Coates Talent League 2023

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15 hours ago, daisycutter said:

hmmm ... 3v years older than moses

Kyah is an alternative spelling of Kiya, one of the wives of Pharoah Akhenaten. And Farris is likely the anglo-saxon spelling of Pharoah*.

 

*Not necessarily factually correct

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The Coates League has reached the finals stage. This is the ladder at the end of the home and away season.

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This weekend sees a Wild Card round including all teams except for the Tassie Devils who finished on top for the first time in their history and the northern state academies who took part in a limited number of matches throughout the season.

The finals system for the Coates Boys League is explained in this article -

Explainer: Coates Talent League Wildcard Round

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Zane Duursma has been running into a rich vein of form at the right end of the season. The word is that the Hawks will grab him at Pick 3.

Gippsland gun snatches RMC Medal in final round

 

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PREVIEW | 2023 Coates Talent League – Quarter Finals

ONES TO WATCH

Oakleigh’s midfield rotation has caught fire in recent weeks, headlined by a trio of bottom-agers in Finn O’Sullivan, Jagga Smith and Tom Gross. That’s not to mention Kynan Brown fresh off a five-goal haul, Will Lorenz out on a wing, and Harvey Thomas as a potential wildcard.

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Young Kynan added another 2 goals to go along with 20 touches and at least 1 goal assist in a narrow loss. 

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Draft Central’s Coates Talent Team of the Year announced with Kynan Brown named on the half forward flank.

[whatwhat say what 19,667]

why is brown not even being spoken of as one of the best performing and most highly credentialed kids coming thru @Whispering_Jack?

general consensus seems to be he'll be a last picked / rookie pick for us, which seems like a bargain for a team of the year AND vic metro b&f winner...

[DeeSpencer 23,459]

2 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

why is brown not even being spoken of as one of the best performing and most highly credentialed kids coming thru @Whispering_Jack?

general consensus seems to be he'll be a last picked / rookie pick for us, which seems like a bargain for a team of the year AND vic metro b&f winner...

Watch the tape.

Fumbly under pressure and can’t play through contact. Any threat of being tackled and he’s hot potato-ing the ball away.

Stiff as a board, doesn’t bend his knees and looks like his spine is in traction  

Incredibly left sided. Not sure he’s turned on to his right once in 40+ touches.

Limited athlete, no penetration in his kicking, no power, not tall, average speed.

Aside from a lovely 15-25m hit up kick there’s not much that’s conducive to afl footy. They’ll have to completely retrain his approach to the contest and that’s very hard with a guy who’s been playing footy all his life in the top juniors.

Work rate, professionalism and ability to find the pill gives him a chance but as a defensive runner (forward or mid) more than anything. He’s coming in to the system as a role player and a top 40 pick for that is unlikely. 

 

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Bit harsh on him I reckon DeeSpencer. Sure there were some clangers and poor decisions but, there were equally if not more examples of good reading of the play, clean pickups and some handball work that would make Clarrie Oliver proud. Looks handy to me. 

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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

Watch the tape.

Fumbly under pressure and can’t play through contact. Any threat of being tackled and he’s hot potato-ing the ball away.

Stiff as a board, doesn’t bend his knees and looks like his spine is in traction  

Incredibly left sided. Not sure he’s turned on to his right once in 40+ touches.

Limited athlete, no penetration in his kicking, no power, not tall, average speed.

Aside from a lovely 15-25m hit up kick there’s not much that’s conducive to afl footy. They’ll have to completely retrain his approach to the contest and that’s very hard with a guy who’s been playing footy all his life in the top juniors.

Work rate, professionalism and ability to find the pill gives him a chance but as a defensive runner (forward or mid) more than anything. He’s coming in to the system as a role player and a top 40 pick for that is unlikely. 

 

Or alternatively ...

He can win the ball, has a nice turn of pace, has good vision, lightning quick hands, can hit a target like Salem, a willing tackler.  Probably a late 2nd or 3rd rounder.

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1 hour ago, old55 said:

Or alternatively ...

He can win the ball, has a nice turn of pace, has good vision, lightning quick hands, can hit a target like Salem, a willing tackler.  Probably a late 2nd or 3rd rounder.

I prefer this to the MFCSS of ol mate

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The Eastern Ranges caused a major upset in their Coates League Preliminary Final yesterday when they beat the highly fancied Tasmania Devils by 40 points. 

They will meet reigning premiers Sandringham Dragons in the boys Grand Final next weekend. The Dragons overcame the Geelong Falcons by 34 points but the scores were close right up until midway through the final term.

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Grand final date and time confirmed. U18 Boys final will be curtain raiser to the VFL GF at Ikon Park (11:15 start).

