Oliver Trade Rumours

[whatwhat say what 22,426]

1 minute ago, adonski said:

Hearing from an excellent source that Clarry has requested a trade from Geelong to Melbourne

incorrect; it's shep to mooroopna

manangatang 3rds coming hard late...don't rule em out

[waynewussell 5,080]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

"Whatever the outcome, this club cannot continue with Gary Pert as CEO."

That's opinion.

You must have information that you haven't shared! Nothing that we know (emphasis on 'we know' because hearsay does not register on my scale of 'worth') causes me to scream for Pert's hanging. Are you sure you haven't simply been swept along by the lynch mob?

[deejammin' 2,331]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

"Whatever the outcome, this club cannot continue with Gary Pert as CEO."

That's opinion.

Where it gets blurry is when it’s published on the official AFL website. By publishing that content and supporting it there is a tacit imputation that the AFL condones or even shares the opinion. That’s not something a governing body should be doing and should Pert end up suing for unfair dismissal, industrial relations issues or defamation I wouldn’t be wanting to defend it legally.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

Just now, waynewussell said:

You must have information that you haven't shared! Nothing that we know (emphasis on 'we know' because hearsay does not register on my scale of 'worth') causes me to scream for Pert's hanging. Are you sure you haven't simply been swept along by the lynch mob?

Sorry, has the discussion moved on from whining about Barrett now?

There's plenty of reasons that Pert needs to go, main one is the poor culture he has presided over that has seen two of our top stars want to leave the club and the utter mismanagement of those two situations by the club. That's just for starters, you can also add in the rampant leaking of info to the media to try and sway supporters to the clubs narrative which has caused further divisions within the club. He hasn't hit any home runs anywhere else either, not great with sponsors, membership and crowds significantly down, no movement on a home base. He's emblematic of the basketcase the club is perceived as at the moment.

[Superunknown 4,200]

5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

incorrect; it's shep to mooroopna

manangatang 3rds coming hard late...don't rule em out

I played for Manang! Ah, how I miss the sandscrapes too. 

[Skuit 10,026]

Clayton Oliver and Marty Hore are half-heartedly kicking a deflated football around the dusty streets of Gunbower. 

Marty: Hey Clarry, it's been great visiting one of your many home towns, thanks again for the invo, but maybe we should head into to city for a decent bite to eat?

Clarry: Nah, I don't want to go back to Melbourne. The local does a steak sammy with the lot and eggs from Trac's good friends at the @theaustralianeggcouncil. 

The pair are suddenly distracted by some strange heavy breathing from a nearby bush. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

4 minutes ago, deejammin' said:

Where it gets blurry is when it’s published on the official AFL website. By publishing that content and supporting it there is a tacit imputation that the AFL condones or even shares the opinion. That’s not something a governing body should be doing and should Pert end up suing for unfair dismissal, industrial relations issues or defamation I wouldn’t be wanting to defend it legally.

Pert's not going to sue the AFL website FFS. Ours supporters have all gone full nuffie. AFL Media is run independently of the AFL, Barrett would be no worse than any other favoured reporters like Wilson, Baum or Whately who get fed lines from the AFL. The AFL website also reports on issues to do with the AFL executive and commission, they've been writing opinion about clubs for years too. The victim mentality on here is nauseating.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

7 hours ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

You need to listen to the podcast.  In it he talks about what he's looking forward to in 2025, ie running around with his Melbourne teammates, he talks about what he loves about the Melbourne culture, etc.  You should listen to it.

Was that before or after Pert started ringing around other clubs to see what they might offer for him?

[demon3165 2,630]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Was that before or after Pert started ringing around other clubs to see what they might offer for him?

In what context did he shop him around, was it with the football department permission or was it himself?

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

7 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

Dr Gonzo always says it. I think he is in the same group as Hawk the Demon and Dr Don Duffy - the Lawrence group.

Haha you have no idea 🤦

Anyone critical of the club must be part of some conspiracy to destabilise it hey? Couldn't be that the people running the club have done a poor job and the supporters are fed up with their mismanagement? We have two supposedly independent reviews going on because things are going just swimmingly at the Dees 🙄

[Mickey 4,582]

27 minutes ago, adonski said:

Hearing from an excellent source that Clarry has requested a trade from Geelong to Melbourne

Only if they pay half his wage and kick in the next 3 Pick 1s

[daisycutter 29,523]

35 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

We didn't even complain when one of our players was knocked into oblivion and forced to retire and you think we're gonna complain because a journo wrote something mean about us on the AFL website?

i don't think you are comprehending what i am saying

it has nothing to do with journos writing mean things - that's par for the course and a different issue

it's about an afl paid journo on an official afl site calling personally and directly for a club executive to be sacked. that sort of interference in club governance needs clarification/action from the afl ... it's simply beyond the pale

[this of course is a matter of principle and nothing to do with my opinion of pert's performance]

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

Just now, daisycutter said:

i don't think you are comprehending what i am saying

it has nothing to do with journos writing mean things - that's par for the course and a different issue

it's about an afl paid journo on an official afl site calling personally and directly for a club executive to be sacked. that sort of interference in club governance needs clarification/action from the afl ... it's simply beyond the pale

[this of course is a matter of principle and nothing to do with my opinion of pert's performance]

It's done through the AFL website which is run by AFL media. I think you'll find there's no issues (legally) with the way the AFL website opines on club matters.

[Flowergirl 536]

32 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Pert's not going to sue the AFL website FFS. Ours supporters have all gone full nuffie. AFL Media is run independently of the AFL, Barrett would be no worse than any other favoured reporters like Wilson, Baum or Whately who get fed lines from the AFL. The AFL website also reports on issues to do with the AFL executive and commission, they've been writing opinion about clubs for years too. The victim mentality on here is nauseating.

