Demons won't win the flag in 2022.

[ElDiablo14 4,991]

10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Hard to have confidence given we’re 0-5 against the top 4 sides.

After week 1 finals last year we were 1-0 against Port, 2-0 against Geelong and 2-0 against Brisbane. They were the other top 4 sides of the 2021 season.

Much like our atrocious MCG record against Sydney, short and long term history is against us.

It’s looking like we’re a 4th-6th side this year.

In all fairness two of those matches (Sydney and the second against Collingwood) we lost the game more than they beat us.

I still think our best is the best, however we seem to struggle to have consistent performance week after week and even during a match. Even last night, I wonder if that soft [censored] and 50 m in the first was the pivotal point when we killed our momentum.... Who knows if that didn't happen, it looked like we were bringing the game in to our terms ...

[ElDiablo14 4,991]

10 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

In all fairness two of those matches (Sydney and the second against Collingwood) we lost the game more than they beat us.

I still think our best is the best, however we seem to struggle to have consistent performance week after week and even during a match. Even last night, I wonder if that soft [censored] and 50 m in the first was the pivotal point when we killed our momentum.... Who knows if that didn't happen, it looked like we were bringing the game in to our terms ...

Well it looks like the short form for "Free Kick" has been censored 😅

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

15 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

Really? I would have thought a true supporter would have loved to be proven wrong?

Talking about our chances and being a supporter are two completely different things. 

Were talking about our chances I'd have thought. And in the 2022 season we haven't stood up against the best.

[layzie 33,750]

I think our best being the best isn't the case anymore and something people are just saying for the hell of it. Geelong's best this year can't be topped.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,166]

23 minutes ago, layzie said:

I think our best being the best isn't the case anymore and something people are just saying for the hell of it. Geelong's best this year can't be topped.

I reckon Sydney will give them headaches. Assuming Geelong gets over the Pies today.

[BDA 22,735]

We can still win it but our big guns need to fire. Too many top liners were down last night

[praha 11,234]

Elephant in the room...

We're still a small club that can't consistently perform in big games in the big smoke.

We won it last year, a fantastic achievement, on the road in front of a handful of local supporters and rent-a-crowds. Sorry but it's true.

Twice against Collingwood, Twice against Sydney, Geelong, and almost Carlton... every single time we've played "the big boys" in Melbourne in battles between contenders this year we have been comprehensively beaten in the contest with pressure.

It's great if you're a good travelling team during the season but in finals it's irrelevant when all your games are at the MCG in front of 80k+... 

I don't want to understate the significance of last year's flag at all, but this year is legitimate "big boys" finals on the big stage and we've really buckled on almost every occasion. 

There was a shot of a Swans supporter doing the choking motion last night and it's pretty accurate.

As soon as things returned to normal and perennial contenders Sydney, Collingwood, Geelong come back onto the scene, we've been deers in headlights. We're so close yet so far.

To lose against Collingwood and Sydney TWICE on the MCG in the fashion we have is an indictment on the season in my view. Taking nothing away from those teams at all but we have been way off it on the REAL big stage this season.

We turned it up on the other side of the country when most of us were locked up at home and couldn't even celebrate, away from the stress and scrutiny of Melbourne. Now the big boys are out to play and we're still a league below.

Last night was just so typically Melbourne in outcome. I know I'm being harsh but it's been an obvious trend this year.

[Jjrogan 1,417]

19 minutes ago, praha said:

Elephant in the room...

We're still a small club that can't consistently perform in big games in the big smoke.

We won it last year, a fantastic achievement, on the road in front of a handful of local supporters and rent-a-crowds. Sorry but it's true.

Twice against Collingwood, Twice against Sydney, Geelong, and almost Carlton... every single time we've played "the big boys" in Melbourne in battles between contenders this year we have been comprehensively beaten in the contest with pressure.

It's great if you're a good travelling team during the season but in finals it's irrelevant when all your games are at the MCG in front of 80k+... 

I don't want to understate the significance of last year's flag at all, but this year is legitimate "big boys" finals on the big stage and we've really buckled on almost every occasion. 

There was a shot of a Swans supporter doing the choking motion last night and it's pretty accurate.

As soon as things returned to normal and perennial contenders Sydney, Collingwood, Geelong come back onto the scene, we've been deers in headlights. We're so close yet so far.

