWV 
Will Hayes. WA Claremont.  

after this it’s seeing who might have draft picks available, or will pickup rookie opportunities or SSP train on spots. As with every year, there will be some very talented young footy players will miss out on getting on an AFL senior or rookie list.  

Potential for 4th round or more likely rookies:  

Charlie West SA WWT Eagles
Phoenix Hargrave.  SA Sth Adel
Oliver Warburton. Murray.
Jack Henderson. Werribee VFL.
Luke Kennedy . Sandringham.  
Patrick Retschko. Oakleigh 
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank. Tassie
Lucca Grego. Western. 
Kade Herbert. SA WWT eagles.
*** Port Adel NGA. Benny Barrett.Sth Adel. SA 
Cody Angove. WA Claremont 
Zak Johnson. Northern.
Jaxon Artemis- WA Sth Frem
*** GWS academy. Cooper Bell.
Nash King. Calder.
Bailey McKenzie. Sandringham  
Aiden Riddle - WA. Claremont
** Dees. NGA Riak Andrew Dandenong 
Luke Urquhart. WA  East Frem
Damon Hollow. Calder
*** Saints NGA. Lennox Hoffman. Sandringham.
Rhys Unwin. GWV. 
Jett Hasting. SA WWT eagles. 
Mitch Kirkwood-Scott. Sandringham 
Blake Leidler. Oakleigh.  
Keighton Matofai-Forbes. Western.  
Harry Charlson. GWV
** GWS academy. Josaia Delana
** Haw NGA . Cody Anderson. Eastern.  
** Ess NGA Jayden Nguyen Calder .
** Stk father son. Elwood Peckett
** Dees Father son Noah Yze. Oakleigh.  
**Dees NGA Ricky Mentha Gippsland 

 

Edited November 19 by spirit of norm smith
Living on a prayer

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

6 minutes ago, old55 said:

There's been no discussion of North sliding past our pick. The only discussion has been about them possibly sliding to Adelaide's 4 and that's before our pick too. Even that discussion has dried up.

They either pick Tauru or someone else at 2 (or 4) independent of what we do. Cal and Fox both say they prefer FOS to Tauru.

Our reported interest in Tauru is genuine, it's not a ploy.

I didn't say it saw a ploy, i have no doubt our interest is genuine, but i think we clearly like others more, and making it clear to North Tauru doesn't get past 5 does help to nudge them in that direction. 

I don't blame them if they take FOS instead, it just narrows the field for us, those of us, like me who would prefer Langford or Smith just have to hope the Crows or Carlton choose Draper. 

[Dee Boys 636]

6 minutes ago, WiseDeeMan said:

https://youtu.be/3uh5SE24RNg

This guy knows his stuff - watch this!

If this happens I’m doing a nudie run 

Has us with Jagga at 5 and Langford at 9

As much as I’d be thrilled with that, he clearly doesn’t know his stuff if that’s what he’s got happening!

[Mouseymoo 364]

So still trying to get a bit of a read on where we will be draft night the only definite I can glean is;

- Pick 5 Langford. If Langford gone it's Tauru.

Is that it? No other possible outcomes? We not into Smith or any other slider? 

 

- Pick 9 Allan. If Allan's gone it's Lindsay or possibly Travaglia or Reid. Haven't heard anyone else linked to us. 

[Nascent 9,216]

58 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s a nervous time for young players, parents and families&friends.  Good luck to all. It’s exciting and tense, and some may be disappointed.  
All are “Best guesses” with a strong top Round 1 group and a deep pool of talent this year.  It’s a unique year imv.  
I have the Dees holding at picks 5 & 9.  There’s likely to be some pick swaps throughout but the first round predictions with picks “as is” are: 

