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POSTGAME : Rd 18 vs Port Adelaide

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  On 19/07/2022 at 00:49, WalkingCivilWar said:

Wow. Thatā€™s sad. I canā€™t imagine what would cause a rift between a cheer squad and their own players. But then again, there are Dees ā€œfansā€ around who donā€™t hold back when it comes to their personal attacks on some of our players, so I guess anything is possible. 

Port fans have plenty to beef about their club and a lot justified after their missteps in the past few seasons. I cant see much justification for some of the vituperative comments of our players here given our lofty position on the ladder and no different to where we were last season at same time. Some criticism is always fair but ā€œcancel cultureā€ logic is starting to appear demanding severe retribution to players for issues that are routine manageable in every club. 

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      On 19/07/2022 at 03:28, John Crow Batty said:

    I cant see much justification for some of the vituperative comments of our players here given our lofty position on the ladder and no different to where we were last season at same time. Some criticism is always fair but ā€œcancel cultureā€ logic is starting to appear demanding severe retribution to players for issues that are routine manageable in every club. 

    Oh, for sure some criticism is fair. Itā€™s the senseless and purposeless personal insults that I resent. Itā€™s the same core group of posters who indulge in this. And god forbid you should ask any of them.to knock it off.  Youā€™d be told thatā€¦

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    LOL if that was the case Iā€™d spend an inordinate amount of time up on my high horse. 

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      On 18/07/2022 at 22:15, Deesprate said:

    Ha you need a new predictor mine says we win 5 in a row and finish on top!

    His must be broken, mine says the same as yours...

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    I'm not a stats man at all but is anyone else concerned that in the key indicators for clubs winning the flag over the past several seasons, we have fallen well down on last year?

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    A thought I had on the Melksham chase down the wing early in the 4th qtr....

    Why wasn't Tom Clurey pinged for insufficient attempt? He ran 40m, had ample opportunity to dispose of the ball and then ran out of bounds. Ball in.

     

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      On 19/07/2022 at 04:56, jnrmac said:

    A thought I had on the Melksham chase down the wing early in the 4th qtr....

    Why wasn't Tom Clurey pinged for insufficient attempt? He ran 40m, had ample opportunity to dispose of the ball and then ran out of bounds. Ball in.

     

    Clurey didn't run the ball out of bounds. He was in play but the ball was over the line when he kicked it. 

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      On 19/07/2022 at 04:49, loges said:

    I'm not a stats man at all but is anyone else concerned that in the key indicators for clubs winning the flag over the past several seasons, we have fallen well down on last year?

    Do you have reference to the indicators / current stats? There was an article about the key indicators back in April, they were looking pretty good back then despite us not really looking like we were playing that well and still wining games (IMO). I'd be interested to see where teams are ranked now vs then. Also the uneven fixture can skew the stats a bit so I'm not sure you can read too much into the stats as you mentioned. A good discussion point all the same to take a look at how things are tracking.

    https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/33768562/afl-2022-champion-data-deep-dive-stats-reveal-premiership-contenders-fremantle-dockers-melbourne-biggest-danger

     

     

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      On 19/07/2022 at 05:49, Bonkers said:

    Do you have reference to the indicators / current stats? There was an article about the key indicators back in April, they were looking pretty good back then despite us not really looking like we were playing that well and still wining games (IMO). I'd be interested to see where teams are ranked now vs then. Also the uneven fixture can skew the stats a bit so I'm not sure you can read too much into the stats as you mentioned. A good discussion point all the same to take a look at how things are tracking.

    https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/33768562/afl-2022-champion-data-deep-dive-stats-reveal-premiership-contenders-fremantle-dockers-melbourne-biggest-danger

     

     

    Only what they've quoted on a couple of the footy shows.

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      On 19/07/2022 at 05:09, mo64 said:

    Clurey didn't run the ball out of bounds. He was in play but the ball was over the line when he kicked it. 

    You contradicted yourself. 

    If he was out of bounds when he kicked it he clearly ran the ball over the boundary line. Watch it again.

    He had ample opportunity to dispose of the ball or keep the ball in play and didn't (because we had a spare man down the line). That is textbook insufficient attempt

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    Leverā€™s concerned the 6 day break wonā€™t be enough time to get up next week.

    In - Oliver, Petty

    Out - Lever, Bedford (not Melksham)

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      On 18/07/2022 at 07:36, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Two major errors in one sentence that went through through to the keeper.  The proofreader needs to be dropped!

    Probably has a Phd from La Trobe. 

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      On 19/07/2022 at 09:18, Queanbeyan Demon said:

    Probably has a Phd from La Trobe. 

    ā€œLa Trobeā€ -  is that a new brand of cereal?

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      On 19/07/2022 at 09:24, Queanbeyan Demon said:

    Medieval rock opera WCW. 

    Aaaaandā€¦ none the wiser. šŸ™ƒ

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      On 19/07/2022 at 04:01, WalkingCivilWar said:

    Oh, for sure some criticism is fair. Itā€™s the senseless and purposeless personal insults that I resent. Itā€™s the same core group of posters who indulge in this. And god forbid you should ask any of them.to knock it off.  Youā€™d be told thatā€¦

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    LOL if that was the case Iā€™d spend an inordinate amount of time up on my high horse. 

    Ignored Users works well!

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      On 19/07/2022 at 10:30, D4Life said:

    Ignored Users works well!

    This is true. Except that you canā€™t escape seeing their posts when someone else quotes them. One day the mods might see fit to include a ā€œyouā€™re dead to me ā€œ button. Iā€™ll wait for that. šŸ˜

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    I thought the following snippet from the Mongrel Punt was as gem, and well worth sharing with Demonland friends:  

    "There were multiple ā€œlittle thingsā€ moments that seemed to fall the way of the Dees in this game. Make no mistake ā€“ this is not luck. Itā€™s amazing how the harder you work, the luckier you get, huh?"

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    Typo

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      On 19/07/2022 at 06:10, loges said:

    Only what they've quoted on a couple of the footy shows.

    Yeah, David King and Leigh Montagna have their 4 key stats that they always carry on about. It is about how hard teams defend and attack with and without the ball. I forget the actual details, my eyes have started to glaze over when they roll them out to support any given argument they are currently running. Reality is a little mor nuanced than that but simplified stats make for great news ;)

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