To lose against Collingwood and Sydney TWICE on the MCG in the fashion we have is an indictment on the season in my view. Taking nothing away from those teams at all but we have been way off it on the REAL big stage this season.

We turned it up on the other side of the country when most of us were locked up at home and couldn't even celebrate, away from the stress and scrutiny of Melbourne. Now the big boys are out to play and we're still a league below.

Last night was just so typically Melbourne in outcome. I know I'm being harsh but it's been an obvious trend this year.

Unsubscribe. What diatribe

[praha 11,234]

5 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

Unsubscribe. What diatribe

It's not though. We have to beat two top 4 teams to win a flag and we're 0-5 against the top 4 this season. Four of which have been at the MCG in high pressure, high interest contests.

Our performance at the MCG is embarrassing for the club. This is our home and we've choked there on every big stage this season.

Woopdidoo we're a good travelling team! Guess what? We don't travel for the rest of the year lol

Edited September 3, 2022 by praha

[ElDiablo14 4,991]

26 minutes ago, praha said:

Elephant in the room...

We're still a small club that can't consistently perform in big games in the big smoke.

We won it last year, a fantastic achievement, on the road in front of a handful of local supporters and rent-a-crowds. Sorry but it's true.

Twice against Collingwood, Twice against Sydney, Geelong, and almost Carlton... every single time we've played "the big boys" in Melbourne in battles between contenders this year we have been comprehensively beaten in the contest with pressure.

It's great if you're a good travelling team during the season but in finals it's irrelevant when all your games are at the MCG in front of 80k+... 

I don't want to understate the significance of last year's flag at all, but this year is legitimate "big boys" finals on the big stage and we've really buckled on almost every occasion. 

There was a shot of a Swans supporter doing the choking motion last night and it's pretty accurate.

As soon as things returned to normal and perennial contenders Sydney, Collingwood, Geelong come back onto the scene, we've been deers in headlights. We're so close yet so far.

To lose against Collingwood and Sydney TWICE on the MCG in the fashion we have is an indictment on the season in my view. Taking nothing away from those teams at all but we have been way off it on the REAL big stage this season.

We turned it up on the other side of the country when most of us were locked up at home and couldn't even celebrate, away from the stress and scrutiny of Melbourne. Now the big boys are out to play and we're still a league below.

Last night was just so typically Melbourne in outcome. I know I'm being harsh but it's been an obvious trend this year.

I find it comical that of all supporter bases are the Swans the ones to say we are chokers. They are up there with Geelong as the most wasteful in the last decade with all their finals runs.

I couldn't care less what other supporters think about us, all I want for our club is sustained success and its rightful place in the AFL's elite (granted it is long lost but we have the opportunity to reclaim it).

[DemonOX 8,782]

I’m so sick of negative [censored].

Let just a enjoy the ride. 

What ever happens it’s a hella of a lot better than what we have previously experienced before the PREMIERSHIP. 

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,291]

4 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

I’m so sick of negative [censored].

Let just a enjoy the ride. 

What ever happens it’s a hella of a lot better than what we have previously experienced before the PREMIERSHIP. 

Agree with all this. 

[rpfc 28,261]

Get over the Lions and get yourself to a PF and if that forward line can click and get good connection suddenly you are in a GF and we can beat anybody. 

It is so open this year that we should still have expectations on ourselves to perform in a PF. 

As a fan of this great collection of players that is all I ask; get yourself into a position to get to a PF and give it a red hot crack. 

[deva5610 970]

19 hours ago, COVID Dan said:

I hate it when I'm right.

I don't think the boys can't win it, I just think we're not good enough this year compared to the best.

Defence isn't king in 2022

Yet again you're not a prophet, you're playing the odds. 17 out of the 18 teams aren't going to win it.

You're not all knowing.

If we do win it I wonder if you'll be back "Oh looks like I was wrong". Doubt it.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Just now, deva5610 said:

Yet again you're not a prophet, you're playing the odds. 17 out of the 18 teams aren't going to win it.

You're not all knowing.

If we do win it I wonder if you'll be back "Oh looks like I was wrong". Doubt it.

Very deva response.

Sorry for sharing my thoughts about footy on a footy forum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

26 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Get over the Lions and get yourself to a PF and if that forward line can click and get good connection suddenly you are in a GF and we can beat anybody. 