1. Richmond. Sam Lalor. GWV
2.****Lions father son. Levi Ashcroft. Sandringham 
3. North Melbourne. Alix Tauru. Gippsland 
4. Carlton (via West Coast). Finn O’Sullivan . Oakleigh
5. Adelaide. Sid Draper. SA Sth Adelaide
6. Melbourne . Harvey Langford. Dandenong. 
7. Richmond (via Gold Coast). Jagga Smith. Oakleigh.  
8. ****Suns academy. Leonardo Lombard
9. St Kilda. Josh Smillie. Eastern
10. St Kilda (via Josh Battle compensation pick). Tobie Travaglia. Bendigo 
11. Melbourne (via Essendon).Bo Allan. WA Peel
12. Richmond (via Fremantle) Xavier Lindsay. Gippsland 
13.Richmond (via Fremantle, Collingwood) Jobe Shanahan. Bendigo
14. **** Ess NGA. Isaac Kako. Calder
15. West Coast (via Carlton) Taj Hotton. Sandringham   
16.  Port Adelaide (via Gold Coast, Western Bulldogs). Harry Armstrong . Sandringham  
17. Fremantle (via Richmond, Hawthorn, Carlton). Joe Berry. Murray  
18. Greater Western Sydney. Cooper Hynes . Dandenong
19. Greater Western Sydney (via Harry Perryman compensation pick). Murphy Reid. Sandringham 
20. Western Bulldogs (via Geelong). Ollie Hannaford. GWV
21. **** Lions academy. Sam Marshall 
22. Richmond (via Fremantle, Port Adelaide). Jack Whitlock. Murray .
23.****Blues father son. Ben Camporeale. SA. 
24. Sydney. Luke Trainor. Sandringham 
25. Richmond (via Brisbane). Alex Dodson. SA Sturt
26. Greater Western Sydney (via Isaac Cumming compensation pick). Hamish Davis. WA Claremont
27. Sydney (via North Melbourne). Matt Whitlock. Murray 
28. Richmond (via Gold Coast, North Melbourne). Harrison Oliver. Sandringham 

predicting the longest first round ever!!

Some likely 2nd rounders: 

Tom Gross - Oakleigh. 
Christian Moraes - Eastern.  
Kayle Gerryn - WA West Perth.  
Thomas Sims - Northern.
Jonty Faull - GWV.  
Jesse Dattoli - Northern.  
Harry O'Farrell - Calder.
Lachie Jacques - Geelong. 
Jack Ough - GWV.
Angus Clarke - SA Glenelg.
Jasper Alger. Oakleigh
Josh Murphy - Murray.  
*** GWS Academy - Logan Smith
Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA.  
*** Crows. Tyler Welsh SA WWT eagles.  
James Barrat - Bendigo.  
*** Sydney academy. Joel Cochran. 
Tate Delmenico SA WWT eagles.
Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo.

Likely 3rd rounders: 
Clancy Dennis - WA  Claremont
Noah Mraz - Dandenong. 
*** Crows father son . Luke Camporeale. Glenelg 
Sam Davidson. RICHMOND VFL 
Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie.
Hugh Boxshall. WA Claremont
Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh.  
*** Stk NGA. Adrian Cole.  Sandringham. 
Dom Brew. Werribee VFL
Riley Bice Werribee VFL.
***Port father son Louis Montgomery. SA Nth Adel.  
Ned Bowman. Norwood SA
Xavier Ivisic Geelong  
 *** West Coast NGA Malakai Champion.  WA  Subiaco.
Josh Dolan. Sandringham 
Floyd Burmeister. GWV 
Will Hayes. WA Claremont.  

after this it’s seeing who might have draft picks available, or will pickup rookie opportunities or SSP train on spots. As with every year, there will be some very talented young footy players will miss out on getting on an AFL senior or rookie list.  

Potential for 4th round or more likely rookies:  

Charlie West SA WWT Eagles
Phoenix Hargrave.  SA Sth Adel
Oliver Warburton. Murray.
Jack Henderson. Werribee VFL.
Luke Kennedy . Sandringham.  
Patrick Retschko. Oakleigh 
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank. Tassie
Lucca Grego. Western. 
Kade Herbert. SA WWT eagles.
*** Port Adel NGA. Benny Barrett.Sth Adel. SA 
Cody Angove. WA Claremont 
Zak Johnson. Northern.
Jaxon Artemis- WA Sth Frem
*** GWS academy. Cooper Bell.
Nash King. Calder.
Bailey McKenzie. Sandringham  
Aiden Riddle - WA. Claremont
** Dees. NGA Riak Andrew Dandenong 
Luke Urquhart. WA  East Frem
Damon Hollow. Calder
*** Saints NGA. Lennox Hoffman. Sandringham.
Rhys Unwin. GWV. 
Jett Hasting. SA WWT eagles. 
Mitch Kirkwood-Scott. Sandringham 
Blake Leidler. Oakleigh.  
Keighton Matofai-Forbes. Western.  
Harry Charlson. GWV
** GWS academy. Josaia Delana
** Haw NGA . Cody Anderson. Eastern.  
** Ess NGA Jayden Nguyen Calder .
** Stk father son. Elwood Peckett
** Dees Father son Noah Yze. Oakleigh.  
**Dees NGA Ricky Mentha Gippsland 

 

Pretty comprehensive list there SONS.