This is true, and it's important to note that Damien Barrett is critical of the AFL on a regular basis. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

2 hours ago, Pates said:

What irks me is that after we say we're not trading him, and Geelong say "we respect Melbourne's position", talks between him, his manager, and Geelong have clearly still continued. 

Is this all just preparation for next years trade period? Make his position at the club untenable so that they can come in with low ball offers? It also serves a secondary purpose where it potentially makes him less likely to provide us with his absolute best, or at the very least puts his head in a different space.

I swear they have done this with lots of other players as well, they've become the Barcelona of the AFL where they swoop in and take the best the league has to offer.

It's clearly continuing because Oliver wants it too. If he wasn't set on leaving us/going to Geelong then it would be a non-story.

[waynewussell 5,080]

37 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Sorry, has the discussion moved on from whining about Barrett now?

There's plenty of reasons that Pert needs to go, main one is the poor culture he has presided over that has seen two of our top stars want to leave the club and the utter mismanagement of those two situations by the club. That's just for starters, you can also add in the rampant leaking of info to the media to try and sway supporters to the clubs narrative which has caused further divisions within the club. He hasn't hit any home runs anywhere else either, not great with sponsors, membership and crowds significantly down, no movement on a home base. He's emblematic of the basketcase the club is perceived as at the moment.

bullocks!

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

1 minute ago, waynewussell said:

bullocks!

Yep, you've convinced me 😂

[waynewussell 5,080]

Gonzo is a try hard! Hey, mate... many of us here are Melbourne supporters! We are used to being under siege. It is when it comes from within that we protest, or at least stand up for what we are invested in. Don't give us a never-ending barrage of your misconceptions. No one has to go unless they have committed a serious crime!

[Dr. Gonzo 24,032]

3 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Gonzo is a try hard! Hey, mate... many of us here are Melbourne supporters! We are used to being under siege. It is when it comes from within that we protest, or at least stand up for what we are invested in. Don't give us a never-ending barrage of your misconceptions. No one has to go unless they have committed a serious crime!

What are you on about? Where I'm from when people perform poorly they are held to account. The cheerleaders on here that mindlessly support the club even when it is being mismanaged are worse than the people in the media gleefully kicking us for being a basketcase. There were many on here back during the Schwab years who didn't want to hear a bad word about that administration either, the threads will still be here if you do a search.

[daisycutter 29,523]

13 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

It's done through the AFL website which is run by AFL media. I think you'll find there's no issues (legally) with the way the AFL website opines on club matters.

barretts comment was more than just an opinion (as others have pointed out to you)

he has an obvious mission to get pert sacked and has called for it on a number of occasions lately, and none too subtly.

the afl website is fully owned and is the responsibility of the afl. they do in fact exercise a lot of editorial oversight on it (when it suits them).  Anyway, i never raised any questions on legalities, that was another poster

it p155es me off that journos think they can tell clubs how they should be run, just to boost their brand career, and in this case all under the aegis of the afl. some in the media are just pushing their relationships with clubs a bit too far, too quick.  the relationship between clubs and the media is rapidly changing (for the worse) and it's not just with the mfc.

i still think brad should have a private chat with the afl (if he hasn't)

[old55 23,239]

10 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

barretts comment was more than just an opinion (as others have pointed out to you)

he has an obvious mission to get pert sacked and has called for it on a number of occasions lately, and none too subtly.

the afl website is fully owned and is the responsibility of the afl. they do in fact exercise a lot of editorial oversight on it (when it suits them).  Anyway, i never raised any questions on legalities, that was another poster

it p155es me off that journos think they can tell clubs how they should be run, just to boost their brand career, and in this case all under the aegis of the afl. some in the media are just pushing their relationships with clubs a bit too far, too quick.  the relationship between clubs and the media is rapidly changing (for the worse) and it's not just with the mfc.

i still think brad should have a private chat with the afl (if he hasn't)

Holy sheet, this is getting to you daisycutter, I see a capital letter in that post!

[old55 23,239]

What @Dr. Gonzo says is correct AFL Media editorial is independent of AFL control. Barrett slags off the AFL regularly, he even has a dedicated slot for it at the bottom of his weekly Sliding Doors column

Posters here are now whinging that the AFL should rein Barrett in, the usual paranoid whinge, yes like you @Clintosaurus, is that journalists are in the AFL's pocket - you can't have it both ways ...

[Satyriconhome 10,507]

19 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

What are you on about? Where I'm from when people perform poorly they are held to account. The cheerleaders on here that mindlessly support the club even when it is being mismanaged are worse than the people in the media gleefully kicking us for being a basketcase. There were many on here back during the Schwab years who didn't want to hear a bad word about that administration either, the threads will still be here if you do a search.

You are still, as always, not answering the questions put to you.

You are part of the small cohort on here who demands that everybody accepts their opinion as the only right one.

Schwab tried hard to fix things, I didn't like the way he tried to interfere on the footy side, but he was pissing on too many fires at the same time and it overwhelmed him

Crowds not turning up on a freezing Saturday night Pert's fault, no fair-weather supporters.

No sponsor has jumped ship.

The home base is a greenfield project, ever been involved in one? I have, it is not a quick fix.

I could go on but I don't want to be delusional. 

[bush demon 2,027]

1 hour ago, deejammin' said:

Where it gets blurry is when it’s published on the official AFL website. By publishing that content and supporting it there is a tacit imputation that the AFL condones or even shares the opinion. That’s not something a governing body should be doing and should Pert end up suing for unfair dismissal, industrial relations issues or defamation I wouldn’t be wanting to defend it legally.

The AFL are essentially a gambling organisation with a commentary overlay and a bit of footy on the side. 

[rpfc 28,150]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Ours supporters have all gone full nuffie.