It is so open this year that we should still have expectations on ourselves to perform in a PF. 

As a fan of this great collection of players that is all I ask; get yourself into a position to get to a PF and give it a red hot crack. 

No doubt.

I'm not talking about effort or support, I'm comparing us to our competition and they are all significantly better offensively.

Nothing to be ashamed of. I just don't think we have enough time to fix it this year. Our defence won't save us, and last night was further proof.

Not saying we can't get there on our day, just I don't see it happening for us on current form.

Edited September 3, 2022 by COVID Dan

[rpfc 28,261]

2 minutes ago, COVID Dan said:

No doubt.

I'm not talking about effort or support, I'm comparing us to our competition and they are all significantly better offensively.

Nothing to be ashamed of. I just don't think we have enough time to fix it this year. Our defence won't save us, and last night was further proof.

Not saying we can't get there on our day, just I don't see it happening for us on current form.

Our scrappy forward line can get us there but they need to lift their pressure and the whole team needs to execute skills better on transition. We aren’t doing that. It’s not cattle, it’s the cattle not doing what they did do last year under pressure.

[BLWNBA 928]

41 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

I’m so sick of negative [censored].

Let just a enjoy the ride. 

What ever happens it’s a hella of a lot better than what we have previously experienced before the PREMIERSHIP. 

And that’s the ‘cheerio, near enough is good enough’ attitude that’s seen the MFC float in a sea of mediocrity and ineptitude for the majority of the past six decades. It’s a cancerous culture which placates the supporter base unlike any other supporter base in the AFL. 

[layzie 33,750]

3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I reckon Sydney will give them headaches. Assuming Geelong gets over the Pies today.

Fair call, still give Geelong the edge when up and running 

[deva5610 970]

1 hour ago, COVID Dan said:

Very deva response.

Sorry for sharing my thoughts about footy on a footy forum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mate you came in saying "I hate it when I'm right" as if you're some kind of prophet. Even with the odds favouring your grand proclamation the finals aren't over yet so in no way are you right....yet ;)

I still think we've got a good chance. When we click, we really bloody click.

Edited September 3, 2022 by deva5610

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

29 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Our scrappy forward line can get us there but they need to lift their pressure and the whole team needs to execute skills better on transition. We aren’t doing that. It’s not cattle, it’s the cattle not doing what they did do last year under pressure.

That's what I said.

We're not good enough to win this year.

[Jjrogan 1,417]

1 hour ago, praha said:

It's not though. We have to beat two top 4 teams to win a flag and we're 0-5 against the top 4 this season. Four of which have been at the MCG in high pressure, high interest contests.

Our performance at the MCG is embarrassing for the club. This is our home and we've choked there on every big stage this season.

Woopdidoo we're a good travelling team! Guess what? We don't travel for the rest of the year lol

No it is diatribe. We were red hot last year and beat the best in amazing circumstances. That wont be repeated.  We had a hard draw and finished 2nd.  A well coached team beat us in the 1st final. We are not embarrassing.  Whats embarassing is out supporters is expecting to be the ants pants week in and week out. Thats not how football or anything in  life works quite frankly. 

Edited September 3, 2022 by Jjrogan

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

3 minutes ago, deva5610 said:

Mate you came in saying "I hate it when I'm right" as if you're some kind of prophet. Even with the odds favouring your grand proclamation the finals aren't even over yet so in no way are you right.

What are you on about? If you don't like discussion or opinions I suggest you don't bother responding bro 

Not everyone has to agree with you 

[Jjrogan 1,417]

3 minutes ago, COVID Dan said:

That's what I said.

We're not good enough to win this year.

As the odds would suggest. Gutsy. Keep going

[BDA 22,735]

23 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

And that’s the ‘cheerio, near enough is good enough’ attitude that’s seen the MFC float in a sea of mediocrity and ineptitude for the majority of the past six decades. It’s a cancerous culture which placates the supporter base unlike any other supporter base in the AFL. 

What are you on about?

Who said anything about good enough is near enough. There was enough wrist slitting in the bad old days and it didn't get us anywhere

The club is well run and managed. The FD know what they are doing and have delivered a flag. We have champion players and can bounce back. 

This thread. Seriously