On 06/10/2024 at 09:13, schmutt said:

Realistically I'd like to see him traded because we simply can't make him/Viney/Petracca work in the middle anymore (We haven't really made that combo work for two years now). I get people are very attached to him and at his peak he was a top 5 player in the league, but the game has changed so much. Personally I'd like the club to cut their losses and move him on but it seems the club thinks clearly nothing is wrong with that midfield, and we'll likely pay dearly for that in the future.

Might need to revisit in 12-24 months time

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:13, schmutt said:

Realistically I'd like to see him traded because we simply can't make him/Viney/Petracca work in the middle anymore (We haven't really made that combo work for two years now). I get people are very attached to him and at his peak he was a top 5 player in the league, but the game has changed so much. Personally I'd like the club to cut their losses and move him on but it seems the club thinks clearly nothing is wrong with that midfield, and we'll likely pay dearly for that in the future.

Another Media Maggot

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:36, demoncat said:

Sure, you got his number?

With a name like demonic cat we dont expect JS.

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:53, FreedFromDesire said:

I certainly don't mean to stir the pot at all, so my apologies if I have done so, it was not my intention at all. I do however find it a troubling time for the club we love and while I do my best to be reasonable and polite about such, I also don't wish to avoid discussing things which may be perceived as difficult.

If you can't say anything that's not difficult, don't say anything at all.

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:56, Willmoy1947 said:

With a name like demonic cat we dont expect JS.

You reckon he won’t respond to meows and hisses?

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:24, Mickey said:

This. The Oliver trade is the only sensational thing happening at the moment. Of course its going to get air time

Surely a possible Derkson trade is bigger news.

  On 06/10/2024 at 10:04, Redleg said:

Surely a possible Derkson trade is bigger news.

It is, but i was so upset about  the footy people passing away.

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:52, drysdale demon said:

rule 303

Jeez we could clear the airways with rule 303, very poignant indeed.😁

My take is that external review and some player discontent combined with doubts whether Clarry will get back to his best and/or be value for money, means that we are open to option of moving him on.

 

Stumbling block is that we cannot afford to give him away for nothing. Our current stance with Cats is to come back with a deal that is mutually beneficial and that we can sell (to members and public) or there will be no trade.

 

Clarry is my all time favourite player, but there is little doubt that his behaviour and how the club has dealt with it has been a contributor to our lack of a second premiership. You need most things going right to win a premiership and this has definitely been going wrong.

 

FWIW I think that Clarry will be all Australian again, but whether it's in 2 years or 4 years I'm not sure. He needs to grow up and the jolt of a new club may help. Hogan is a great example of this. We need him based on current form, but he would not have been any help for the previous 4 years. 

 

 

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:13, schmutt said:

Realistically I'd like to see him traded because we simply can't make him/Viney/Petracca work in the middle anymore (We haven't really made that combo work for two years now). I get people are very attached to him and at his peak he was a top 5 player in the league, but the game has changed so much. Personally I'd like the club to cut their losses and move him on but it seems the club thinks clearly nothing is wrong with that midfield, and we'll likely pay dearly for that in the future.

You’re kidding, right?

Very little in that piece from Barrett didn't even hint that Geelong were upping their offer. Think this is all but done.

  On 06/10/2024 at 10:16, Great Sage said:

My take is that external review and some player discontent combined with doubts whether Clarry will get back to his best and/or be value for money, means that we are open to option of moving him on.

 

Stumbling block is that we cannot afford to give him away for nothing. Our current stance with Cats is to come back with a deal that is mutually beneficial and that we can sell (to members and public) or there will be no trade.

 

Clarry is my all time favourite player, but there is little doubt that his behaviour and how the club has dealt with it has been a contributor to our lack of a second premiership. You need most things going right to win a premiership and this has definitely been going wrong.

 

FWIW I think that Clarry will be all Australian again, but whether it's in 2 years or 4 years I'm not sure. He needs to grow up and the jolt of a new club may help. Hogan is a great example of this. We need him based on current form, but he would not have been any help for the previous 4 years. 

 

 

I think that is being a bit harsh on a kid as young as him and i also understand its a cut throat business.

That said people take time and space differently to get  back from personal disruption and the glare of the most self indulgent group of individuals god put breath into.

