July 5, 20231 yr On 7/4/2023 at 10:57 AM, DistrACTION Jackson said: So if we look at the current ladder positions we have picks 8, 15, 26 & 33 as our top 4 picks. Gold Coast currently have pick 7 and need points, points and more points. Picks 15 & 26 are worth 1841 points and pick 7 is worth 1644. Without a doubt we know this and it is highly likely we will have 2 top 10 picks in this draft, assuming Freo and GC both miss the 8. So then the question is who would we likely take at picks 7 and 8.... which will be pushed out by the GC academy guys. Think we will have to pay a lot more to get Suns top 10 pick. We won’t be the only ones chasing it. Pick 33 might be enough to get the above deal done and if the Suns end up with a higher draft pick then we may need to use future picks. We could also spilt picks with other clubs and increase our over points value before dealing with the Suns.
July 8, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Roost it far said: Shouldn’t we be trading up for Jed Walker? He's tied to the Suns via their academy and they will match any bid for him.
July 8, 20231 yr 4 hours ago, Nascent said: He's tied to the Suns via their academy and they will match any bid for him. Their list is going to be epic. No wonder Hardwick wants to coach them. Edited July 8, 20231 yr by Roost it far
July 8, 20231 yr 14 minutes ago, Roost it far said: Their list is going to be epic. No wonder Hardwick wants to coach them. They have 3 academy players currently rated in the top 10 of this years draft by ESPN. It’s starting to be a very compromised draft. Four academy players( 3 suns and 1 swan), 2 farther/son currently rated in the top 20 and two highly rated boys from Tassie.
July 8, 20231 yr 4 minutes ago, Colm said: They have 3 academy players currently rated in the top 10 of this years draft by ESPN. It’s starting to be a very compromised draft. Four academy players( 3 suns and 1 swan), 2 farther/son currently rated in the top 20 and two highly rated boys from Tassie. The fact it’s so compromised again means we’d be better off trading up to pick 1 for a bonafide star than getting in a few less than stellar talents IMO.
July 8, 20231 yr 5 minutes ago, Lord Travis said: The fact it’s so compromised again means we’d be better off trading up to pick 1 for a bonafide star than getting in a few less than stellar talents IMO. Maybe, probably depend what pick we get from Freo and how many bolters there are over the next few months. I thought Duursma was our man but the two games I’ve seen of him lately he hasn’t been amazing. But he could be gettable around Freo’s pick now. On the other hand if you put Reid in along side Trac, Clarry and Viney it would be a sight to behold
July 8, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Colm said: They have 3 academy players currently rated in the top 10 of this years draft by ESPN. It’s starting to be a very compromised draft. Four academy players( 3 suns and 1 swan), 2 farther/son currently rated in the top 20 and two highly rated boys from Tassie. Plus a possible top 20 or close to for Mc Cabe (Hawks) and Croft (Bullies). Kynan Brown works hard and gets in the best players on a regular basis. Like most players coming through probably needs 2 or 3 of AFL pre seasons to build his game and body to cope with AFL. Positives for Kynan are he knows how to find the ball on a regular basis, works hard and is pretty well fearless. So plenty to work with. He will be picked up late in the draft IMO.
July 8, 20231 yr With the 20% discount for Academy players the GC will save a heap on points required. For example if Walter is nominated at pick 2 that is worth 2527 points. GC match and pick him up for 2014 points. If Read (Jackson comparison) gets bid at say pick 5 1878 points. GC will match at 1502 points. Say Rogers (mid) gets a bid at pick 10 1395 points. GC matches at 1116 points. Savings = 279 ponts. TOTAL savings = 1168 points = circa pick 14. Not a bad deal to get 3 top 10 ranked picks plus a huge points savings on top. This will vary depending on where bids fall. If the GC make the finals they can only match 2 bids in round one. Certainly worth the Dees having a shot at the GC first round pick. They have already banked a few and will probably want a deal involving future swap (our future 1st for their future 2nd) plus our 2023 second rounder/s (ours and maybe Freos). Just a guess. Then we will package our picks in a bid to go higher at the pointy end. 2024 sees CAP relief with Tommo, TMc and BB possibly all finishing up so we can bid for a free agent instead of having a first round pick. If we a deal this year with GC we may end up with their 2nd rounder next year along with ours.
July 9, 20231 yr 1st qtr. Vic country v Allies. VC Zane Duursma already impressed in first qtr. Beautiful goal showed his class. De Mattia good in close with contested footy. Joel Freijah on the wing showing good skills and ball winning Allies Jake Rogers small but powerful onballer is impressive again Ryley Sanders class and pace on show Caiden Cleary very good onballer winning lots of the footy Dees young academy (South Alice Springs) Orlando Turner is a forward pocket player and kicked a nice goal from 35 metres out albeit after a dubious free kick Lots of Swans, Giants, Lions Ana Suns Academy youngsters in show Harley Reid strangely again being played at full forward Jed Walter always looks dangerous with height, strength and pace at full forward. Suns can get rid of Ben King and bring this kid in.
