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31 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

People reserve on Level 4 but choose to walk up and take a level 1/2/3 seat - hence double dipping because they have two seats and dont use the ones on level 4.

As of last year, on Grand Final day, if you were successful in the MCC GF ballot you could not enter the ground until after 12pm. As such, they deactivated the member barcode that was attached to the reserved seat in the ballot. Otherwise, a member with a reserved seat from the ballot could walk up and take a better seat on the day.

Okay - understand now.

MCC members with a reserved seat can't enter until 12pm because presumably all unreserved seats would be taken by then. Very tricky.

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9 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

Collingwood would have had 80% of the AFL reserve and we had 80% of the MCC. That's not why the crowd was so one sided.

The club allocations start at 50:50 but do not finish at 50:50 because bays get reallocated. Calrton ended up with 70% of the public reserve and so they will have around 70% of the crowd.

Seems about right actually. And probably what it was last Thursday.

 

Capacity: 100k

 

Club member allocation: 25% (25k)

- Melbourne: 12.5k

- Carlton: 12.5k

 

AFL Reserve: 30% (30k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 3k

- Carlton 20k

- Neutrals: 7k

 

MCC: 23% (23k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 15,400

- Carlton: 6k

- Neutrals: 2,600

 

GA: 22% (22k)

Estimated: 

- Carlton: 17,600

- Melbourne, 4,400

 

Totals: 

Melbourne: 35,300

Carlton: 56,100

Neutrals: 9,600

 

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3 hours ago, praha said:

Seems about right actually. And probably what it was last Thursday.

 

Capacity: 100k

 

Club member allocation: 25% (25k)

- Melbourne: 12.5k

- Carlton: 12.5k

 

AFL Reserve: 30% (30k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 3k

- Carlton 20k

- Neutrals: 7k

 

MCC: 23% (23k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 15,400

- Carlton: 6k

- Neutrals: 2,600

 

GA: 22% (22k)

Estimated: 

- Carlton: 17,600

- Melbourne, 4,400

 

Totals: 

Melbourne: 35,300

Carlton: 56,100

Neutrals: 9,600

 

Hope the neutrals come on board the Demon machine. (Would help if we get off to a good start)

Really want to neutralise Carlton gaining the ‘19th man advantage’  

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18 minutes ago, praha said:

Seems about right actually. And probably what it was last Thursday.

 

Capacity: 100k

 

Club member allocation: 25% (25k)

- Melbourne: 12.5k

- Carlton: 12.5k

 

AFL Reserve: 30% (30k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 3k

- Carlton 20k

- Neutrals: 7k

 

MCC: 23% (23k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 15,400

- Carlton: 6k

- Neutrals: 2,600

 

GA: 22% (22k)

Estimated: 

- Carlton: 17,600

- Melbourne, 4,400

 

Totals: 

Melbourne: 35,300

Carlton: 56,100

Neutrals: 9,600

 

Why do you have GA at 17k to 4k

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36 minutes ago, praha said:

Seems about right actually. And probably what it was last Thursday.

 

Capacity: 100k

 

Club member allocation: 25% (25k)

- Melbourne: 12.5k

- Carlton: 12.5k

 

AFL Reserve: 30% (30k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 3k

- Carlton 20k

- Neutrals: 7k

 

MCC: 23% (23k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 15,400

- Carlton: 6k

- Neutrals: 2,600

 

GA: 22% (22k)

Estimated: 

- Carlton: 17,600

- Melbourne, 4,400

 

Totals: 

Melbourne: 35,300

Carlton: 56,100

Neutrals: 9,600

 

No completely incorrect. 
 

afl is 22K of which 5k is medallion club

mcc 23k.

Club allocation is about 45k and the remaining 5k are corporates.

Don’t know where your ga number is coming from there is no GA, there were about 1000 tickets left over from the member allocations and today there were none.

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I couldn't believe my luck. I got in within a few minutes! However most of the seats seemed to have been exhausted. I managed to grab a couple of tickets in M2 behind the goals. 

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I find it hard to cop that someone has decided that the forward pockets are considered Catergory 1 tickets and sell the same as Level 2, especially when bays next to them are Catergory 2 and are selling cheaper.

There are plenty of bays up on level 2 that should be allocated to Premium Demons supporters first as it is our home game.  No different to how we have to sit GA on away games during the regular season.  Absolute [censored] system.

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2 hours ago, Wodjathefirst said:

The reason for my concern is very simple.  If we are grossly outnumbered (which appears to be a possibility) what concerns me greatly what the ‘Carlton 19th man’ impact may  have on our playing group. If that concerns you that I am concerned about how many dee fans may turn up or you find that offensive, stiff. It’s just an opinion!

What did GWS have last weekend 10 or 15% of the crowd. Didn’t seem to stop them playing great footy and winning. If we play our best footy it won’t matter how many where outnumbered by. If we play dumb footy and don’t take our chances that’s a different story. 

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13 minutes ago, Jerry Lundergard said:

I find it hard to cop that someone has decided that the forward pockets are considered Catergory 1 tickets and sell the same as Level 2, especially when bays next to them are Catergory 2 and are selling cheaper.

There are plenty of bays up on level 2 that should be allocated to Premium Demons supporters first as it is our home game.  No different to how we have to sit GA on away games during the regular season.  Absolute [censored] system.