I like that we've been linked to Zane Cochrane, looked fantastic last year as a bottom ager and got going later in the year for oakleigh.

Couple other names to look out for include Ben Kennedy, Patrick Said, Archie Caldow, Charlie Rozenes and Asher Eastham (could we go all gippy boys this draft?), 

I'm hoping Ough becomes a slider to our last selection but hard to see that happening.

 

 

Edited November 19 by Nascent

[Mouseymoo 364]

36 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

As much as I’d be thrilled with that, he clearly doesn’t know his stuff if that’s what he’s got happening!

In no universe does Langford get past Tiges and especially Saints 

[spirit of norm smith 16,468]

7 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Pretty comprehensive list there SONS.

I like that we've been linked to Zane Cochrane, looked fantastic last year as a bottom ager and got going later in the year for oakleigh.

Couple other names to look out for include Ben Kennedy, Patrick Said, Archie Caldow, Charlie Rozenes and  Asher Eastam (could we go all gippy boys this draft?), 

I'm hoping Ough becomes a slider to our last selection but hard to see that happening.

 

 

Thanks @nascent. I think youngsters like Max Donohue and Archer Eastham should get invited to Casey squad train on to see how they go. (Also Harry Doughton, Ben Hopkins and Charlie Orchard from Stingrays). Ben Kennedy is tough reliable running half back. Just classic footballer so agree with you that he might get a shot 👏👏

[Colm 2,157]

12 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

So still trying to get a bit of a read on where we will be draft night the only definite I can glean is;

- Pick 5 Langford. If Langford gone it's Tauru.

Is that it? No other possible outcomes? We not into Smith or any other slider? 

 

- Pick 9 Allan. If Allan's gone it's Lindsay or possibly Travaglia or Reid. Haven't heard anyone else linked to us. 

My take on it was we are not interest in Draper and would take Tauru before him. I assume we would take Smith if he was there and Langford was gone. 
 

I just assume Cal is off the belief that Carlton will take Smith. 

Edited November 19 by Colm

[The Jackson FIX 3,147]

7 hours ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

the club are wrapped with how he is shaping up right now.

It’s ‘rapt’ but is this just your guess based on contract extension + coming back in good shape or have you heard something more from someone at the club?

[Palace Dees 2,330]

OK, final prediction time.

5. Langford

9. If Allen available, we trade pick 9 to West Coast for 12 and 26 

West Coast get their local boy and we and we pick up a nippy goalsneak (eg Berry, Reid, Hotton) with pick 12 (15ish)

Then 🙏 PLEASE, hopefully Alex Dodson is still on the board and we snaffle him with 26 (30ish)

 

I then receive the Demonland Nostradamus Award, or request the mods delete this post. 😬

 

[DubDee 25,891]

Will it be Hoo-roo or Ta-Da to Tauru?

[Gawndog98 364]

19 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

So still trying to get a bit of a read on where we will be draft night the only definite I can glean is;

- Pick 5 Langford. If Langford gone it's Tauru.

Is that it? No other possible outcomes? We not into Smith or any other slider? 

 

- Pick 9 Allan. If Allan's gone it's Lindsay or possibly Travaglia or Reid. Haven't heard anyone else linked to us. 

If Jagga is available he won’t get past our pick but he’s not going to be available because he won’t get past Adelaide. Which means what it comes down to is if Langford is available he will be a Dee, if Adelaide take him over Draper Tauru will be a Dee.

As long as Draper is picked before our pick we will get Langford, if not it will be Tauru.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

10 minutes ago, Gawndog98 said:

If Jagga is available he won’t get past our pick but he’s not going to be available because he won’t get past Adelaide. Which means what it comes down to is if Langford is available he will be a Dee, if Adelaide take him over Draper Tauru will be a Dee.

As long as Draper is picked before our pick we will get Langford, if not it will be Tauru.

In fairness, i think there is a very real chance that Tauru slides to our pick 9 as well, Bo Allen seems to be coming with a bullet. 

[BAMF 4,353]

1 hour ago, old55 said:

There's been no discussion of North sliding past our pick. The only discussion has been about them possibly sliding to Adelaide's 4 and that's before our pick too. Even that discussion has dried up.

They either pick Tauru or someone else at 2 (or 4) independent of what we do. Cal and Fox both say they prefer FOS to Tauru.

Our reported interest in Tauru is genuine, it's not a ploy.

There was plenty of discussion early on for North to trade pick 2 and a future first for pick 6 and 11 from Richmond.

That hasn't had a mention for awhile now though