Free entry if you arrive before half time (will have to pay for VFL GF ticket if you get there after h/t).

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Charlie Edwards and Ryley Sanders again starred for Sandringham. Two to definitely watch on Grand Final day.

Can’t believe AFL will even consider Sanders as a NGA gift to Kangas.  Rules change like the winds in AFL house.  

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Scouting Notes: Coates Talent League Preliminary Final 1

Scouting Notes: Coates Talent League Preliminary Final 2

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9 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Charlie Edwards and Ryley Sanders again starred for Sandringham. Two to definitely watch on Grand Final day.

Can’t believe AFL will even consider Sanders as a NGA gift to Kangas.  Rules change like the winds in AFL house.  

The problem the AFL has with gifting Sanders to North Melbourne as an NGA is that they have to tamper with two of the rules applicable to NGAs. They have to include Sanders into the system which involves development and training with the club over a number of years, not a few weeks as would be the case here. Then they would have to give North the added advantage of the right to match a bid for him inside the top 40 selections. This sort of compromising of the draft system would be seen by many observers as a bridge too far if not outrightly corrupt. 

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if north get pick 2 for being ordinary, pick 3 for mckay signing a mega-deal elsewhere, sanders as an nga for free AND a mid first round pick for being ordinary...it would be one of the greatest daylight robberies of all time

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@Pennant St Dee here’s the replay of Eastern’s prelim win over Tasmania:

Prospects of interest are Watson & Windsor at Eastern, For Tasmania McKercher made his comeback from injury, Leake, Schoenmaker & Callinan also have draftable qualities. Leake in particular has gained momentum over the season.

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by ChaserJ

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1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

@Pennant St Dee here’s the replay of Eastern’s prelim win over Tasmania:

Prospects of interest are Watson & Windsor at Eastern, For Tasmania McKercher made his comeback from injury, Leake, Schoenmaker & Callinan also have draftable qualities. Leake in particular has gained momentum over the season.

 

Thanks mate, appreciated 

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4 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

if north get pick 2 for being ordinary, pick 3 for mckay signing a mega-deal elsewhere, sanders as an nga for free AND a mid first round pick for being ordinary...it would be one of the greatest daylight robberies of all time

Not to mention they already received two early second rounders from this draft last year. 

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No idea where he's been but that's a first round pick, maybe even top 10. Sign me up.

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Edwards had been a half back in a pretty stacked Dragons outfit. Moved to midfield in 2nd half of the season and is coming home like a freight train. Will be watching closely on Sunday, he’s a bolter.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1009974/giants-move-to-extend-ruck-swans-in-talks-with-guns-port-defender-re-signs/amp

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THE 2023 Coates Talent League awards night was held this week.

There was a tie for the Morrish Medal for the third year in a row. This time, midfielders Patrick Hughes (Geelong Falcons) and Colby McKercher (Tasmania Devils) each finished with 18 votes while George Stevens (GWV Rebels) came third on 16 votes. Stevens was also announced as Team of the Year captain.

Melbourne father/son prospect Kynan Brown was named in the Team as an interchange.

2023 COATES TALENT LEAGUE TEAM OF THE YEAR

B Billy Wilson (Dandenong Stingrays) Ollie Murphy (Sandringham Dragons) James Leake (Tasmania Devils)
HB George Stevens (GWV Rebels) (c) Connor O’Sullivan (Murray Bushrangers) Archie Roberts (Sandringham Dragons)
C Joel Freijah (GWV Rebels) Levi Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons) Colby McKercher (Tasmania Devils)
HF Darcy Wilson (Murray Bushrangers) Jordan Croft (Calder Cannons) Zane Duursma (Gippsland Power)
F Nick Watson (Eastern Ranges) Logan Morris (Western Jets) Nate Caddy (Northern Knights)
FOLL Will Green (Northern Knights) Harley Reid (Bendigo Pioneers) Ryley Sanders (Tasmania Devils)
I/C Kynan Brown (Oakleigh Chargers) Harry De Mattia (Dandenong Stingrays) Patrick Hughes (Geelong Falcons) Luamon Lual (GWV Rebels) Finn O’Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers) Michael Rudd (Geelong Falcons)

Winners | 2023 Coates Talent League Boys awards night

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Any of our draft watchers seen much of Will Dawson? I only saw him play to games in defence for Vic country and was impressed. Tall, big body can intercept. I’m just wondering if we don’t manage to get O’Sullivan who else we could target as a KPD. 
The 15-40 range seems very hard to predict this year. You would have to be confident that JT could find a gem in that range. I’m hoping we hold onto our early second round pick.