New rule of the week.

It is fine to pile drive a player's head into the ground, then with another player attack him on the ground, by punching or forcing your fists into his face ( see picture in Herald Sun ), and then have the opposition Captain come in and drive his elbow into his face/head, if that player has made public comments about the opposition.

Just pathetic and laughed at by the commentators, calling it a sign that the Pies had come to play.

Bonus new rule is, the  side with the loudest supporters, will be given all the time they need to dispose of the ball when tackled, while other side will be subject to split second opportunity.

 

Edited August 6, 20222 yr by Redleg

Pretty much. Umps don't like to be booed so whatever will stop that.

20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

New rule of the week.

It is fine to pile drive a player's head into the ground, then with another player attack him on the ground, by punching or forcing your fists into his face ( see picture in Herald Sun ), and then have the opposition Captain come in and drive his elbow into his face/head, if that player has made public comments about the opposition.

Just pathetic and laughed at by the commentators, calling it a sign that the Pies had come to play.

Bonus new rule is, the  side with the loudest supporters, will be given all the time they need to dispose of the ball when tackled, while other side will be subject to split second opportunity.

 

Yeah it was a sling tackle on Langdon. I could see his head bounce off the ground. Then all pile in and pummel his head. There should have been a free + 50 metre penalty. The umpires should have been aware this was likely to happen. Set a pattern for the whole game, umpire to the hype and blood thirsty mob.

Edited August 6, 20222 yr by John Crow Batty

On 8/6/2022 at 12:19 PM, Redleg said:

New rule of the week.

It is fine to pile drive a player's head into the ground, then with another player attack him on the ground, by punching or forcing your fists into his face ( see picture in Herald Sun ), and then have the opposition Captain come in and drive his elbow into his face/head, if that player has made public comments about the opposition.

Just pathetic and laughed at by the commentators, calling it a sign that the Pies had come to play.

Bonus new rule is, the  side with the loudest supporters, will be given all the time they need to dispose of the ball when tackled, while other side will be subject to split second opportunity.

 

That's not quite the new rule.  It has the proviso that all that is fine only if the player being attacked has made a controversial comment during the preceding week.

It was also ok to fly for a "unrealistic attempt to mark" which we got pinged for a few times last week. 

If Ed had picked his words better it would have been a free kick. It’s a source of entertainment. I could have told you that was going to happen.

Keep our mouth shut, don’t be the story, do your job. It’s boring, but it’s what makes it easier for the umpires to do their job. They literally changed the rules because people hate Ginnivan. Don’t be hateable.

In a marking contest its ok to put your hands in the back of your opponent and forcibly work them under the ball (see Ben Brown) unless your name is Harrison Petty

2 hours ago, sue said:

That's not quite the new rule.  It has the proviso that all that is fine only if the player being attacked has made a controversial comment during the preceding week.

That’s what I said.

Disgraceful umpiring, but what can you expect with 40000 screaming all game at them.

It has happened in a number of games this week:  Umpires calling incorrect disposal, when the player has had NO prior opportunity and the ball is merely dislodged.

• 18.6.2 Holding the ball: Prior Opportunity – Where a Player in Possession of the Football has had Prior Opportunity, a field Umpire shall award a Free Kick if that Player does not Correctly Dispose of the football immediately when they are Legally Tackled.
• 18.6.3 Holding the ball: Incorrect Disposal – Where a Player in Possession of the Football has not had Prior Opportunity, a field Umpire shall award a Free Kick if that Player elects to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when Legally Tackled. For the avoidance of doubt, a Player does not elect to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when:
  • (a) the Player genuinely attempts to Correctly Dispose of the football
  • (b) the Legal Tackle causes the football to be dislodged from the Player’s possession.

It was certainly the case in our game.

We got stooged out of 2nd spot because of multiple umpiring errors. 

30 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

It has happened in a number of games this week:  Umpires calling incorrect disposal, when the player has had NO prior opportunity and the ball is merely dislodged.

