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Kade Herbert impressed me for SA under 18s in brief display during the championships. Will see how he goes in this.  Strong midfield runner with goalkicking ability.  May not be top 5 or 6 but likely still to be a 1st rounder. 

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Good crop of youngsters there. A few names I liked this year include:-

Christian Moraes
Finn O'Sullivan
Levi Ashcroft
Jagga Smith
Harvey Langford
Josh Smillie
Tom Gross
Jesse Datolli
Isaac Kako

Thought Cooper Hynes might have gotten a gig as well but not named. A lot of small/medium mid forward types.

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Only caught the last quarter and a half but the usual suspects played very well. Fairly free flowing low pressure style game 

Moraes, O'Sullivan, Smith, Draper all got plenty of the ball and were probably the stand-outs in the limited time I watched. Ben Camporeale also had a stack of the ball and used it well.

Liked the work of Tom Gross while Jobe Shanahan and Josh Murphy look like decent taller prospects. Any info on Josh Murphy @dazzledavey36? i see he's a bushranger. Was marking the ball very well today.

Another compromised draft coming up perhaps with;

Ben and Lucas Camporeale, Ben probably the better of the Carlton f/s prospects on today's showing.

Welsh (Adelaide f/s) wasn't overly involved in the last half but kicked a goal from more or less a kick in turn over, showed his potential earlier in the year with his performance as a bottom ager in the champs.

Levi Aschroft, another Brisbane f/s and likely early selection while the Lions will also benefit from Sam Marshall as an Academy player who looms lile another great mid prospect.

Leonardo Lombard also showed something as a Gold Coast academy prospect.

Ricky Mentha and Clay Shadforth are a part of the NT academy, I wonder if either or both are apart of the Demons NGA zone. Haven't been able to ascertain that with a quick google so far.

Also academy or club linked today were -

Mitch Woods (Sydney)
Joel Cochrane (Sydney)
Joe Harrison (Sydney)
Tom Gillet (Brisbane)

At the moment, and very prematurely, I have next years top 5 as -

1. Finn O'Sullivan
2. Christian Moraes
3. Sid Draper
4. Levi Aschcroft (Brisbane f/s)
5. Jagga Smith

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Smillie should go top 10 next year. Typically a Cripps type inside mid, but just was his first game back from injury. Midfield group has a fair bit more quality and depth next year.

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1 hour ago, Nascent said:

Only caught the last quarter and a half but the usual suspects played very well. Fairly free flowing low pressure style game 

Moraes, O'Sullivan, Smith, Draper all got plenty of the ball and were probably the stand-outs in the limited time I watched. Ben Camporeale also had a stack of the ball and used it well.

Liked the work of Tom Gross while Jobe Shanahan and Josh Murphy look like decent taller prospects. Any info on Josh Murphy @dazzledavey36? i see he's a bushranger. Was marking the ball very well today.

Another compromised draft coming up perhaps with;

Ben and Lucas Camporeale, Ben probably the better of the Carlton f/s prospects on today's showing.

Welsh (Adelaide f/s) wasn't overly involved in the last half but kicked a goal from more or less a kick in turn over, showed his potential earlier in the year with his performance as a bottom ager in the champs.

Levi Aschroft, another Brisbane f/s and likely early selection while the Lions will also benefit from Sam Marshall as an Academy player who looms lile another great mid prospect.

Leonardo Lombard also showed something as a Gold Coast academy prospect.

Ricky Mentha and Clay Shadforth are a part of the NT academy, I wonder if either or both are apart of the Demons NGA zone. Haven't been able to ascertain that with a quick google so far.

Also academy or club linked today were.

Mitch Woods (syd)

Joel Cochrane (syd)

Joe Harrison (syd)

Tom Gillet (bris)

 

At the moment, and very prematurely, I have next years top 5 as.

1. Finn O'Sullivan

2. Christian Moraes

3. Sid Draper

4. Levi Aschcroft (bris f/s)

5. Jagga Smith.

I wonder if the northern states draft concessions will ever stop

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2 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

And has for the last 30 years.

Take your point, but this year's crop was projected to be lacking midfielders from a long way out. Was all about the flankers this year.

