52 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

You're saying he's pencil-thin?  

And does he lead well?

Edited May 19, 20241 yr by Timothy Reddan-A'Blew

On second thoughts, don't worry; it was a dead rubber.

3 hours ago, Wizard of Koz said:

Am I jumping to conclusions by anticipating that this is another  "Jimmy to Prahran and back" situation evolving front of our eyes.

If it is, it will be a miraculous get by JT.

But seriously, learning the craft, getting plenty of game time, gaining confidence at a lower level and continuing to develop physically is what Kyah needs, to give him his best chance at making it in the AFL.

3 hours ago, Wizard of Koz said:

Am I jumping to conclusions by anticipating that this is another  "Jimmy to Prahran and back" situation evolving front of our eyes.

...as I, too, was reminded, per my earlier post, Wiz.

Noting @poita's report, KFW has a way to go to match Jim's 1986 report card:

"1986: Stynes is sent to VFA club Prahran to compete at senior level. Coach John Northey describes Stynes as a “loan” to Prahran. Stynes takes some time to adapt, given his rawness, but he soon shows outstanding endurance and great potential as a ruckman. He plays 12 matches for Prahran and finishes runner-up in the best and fairest. Stynes is named Prahran’s best finals player."

At a guess there would be about four hundred ruckmen better than this guy in Victoria alone, bush leagues, local leagues, retired veterans, pensioners.

His eyes are dead.Like he has no soul.I like it.

Time to say no.  He never looked like he had an idea 

I really don't know 

I went down to watch KFW against St Bedes with his family. It might be Premier B but he played on 6’11 Angus Milham and broke even in the ruck. I thought he impacted the match at times in ways that demonstrated his agility and would serve him well at any level in the future.

It’s true that he is learning positioning and needs strength but ultimately he is a 20 year old cat B. It makes him a fairly unique proposition. He’s gone back to the VAFA and shown that as and underdeveloped prospect learning the game that he’s already influential. Featuring in the best twice and I think he should have got in the best last week too with 2 goals and 20 disposals. 
 

As for his fitness, he’s wrestling a 6’11 guy in the ruck with the league hit out record and I believe notching 15k. In the third quarter he had a big knee to quad and waved off the trainer and ran through it. Still collecting 10 marks and 20 odd disposals. The footage will show that he had an impact. 

I went down to Brindisi Street reserve to watch SBMT take on De La Salle on Saturday. DLS currently sit fourth in a very even top 8, SBMT remain winless and last. SBMT had their best game of the year and led for the most part, conceding the match winning goal in the last minute or so of play. 

Kyah had some good moments early in the ruck and around the ground against two much smaller, but stronger opponents, generally when he was able to jump at the footy. Once again he was pushed off the ball far too easily once his leap was taken away, and his second efforts were non existent. 

His best and worst moment happened mid way through the second quarter when he took an excellent contested mark on the wing. After going back over the mark he inexplicably tried to run round the man on the mark and appeared to hurt his lower leg in the resulting tackle. He was on and off the ground for the remainder of the quarter without impact.

He played the entire second half taking the centre bounce then heading to the forward goal square. I doubt he had a clean hit out for the entire half and he certainly didn't have a possession that I saw. Even when SBMT was desperately trying to extend their lead in the last few minutes, he didn't leave the goal square to compete at ball ups or fill a gap in the field. It was a completely bizarre situation, but one that further indicated to me that he simply doesn't have the thirst for the contest, notwithstanding the leg issue. 

I am absolutely convinced that you can either teach a category B rookie the game or develop them physically, you can't do both as we have tried to do with Kyah and Austin Bradtke before him. The likes of Mason Cox and Mark Blicavz at least were physically ready when they were learning the game, so could step into the VFL and compete.

On 20/05/2024 at 00:23, AboveTheParallel said:

As for his fitness, he’s wrestling a 6’11 guy in the ruck with the league hit out record and I believe notching 15k. In the third quarter he had a big knee to quad and waved off the trainer and ran through it. Still collecting 10 marks and 20 odd disposals. The footage will show that he had an impact. 

Serious question, do you see anything that would suggest he can make it as an AFL player, and how long do you give him to get to that point? Because it is a much lower risk to go and get a Liam Reidy from Fremantle or a Ned Moyle from Gold Coast when we're looking for Gawn's replacement in a year or two.

That's a pretty thoughtful and analytical summary Poita. Sadly I thought Kyah was a bust from day one and he has done nothing to disabuse me of that view .Really a strange drafting .

 

I don't see it at all from this guy. Physically or game wise.

Bit of a confusing list decision to bring him in ...

19 hours ago, kallangurdemon said:

That's a pretty thoughtful and analytical summary Poita. Sadly I thought Kyah was a bust from day one and he has done nothing to disabuse me of that view .Really a strange drafting .

 

From “day one”????😳

33 minutes ago, kozzyisalegend said:

Bit of a confusing list decision to bring him in ...

There’s a heap of those 

19 hours ago, poita said:

He played the entire second half taking the centre bounce then heading to the forward goal square. I doubt he had a clean hit out for the entire half and he certainly didn't have a possession that I saw. Even when SBMT was desperately trying to extend their lead in the last few minutes, he didn't leave the goal square to compete at ball ups or fill a gap in the field. It was a completely bizarre situation, but one that further indicated to me that he simply doesn't have the thirst for the contest, notwithstanding the leg issue. 

You mean the ball was at the other end and they just had 17 on 18? Did he man just sit with him or zone off? Could he run at all?

This seems like bush league stuff.

This kid should’ve played a full year of the best under 19’s footy he could find last year then be moved up grades this year.

He played 8 vfl games last year! 

Why wasn’t he sent down and brought through the grades at an appropriate level for a Cat B rookie?