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It seems to be a weekly occurrence now that games are won or lost due to crook umpiring decisions. Fer C/Sake, there's four of them now and yet yesterday two E Coli Wobblers were allowed to run over the mark of a North player and four umpires turned a blind eye. There is now an epidemic of these contentious and or/ non decisions which in my case have caused a kind of contempt for the state of the AFL, bordering on suspicion that more sinister aspects lurk behind the mythology of a Level Playing Field. 

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:14, Monbon said:

    It seems to be a weekly occurrence now that games are won or lost due to crook umpiring decisions. Fer C/Sake, there's four of them now and yet yesterday two E Coli Wobblers were allowed to run over the mark of a North player and four umpires turned a blind eye. There is now an epidemic of these contentious and or/ non decisions which in my case have caused a kind of contempt for the state of the AFL, bordering on suspicion that more sinister aspects lurk behind the mythology of a Level Playing Field. 

    Of course the AFL have ticked off that wrong decision.

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:14, Monbon said:

    It seems to be a weekly occurrence now that games are won or lost due to crook umpiring decisions. Fer C/Sake, there's four of them now and yet yesterday two E Coli Wobblers were allowed to run over the mark of a North player and four umpires turned a blind eye. There is now an epidemic of these contentious and or/ non decisions which in my case have caused a kind of contempt for the state of the AFL, bordering on suspicion that more sinister aspects lurk behind the mythology of a Level Playing Field. 

    So what solutions do you have then, umpires can only pay what the see most times when 20 players are around the ball, do you propose we stop the game and go to the video on every decision?

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:30, demon3165 said:

    So what solutions do you have then, umpires can only pay what the see most times when 20 players are around the ball, do you propose we stop the game and go to the video on every decision?

    How about they DO pay what they see.   Thousands upon thousands can see the howlers..  There's 4 out there..   The idea is they position themselves to cover all angles.    But the weasels wuss it.

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    The only way we will see any change under the Current System is if Umpires are made available to front the Media after each game, similar to Coaches..

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:30, demon3165 said:

    So what solutions do you have then, umpires can only pay what the see most times when 20 players are around the ball, do you propose we stop the game and go to the video on every decision?

    Just read the headline: Robo stating level of umpiring is lowest...Now, I will never admit to following Robo because I don't but my point is exactly what I wrote. And, just for the record, how can 4 bloody umpires ignore 2 Collingwood players running over the mark, A, and B, I thought only one player had that role anyhow. So nobody is asking for instant replays, people like me would just like to see consistency and not what is becoming more and more obvious, that one side - especially if it includes a Daicos - gets all the breaks.

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:30, demon3165 said:

    So what solutions do you have then, umpires can only pay what the see most times when 20 players are around the ball, do you propose we stop the game and go to the video on every decision?

    Um, 20 players around the ball? What game are you referring to???

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:39, Monbon said:

    Just read the headline: Robo stating level of umpiring is lowest...Now, I will never admit to following Robo because I don't but my point is exactly what I wrote. And, just for the record, how can 4 bloody umpires ignore 2 Collingwood players running over the mark, A, and B, I thought only one player had that role anyhow. So nobody is asking for instant replays, people like me would just like to see consistency and not what is becoming more and more obvious, that one side - especially if it includes a Daicos - gets all the breaks.

    Of course media Muppets moan because they want ratings and sales mistakes are always going to be made big deal players lose more games than umpires,  don't listen to Cornes he is just a gutter opinion person, all this bagging will end up with kids not taking it up as it does filter down below.

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:40, Monbon said:

    Um, 20 players around the ball? What game are you referring to???

    Do you watch the game today it's nearly 36 players in one half of the ground it's congested.

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    Our once great sport has been tripe since the Stand Rule, No Third Man Up and nominating of Ruckmen. I used to look forward with enthusiasm to an intra club game,  preseason, all the way down on the Mornington Peninsula with the new players at the club and just for Hopes sake we may make the Finals that year. I Thank the Club for 2021 because my interest now is really waning. I've been to more NRL games than AFL games this year and that's a disgrace. 

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:39, Sir Why You Little said:

    The only way we will see any change under the Current System is if Umpires are made available to front the Media after each game, similar to Coaches..

    Need to be 100% Professional andcaccountable 

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:35, beelzebub said:

    How about they DO pay what they see.   Thousands upon thousands can see the howlers..  There's 4 out there..   The idea is they position themselves to cover all angles.    But the weasels wuss it.

    There's still too much confirmation bias in the umpiring and has been for ages. Media darling, big cub, benefit of the doubt far too often 

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    Change the rules so as to eliminate grey areas as much as possible. Get rid of knee jerk rules eg nominating ruckmen. And FFS, pay the frees when they are there!

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:46, 4_Kent_Watts said:

    the Stand Rule

    The stand rule is fine, it's just that the purpose of it has been eroded by letting players come from behind the mark & by letting others wonder through a rapidly diminishing protected area.

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:46, beelzebub said:

    Need to be 100% Professional andcaccountable 

    Of Course. There is a reason the AFL won’t put the Umps under the spotlight, it would put so many results in Jeopardy. 
    As others have said. The Stand rule is a pathetic joke. 
    Nominating a Ruckman is a joke. That is up to the players, not the Ump. If 3 players jump, then the Ump makes the call. 
    But if you had the Umpires required to front the Media after games, the standard would increase immediately 

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:51, Ollie fan said:

    Get rid of knee jerk rules

    Well, they changed the interpretation of holding the ball a couple of weeks back & it seemed to be heading down the right path.

    However it's reverting back pretty quickly (as usual) if the weekends games are the example.

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:44, demon3165 said:

    Of course media Muppets moan because they want ratings and sales mistakes are always going to be made big deal players lose more games than umpires,  don't listen to Cornes he is just a gutter opinion person, all this bagging will end up with kids not taking it up as it does filter down below.

    What they are bagging is too blatant to ignore - unless you follow the team which benefits the most from these blatant shall we call them 'mistakes'?

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:45, demon3165 said:

    Do you watch the game today it's nearly 36 players in one half of the ground it's congested.

    You imply that is the case for the whole of each game. It just ain't so...

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:54, Sir Why You Little said:

    Of Course. There is a reason the AFL won’t put the Umps under the spotlight, it would put so many results in Jeopardy. 
    As others have said. The Stand rule is a pathetic joke. 
    Nominating a Ruckman is a joke. That is up to the players, not the Ump. If 3 players jump, then the Ump makes the call. 
    But if you had the Umpires required to front the Media after games, the standard would increase immediately 

    Sorta plausible deniability...   or... umm..  dumm de dummm....  ummm   yeah nah yeah...    all move on.

    It's detestable 

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:57, Fanatique Demon said:

    Cornes is right this time. Disgraceful job by the umpires gave Collingwood the win.

    I’m just curious about why no others in the media will call this out 

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    The umps are human and will make mistakes but there are too many howlers. And they are deciding some games. I’m not sure what the answer is. 

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      On 17/06/2024 at 07:56, beelzebub said:

    Sorta plausible deniability...   or... umm..  dumm de dummm....  ummm   yeah nah yeah...    all move on.

    It's detestable 

    An Umpire representative maybe interviewed 3-4 days later, but the heat has gone out of it by then. 
    They should be in front of Cameras an hour after the game. 
    Pay them well and make them fully accountable 

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