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Im not sure your seating map is correct. 

On this map https://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/mcg/seating-map the Cat 1 bays on level 1 extend from the 50m arc to the wing.

I assume all Cat 1 to Cat 7 seats are split 50/50 as it should be. 

I also assume there's very few level 2 seats available to (Premium) members as they have been allocated to coterie groups, sponsors, etc. Players are allocated 4 tickets and have access to 6 more (as I understand). Fair chance they're Cat 1.

 

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4 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

What waffling rubbish

"not as passionate and rusted as we would like to think we are" ???

Seriously, speak for yourself only.

Of course the diehards are as passionate and rusted on, but we have fewer of the passionate and rusted on. It's not really a controversial statement by @Wodjathefirst

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3 hours ago, wobbie said:

I doubt it's 50/50, from what I gather, their system will adjust access based on demand? So if 5 times the amount of Carlton members are trying to buy, it will open up more access for Carlton people. In the end there will be 65,000 Blues fans which probably reflects the level of demand from each supporter base this morning, so it's kind of fair?

That would be idiotic considering their "queue" can't determine who is waiting to purchase tickets let alone is completely random and not actually a queue. Sure once sales close reallocate if needed but give members the chance to buy in that window first FCS.

Let's say there 50k Melbourne and 50k Carlton supporters trying to access tickets all at once but due to a quirk in the system 15k Carlton supporters get through in the first 15 minutes but only 5k Melbourne supporters do - that doesn't mean there is less demand just less capacity to access the tickets due to their ****ty system.

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3 hours ago, praha said:

Seems about right actually. And probably what it was last Thursday.

 

Capacity: 100k

 

Club member allocation: 25% (25k)

- Melbourne: 12.5k

- Carlton: 12.5k

 

AFL Reserve: 30% (30k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 3k

- Carlton 20k

- Neutrals: 7k

 

MCC: 23% (23k)

Estimated:

- Melbourne: 15,400

- Carlton: 6k

- Neutrals: 2,600

 

GA: 22% (22k)

Estimated: 

- Carlton: 17,600

- Melbourne, 4,400

 

Totals: 

Melbourne: 35,300

Carlton: 56,100

Neutrals: 9,600

 

I think your GA split is a bit too one sided towards Carlton. To say Carlton has a 4:1 ratio of supporters is a bit far fetched. I think it’s probably more 8k Melbourne and 12k Carlton. 
 

I know the roar was loud with Collingwood but the roar of that first Fritsch goal was a lot more than 35k people. 

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

That would be idiotic considering their "queue" can't determine who is waiting to purchase tickets let alone is completely random and not actually a queue. Sure once sales close reallocate if needed but give members the chance to buy in that window first FCS.

Let's say there 50k Melbourne and 50k Carlton supporters trying to access tickets all at once but due to a quirk in the system 15k Carlton supporters get through in the first 15 minutes but only 5k Melbourne supporters do - that doesn't mean there is less demand just less capacity to access the tickets due to their ****ty system.

a simple solution would be to ask you for your membership club before waiting in the queue. it's not hard

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1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

That would be idiotic considering their "queue" can't determine who is waiting to purchase tickets let alone is completely random and not actually a queue. Sure once sales close reallocate if needed but give members the chance to buy in that window first FCS.

Let's say there 50k Melbourne and 50k Carlton supporters trying to access tickets all at once but due to a quirk in the system 15k Carlton supporters get through in the first 15 minutes but only 5k Melbourne supporters do - that doesn't mean there is less demand just less capacity to access the tickets due to their ****ty system.

Yes but be realistic please, there will have been 3 times the demand from Carlton supporters because they are probably three times the size of us and they are up and about. Think its very reasonable to expect that there would have been more Carlton supporters in the queue

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1 hour ago, FearTheBeard said:

Yes but be realistic please, there will have been 3 times the demand from Carlton supporters because they are probably three times the size of us and they are up and about. Think its very reasonable to expect that there would have been more Carlton supporters in the queue

Maybe, but once you remove MCC/AFL members there are, what 55k tickets left for sale to members? 50/50 split means 27.5k MFC members, surely we would fill that allocation? If we don't, fine release them to CFC members the next day but at least give us the opportunity to purchase them before the 4 hour window expires.

If there are 30k MFC members and 90k CFC members after tickets doesn't give them a right to our allocation just because there is more of them. Especially when reallocations are happening within 30-45 minutes if tickets going on sale when many members were still in the queue and hadn't had a chance to purchase tickets yet.

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10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Maybe, but once you remove MCC/AFL members there are, what 55k tickets left for sale to members? 50/50 split means 27.5k MFC members, surely we would fill that allocation? If we don't, fine release them to CFC members the next day but at least give us the opportunity to purchase them before the 4 hour window expires.

If there are 30k MFC members and 90k CFC members after tickets doesn't give them a right to our allocation just because there is more of them. Especially when reallocations are happening within 30-45 minutes if tickets going on sale when many members were still in the queue and hadn't had a chance to purchase tickets yet.

Exactly this. It shouldn't matter what the demand in the system is. The window of ticket availability for members is there, and we are entitled to our rightful allocation rather than having tickets reallocated within the first hour of availability. Why even bother having the allocation if they are going to do this? One part of purchasing a club membership is the benefit it gives you in terms of finals tickets access.

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