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1 hour ago, samcantstandya said:

I wonder if the northern states draft concessions will ever stop

They need to limit access to first round talent. Gold Coast getting 3 in the top 15 is ridiculous. Should be maximum of being able to match a bid once in each round in my view.

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4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

A few future stars obviously BUT again there’s the compromise of the Father/son and the AFL created academies for giants, swans , suns and the poor struggling lions 

Plus what every Tassie concessions.  Brisbane and Sydney have double win FS and NGA priority access.

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18 hours ago, Nascent said:

They need to limit access to first round talent. Gold Coast getting 3 in the top 15 is ridiculous. Should be maximum of being able to match a bid once in each round in my view.

I think it's important to get elite talent from developing states to the clubs in those states.

Take away the points discount and enforce that the first matching pick has to be within one round ie 18 picks of the bid.  Firmly re-instate that picks must equal available list spaces. That will ensure fairer value is paid.

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Carton and Lions benefit from F/S again. I’m sure there is a lost Daicos brother coming through the ranks too.
 

Seriously when are we going to get a top 5 F/S. So many top 8 teams have benefited of 2-3 top 10 picks in recent times. You just know when we get our turn they’ll be some sort of rule change. 

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1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Carton and Lions benefit from F/S again. I’m sure there is a lost Daicos brother coming through the ranks too.
 

Seriously when are we going to get a top 5 F/S. So many top 8 teams have benefited of 2-3 top 10 picks in recent times. You just know when we get our turn they’ll be some sort of rule change. 

Viney at pick 26 was a winner!! Just need more of his like.
 

Jeff White’s son may bring as much in 2 years. Kynan Brown may surprises and become a solid player too. 

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18 hours ago, Demonsterative said:

Viney at pick 26 was a winner!! Just need more of his like.
 

Jeff White’s son may bring as much in 2 years. Kynan Brown may surprises and become a solid player too. 

Yeah he was a great pick, but it doesn't compare to how much some teams have been able to benefit from the 'first access / matching' nature of F/S and academy.

 

 

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26 in the academy. 5 of them are under team academy. Then 3 father sons.  That leaves 18/26 as “available”.  Harvey Langford was very good this year for Stingrays.   Strong taller mid with good left foot disposal.  Not overawed in the contest even as an underager this year.  

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6 hours ago, Nascent said:

Our 2024 picks based on the final ladder of 2023

 

13

31 (Syd)

48 (WB)

50 (St kilda - trade on draft night)

69

 

Thanks @Nascent  I think Dees will be more active next year.  But it’s going to be compromised again by academy and father son picks.  

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On 19/11/2023 at 19:00, spirit of norm smith said:

26 in the academy. 5 of them are under team academy. Then 3 father sons.  That leaves 18/26 as “available”.  Harvey Langford was very good this year for Stingrays.   Strong taller mid with good left foot disposal.  Not overawed in the contest even as an underager this year.  

Any up and coming key defenders?

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  • Whispering_Jack changed the title to 2024 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch
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On 22/11/2023 at 08:34, roy11 said:

Any up and coming key defenders?

2024 has a lot of high quality mids.  I think the first 10 selections could be purely midfielders next year.  
As for key defenders, Noah Mraz was a youngster at Dandenong Stingrays this year. Light frame but good height and not overawed by bigger opponents.  One to keep a watch on next year. 

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My early top 10 for next year

1. Finn O'Sullivan - 181cm Vic Country 
2. Levi Ashcroft - 179cm Vic Metro (Lions F/S)
3. Sid Draper - 180cm South Australia 
4. Josh Smillie - 194cm Vic Metro 
5. Leonardo Lombard - 178cm Allies (Suns Academy) 
6. Tyler Welsh - 191 cm South Australia  (Crows F/S)
7. Jagga Smith - 181cm Vic Metro 
8. Christian Moraes - 182cm Vic Metro 
9. Tom Gross - 182cm Vic Metro 
10. Ben Camporeale - 184cm South Australia  (Carlton F/S)

This suggests that we should be looking forward to more bidding for academy and father/sons but not to the scale extent that we saw in last week’s draft.

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