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2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Wow. That’s sad. I can’t imagine what would cause a rift between a cheer squad and their own players. But then again, there are Dees “fans” around who don’t hold back when it comes to their personal attacks on some of our players, so I guess anything is possible. 

Port fans have plenty to beef about their club and a lot justified after their missteps in the past few seasons. I cant see much justification for some of the vituperative comments of our players here given our lofty position on the ladder and no different to where we were last season at same time. Some criticism is always fair but “cancel culture” logic is starting to appear demanding severe retribution to players for issues that are routine manageable in every club. 

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26 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

I cant see much justification for some of the vituperative comments of our players here given our lofty position on the ladder and no different to where we were last season at same time. Some criticism is always fair but “cancel culture” logic is starting to appear demanding severe retribution to players for issues that are routine manageable in every club. 

Oh, for sure some criticism is fair. It’s the senseless and purposeless personal insults that I resent. It’s the same core group of posters who indulge in this. And god forbid you should ask any of them.to knock it off.  You’d be told that…

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LOL if that was the case I’d spend an inordinate amount of time up on my high horse. 

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6 hours ago, Deesprate said:

Ha you need a new predictor mine says we win 5 in a row and finish on top!

His must be broken, mine says the same as yours...

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I'm not a stats man at all but is anyone else concerned that in the key indicators for clubs winning the flag over the past several seasons, we have fallen well down on last year?

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A thought I had on the Melksham chase down the wing early in the 4th qtr....

Why wasn't Tom Clurey pinged for insufficient attempt? He ran 40m, had ample opportunity to dispose of the ball and then ran out of bounds. Ball in.

 

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11 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

A thought I had on the Melksham chase down the wing early in the 4th qtr....

Why wasn't Tom Clurey pinged for insufficient attempt? He ran 40m, had ample opportunity to dispose of the ball and then ran out of bounds. Ball in.

 

Clurey didn't run the ball out of bounds. He was in play but the ball was over the line when he kicked it. 

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35 minutes ago, loges said:

I'm not a stats man at all but is anyone else concerned that in the key indicators for clubs winning the flag over the past several seasons, we have fallen well down on last year?

Do you have reference to the indicators / current stats? There was an article about the key indicators back in April, they were looking pretty good back then despite us not really looking like we were playing that well and still wining games (IMO). I'd be interested to see where teams are ranked now vs then. Also the uneven fixture can skew the stats a bit so I'm not sure you can read too much into the stats as you mentioned. A good discussion point all the same to take a look at how things are tracking.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/33768562/afl-2022-champion-data-deep-dive-stats-reveal-premiership-contenders-fremantle-dockers-melbourne-biggest-danger

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Bonkers said:

Do you have reference to the indicators / current stats? There was an article about the key indicators back in April, they were looking pretty good back then despite us not really looking like we were playing that well and still wining games (IMO). I'd be interested to see where teams are ranked now vs then. Also the uneven fixture can skew the stats a bit so I'm not sure you can read too much into the stats as you mentioned. A good discussion point all the same to take a look at how things are tracking.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/33768562/afl-2022-champion-data-deep-dive-stats-reveal-premiership-contenders-fremantle-dockers-melbourne-biggest-danger

 

 

Only what they've quoted on a couple of the footy shows.

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2 hours ago, mo64 said:

Clurey didn't run the ball out of bounds. He was in play but the ball was over the line when he kicked it. 

You contradicted yourself. 

If he was out of bounds when he kicked it he clearly ran the ball over the boundary line. Watch it again.

He had ample opportunity to dispose of the ball or keep the ball in play and didn't (because we had a spare man down the line). That is textbook insufficient attempt

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6 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Oh, for sure some criticism is fair. It’s the senseless and purposeless personal insults that I resent. It’s the same core group of posters who indulge in this. And god forbid you should ask any of them.to knock it off.  You’d be told that…

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LOL if that was the case I’d spend an inordinate amount of time up on my high horse. 

Ignored Users works well!

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1 minute ago, D4Life said:

Ignored Users works well!

This is true. Except that you can’t escape seeing their posts when someone else quotes them. One day the mods might see fit to include a “you’re dead to me “ button. I’ll wait for that. 😁

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I thought the following snippet from the Mongrel Punt was as gem, and well worth sharing with Demonland friends:  

"There were multiple “little things” moments that seemed to fall the way of the Dees in this game. Make no mistake – this is not luck. It’s amazing how the harder you work, the luckier you get, huh?"

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23 hours ago, loges said:

Only what they've quoted on a couple of the footy shows.

Yeah, David King and Leigh Montagna have their 4 key stats that they always carry on about. It is about how hard teams defend and attack with and without the ball. I forget the actual details, my eyes have started to glaze over when they roll them out to support any given argument they are currently running. Reality is a little mor nuanced than that but simplified stats make for great news ;)

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