• 18.6.2 Holding the ball: Prior Opportunity – Where a Player in Possession of the Football has had Prior Opportunity, a field Umpire shall award a Free Kick if that Player does not Correctly Dispose of the football immediately when they are Legally Tackled.
• 18.6.3 Holding the ball: Incorrect Disposal – Where a Player in Possession of the Football has not had Prior Opportunity, a field Umpire shall award a Free Kick if that Player elects to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when Legally Tackled. For the avoidance of doubt, a Player does not elect to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when:
  • (a) the Player genuinely attempts to Correctly Dispose of the football
  • (b) the Legal Tackle causes the football to be dislodged from the Player’s possession.

It was certainly the case in our game.

In the Hibberd and Viney goal frees, the ball was immediately knocked from their grasp, just as they grabbed it.

McCreary was allowed ages to just keep trying to get rid of the ball, until he dropped it and Sidebottom was swung around 360 twice and both play on.

Lipinski and Crisp both dropped the ball, after being held by one arm, in our goals square and play on.

There is 6 decisions all going one way to one club no matter what the circumstances.

Is it incompetence, or fear of the crowd, just like the Crows deliberate last year, which wasn't paid.

I know players make mistakes and umpiring is difficult, but seriously, how does it go one way?

 

 

Umpires would be aware of the media narrative and between that and not wanting to be booed, have at least an unconscious bias that impacts their decision making. Sometimes it has no impact on the result, others it is significant. Friday night was an example of the latter.

1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

It has happened in a number of games this week:  Umpires calling incorrect disposal, when the player has had NO prior opportunity and the ball is merely dislodged.

• 18.6.2 Holding the ball: Prior Opportunity – Where a Player in Possession of the Football has had Prior Opportunity, a field Umpire shall award a Free Kick if that Player does not Correctly Dispose of the football immediately when they are Legally Tackled.
• 18.6.3 Holding the ball: Incorrect Disposal – Where a Player in Possession of the Football has not had Prior Opportunity, a field Umpire shall award a Free Kick if that Player elects to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when Legally Tackled. For the avoidance of doubt, a Player does not elect to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when:
  • (a) the Player genuinely attempts to Correctly Dispose of the football
  • (b) the Legal Tackle causes the football to be dislodged from the Player’s possession.

It was certainly the case in our game.

Thanks for posting that. To me the rules would appear to clear Hibberd who had no prior opportunity in the first quarter by any stretch of the imagination (18.6.2.). He had barely picked the ball up when it was dislodged by the tackler. And Viney was hard done by after receiving a handball in the last quarter in heavy traffic and immediately trying to get it to his boot only to be tackled and missing his foot 18.6.3 (a) and (b)! That’s 2 gifted goals right there. 

I constantly harass the call in shows with this, never get through on the phone or sms read out. I’m thinking ill have to say something else to try and get through. But I figure nobody wants to hear it.

I am so pssd that we wouldn’t boo the umps or anything. I was the only person in Q49 screaming my lungs out on Friday night and would cop it from the other 1000 Pies fans sitting around me. That was the most disappointing thing of the entire night (next to loosing of course)

Where is our voice? Where are our fans? The umps get away with it because we are accepting of it. 

I like to give umpires the benefit of the doubt...difficult game to umpire...but that Langdon incident was so clear cut, prolonged and umsportsman like...well, what do you say.

And ratbag imbeciles seem to see some amusement.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

In the Hibberd and Viney goal frees, the ball was immediately knocked from their grasp, just as they grabbed it.

McCreary was allowed ages to just keep trying to get rid of the ball, until he dropped it and Sidebottom was swung around 360 twice and both play on.

Lipinski and Crisp both dropped the ball, after being held by one arm, in our goals square and play on.

There is 6 decisions all going one way to one club no matter what the circumstances.

Is it incompetence, or fear of the crowd, just like the Crows deliberate last year, which wasn't paid.

I know players make mistakes and umpiring is difficult, but seriously, how does it go one way?

 

 

I wonder about the incompetence but probably more about the fear with a big crowd.

I also can't help but wonder if there's some kind of bias to even games up as well. Try and make it a close contest adds to the theatre of it all.

It's those ones that get paid directly in front of goal that just make me spew 

Edited August 7, 20222 yr by Brownie