July 9, 20231 yr 2nd qtr Allies Ethan Reid ruck big strong and athletic (GC suns) Coby Mckercher another Tassie mid good af the contest and smart ball user VC George Stevens mid utility solid strong can play fwd/mid/back Darcy Wilson nice tackle and goal but relatively quiet Will Dawson full back cutting off numerous attacks with intercept marks
July 9, 20231 yr 3rd quarter VC Harley Reid much better in midfield rotation (wasted up forward) burst of pace and intensity shows his top 3 ranking Finn O’Sullivan mid/half fwd/half back good skills, good aerial overhead and decision making Archer Reid 203cm young tall forward/ruck - nice work rate and kicked a good snap goal Kade De La Rue strong running mid sized half back and skills Allies Coby Mckercher again showed his class with two beautiful goals on the run including one on a difficult angle Will Graham tall 190cm utility mid can play half back good skills and tackling Connor O’Sullivan big tall defender, good mark and smart use Caiden Cleary accumulator midfield type small in and under got the ball out to the runners
July 9, 20231 yr 4th VC Darcy Wilson kicked nice running goal to show pace and skills Michael Rudd versatile utility/fwd, good mark, Ollie Henry type Allies Harvey Thomas left foot small defender quarterback type using skills Orlando Turner kicked the match winner , quiet all day but has burst of pace and looks like he knows where the goals are. Probably rookie pick at best.
July 9, 20231 yr The Allies will be the National Champions for the first time after beating Vic Country today. Vic Metro’s annihilation of WA won’t be enough to give them a chance of winning the competition even if they beat Vic Country in the final game next week. Tassie gun fires as the Wizard bags five in a half Melbourne father/son hopeful Kynan Brown did no harm to his draft prospects. “Melbourne father-son prospect Kynan Brown, the son of former Demon Nathan, was impressive with 26 disposals, six clearances and one goal in the midfield for Vic Metro.”
July 9, 20231 yr Author Cream rises to the top as Allies claim maiden title VIC COUNTRY 3.2.20 6.4.40 7.5.47 10.10 (70) ALLIES 2.3.15 5.4.34 10.8.68 12.9 (81) GOALS: Vic Country: Z. Duursma 2, M. Rudd 2, D. Wilson 2, G. Stevens, S. Lalor, A. Read, F. O’Sullivan Allies: J. Walter 2, P. Gothard 2, C. McKercher 2, O. Turner 2, J. Glanvill, J. Callinan, T. Gander, C. McCormack BEST: Vic Country: F. O’Sullivan, A. Hastie, A. Reid, W. Dawson, G. Stevens, D. Wilson Allies: C. Cleary, C. McKercher, R. Sanders, E. Read, J. Rogers, C. O’Sullivan VICTORIA METRO 5.1.31 10.5.64 14.10.94 19.13 (127) WESTERN AUSTRALIA 1.3.9 2.5.17 5.6.36 6.10 (46) GOALS: Victoria Metro: N. Watson 5, L. Morris 4, N. Caddy 3, C. Harrop 2, K. Brown, T. Hotton, R. Weatherill, C. Windsor, H. Johnston Western Australia: K. Sanchez 3, K. Dehavilland, E. Logan, R. Torrent BEST: Victoria Metro: L. Morris, N. Watson, W. Brown, K. Brown, H. Johnston, C. Windsor Western Australia: D. Curtin, K. Sanchez, C. Hall, K. Tholstrup, A. O’Driscoll, R. Torrent
July 9, 20231 yr Watched 3/4 of the Vic country, Allies game. Small sample size but I wouldn’t be giving 3 first round picks for Harley Reid. Played a forward for a bit but when he did go into the middle he didn’t look as good as 3 of the Allies mids in Cleary, Mckercher and Sanders. Cleary is tied to the Swans and the other two are from Tassie but if McKercher is on the board at our first pick I’d be surprised if we didn’t grab him.
July 9, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, Roost it far said: Who’s currently expected to go at pick 6? After academy bids etc are taken out. espn power rankings - https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/37956903/afl-draft-power-rankings-july-2023-jasper-chellappah-allies-dominate-top-20-jed-walter-closes-harley-reid so they have duursma
July 10, 20231 yr I missed the first quarter yesterday and Duursma scored his two goals by the time I tunes in. I kept a good eye on him and wasn’t all that impressed. Doesn’t like to run when the other team has the ball. Noticed a few times the ball was turned over when he was close by and just gave up on it when he could have impacted the play. I liked the game Darcy Wilson played. Covers the ground well. Edited July 10, 20231 yr by Colm
July 10, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said: espn power rankings - https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/37956903/afl-draft-power-rankings-july-2023-jasper-chellappah-allies-dominate-top-20-jed-walter-closes-harley-reid so they have duursma Bizarre to compare Ryley Sanders (aka The Colonel) to Tim Taranto. He’s nothing like Taranto. Sanders is the closest type to Will Ashcroft. He has pace. He has skill. He runs and runs. He is a smart user of the footy. Actually after the weekends match, I’d now switch and choose him over Duursma if the pick was today and both were available. Duursma is all class and more outside. He was superb in the first quarter yesterday then went missing for the rest of the day. Sanders was strong equally inside and outside, with a full 4 quarter effort and kicked two impressive running goals.
July 10, 20231 yr 4 hours ago, Roost it far said: Who’s currently expected to go at pick 6? After academy bids etc are taken out. I believe 1 of Duursma, Caddy, Mckercher, Sanders or Curtin will be available at pick 6. So no doubt JT and the footy department are working through the possibilities Edited July 10, 20231 yr by Pennant St Dee
July 10, 20231 yr 2 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said: I believe 1 of Duursma, Caddy, Mckercher, Sanders or Curtin will be available at pick 6. So no doubt JT and the footy department are working through the possibilities i reckon flagmantle are every chance of dropping down to 15th on the ladder, which would be pick 4
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