 

  On 06/10/2024 at 10:36, Willmoy1947 said:

I think that is being a bit harsh on a kid as young as him and i also understand its a cut throat business.

That said people take time and space differently to get  back from personal disruption and the glare of the most self indulgent group of individuals god put breath into.

 

Oh please..

He's not a kid mate, he's a 27 year old grown adult. Time to start acting like one for once in his life.

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:36, demoncat said:

Sure, you got his number?

1800 NOOSADEE

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:07, Deez21 said:

I’m hoping this is a case of geelong not giving up and not Pert STILL shopping him around after everyone confirmed on Friday night he’s not leaving

Wishful thinking. We still have him advertised on Gumtree under used sporting goods. Only the one bid though. 

If Oliver starts next season with a clear mind and a fit body, the sky is again the limit for him and the team.

Same goes for Petracca.

So after the trade and draft periods, we could be looking a lot stronger than a disastrous 2024 might suggest.

Only big loss from our best 22 so far is ANB, whose running and tackling will be missed.

What Clarrie needs right now is total support from everyone at the club to get back to his best.

 

Who would know whether Melbourne want Oliver or not? They don’t seem to know themselves. 

From Peter Ryan's article in The Age. Fantastic summary of our position.

  On 06/10/2024 at 09:53, Willmoy1947 said:

Another Media Maggot

Pardon?

 

  On 06/10/2024 at 10:16, KLV said:

You’re kidding, right?

Absolutely not, have you been watching us play? Midfield has gotten much worse over the past few years and our gamestyle with a bunch of inside mids doesn't hold up in the modern game.

  On 06/10/2024 at 02:43, Billy said:

I can’t differentiate sarcasm & seriousness anymore on this site.

This a good enough reason for Green to be ridiculed already?

Please tell me you’re kidding 

Not speaking for Adam but one of the most beautiful things about this place is the talent in the sarcasm area.

  On 06/10/2024 at 11:27, Dee-tonator said:

If Oliver starts next season with a clear mind and a fit body, the sky is again the limit for him and the team.

Same goes for Petracca.

So after the trade and draft periods, we could be looking a lot stronger than a disastrous 2024 might suggest.

Only big loss from our best 22 so far is ANB, whose running and tackling will be missed.

What Clarrie needs right now is total support from everyone at the club to get back to his best.

 

I just spoke with David Schwarz yesterday at work and he told me that Oliver and Trac are already putting in solid work for a big preseason. Oliver not going anywhere. 

I said to him to watch out for us in 2025! I feel like Melbourne will make a big statement next year. 

  On 06/10/2024 at 18:25, Where Demons Dare said:

I just spoke with David Schwarz yesterday at work and he told me that Oliver and Trac are already putting in solid work for a big preseason. Oliver not going anywhere. 

I said to him to watch out for us in 2025! I feel like Melbourne will make a big statement next year. 

I just wish they'd give us the double up Collingwood game in round 1 instead of in the later rounds. The kind of game where we can make a very big statement by coming out firing straight up !

Edited October 6, 2024Oct 6 by John Demonic

  On 06/10/2024 at 18:33, John Demonic said:

I just wish they'd give us the double up Collingwood game in round 1 instead of in the later rounds. The kind of game where we can make a very big statement by coming out firing straight up !

Unfortunately I could see us losing to Collingwood again which sets off all the emotions of "here we go again".

I think the AFL will go after another Round 1 attendance record and putting Hawks vs. Pies on a Friday night would be a good start.

After all this trade [censored], Melbourne vs. Geelong at the MCG, Saturday 2.10, is what i'd like to see.

  On 06/10/2024 at 18:33, John Demonic said:

I just wish they'd give us the double up Collingwood game in round 1 instead of in the later rounds. The kind of game where we can make a very big statement by coming out firing straight up !

We are Collingwood's bunnies. I'd rather play them less not more.

  On 06/10/2024 at 20:59, KozzyCan said:

We are Collingwood's bunnies. I'd rather play them less not more.

You run toward your fear not away from it.

  On 06/10/2024 at 21:10, Roost it far said:

You run toward your fear not away from it.

I don't fear them, but playing them is a pretty miserable experience of late. The games aren't even entertaining. Apart from a small reprieve in 2023 we've been beaten the exact same way by them every time the past few years.