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NON-MFC: Round 10, 2022

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1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

I'm watching Sydney fumble in space, be led to the ball, get walked through in tackles and continually lay tackles too high or in the back.

There is plenty about this performance that is on Sydney independently of Carlton.

Carlton are good, don't get me wrong, but Sydney are not in form, having lost two in a row before beating a sub-VFL side in Essendon.

That's Carltons doing mate - implied pressure, bull midfielders and first to the ball. A better team might combat it better, sure. 

For what it's worth Sydney are overrated - defensively been leaky for most of this year but it hasnt been acknowledged by the populace. But they're still generally a good team. Carlton are better. 

All that said Sydney lifting a little - don't think it will matter though 

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    1 minute ago, Demon Dynasty said:

    Disgracefully one sided.  How many times has a blue gathered, taken a few steps then either taken on the tackler / been tackled legally then either dropped the pill red hot and/or not made a realistic  attempt yet no free!??

    Walsh just then...broke a tackle then fair tackled immediately after but no free!!

    If you are not going to penalise a team for not playing to the rules of the game then fat chance the ither team has of putting a winning score on the board.

    💯 deserves an inquiry. Never seen a rule officiated so differently for two sides in a match

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    5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Carlton are a superior version of the Bulldogs. Reliant on their midfield and forward line to keep the ball out of their defensive 50 and to score enough to outdo their backline weaknesses.

    Despite all the hoo-ha over their midfield and forward line, they entered this game with the worst percentage of any top 8 side, which is indicative of their back half weaknesses.

    Agree their profile is hugely offensive - historically very few teams have held that profile up in finals. Hope you're right.

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    3 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

    Agree their profile is hugely offensive - historically very few teams have held that profile up in finals. Hope you're right.

    Their defence is super shaky.

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    The Blues are just as leaky as the Swans down back.... they just win a heap more of the stoppages and contested, getting it inside alot more (tonight).

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    6 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

    That's Carltons doing mate - implied pressure, bull midfielders and first to the ball. A better team might combat it better, sure. 

    For what it's worth Sydney are overrated - defensively been leaky for most of this year but it hasnt been acknowledged by the populace. But they're still generally a good team. Carlton are better. 

    All that said Sydney lifting a little - don't think it will matter though 

    2 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

    Agree their profile is hugely offensive - historically very few teams have held that profile up in finals. Hope you're right.

    The funny thing about their scoring is that going into this Round, we've scored more than them. You wouldn't think that based on the narratives around us and them.

    The 726 points they had conceded coming into this round is worse than all other top 10 sides bar Richmond.

    Sydney are hugely over-rated, agreed. Their only win of merit was vs Geelong, in Buddy's 1000th game, and Geelong are also pretty mid-road this year. Remaining wins are five of the bottom 6.

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    13 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Carlton are a superior version of the Bulldogs. Reliant on their midfield and forward line to keep the ball out of their defensive 50 and to score enough to outdo their backline weaknesses.

    Despite all the hoo-ha over their midfield and forward line, they entered this game with the worst percentage of any top 8 side, which is indicative of their back half weaknesses.

    The Dogs just don't have the forward strength...they are mids & more mids. Carlton have them covered there.

    Defensively they are also a stronger with the big full back.

    I think in transition is where they will be caught out at the moment.

    Cripps is still a one way runner and when you play a really good team everyone needs to buy into team defence.

    I haven't seen enough to know how hard the forwards work outside of their zone. They put defensive pressure on there but do they push back hard enough to help out the back 6?

    Going to be an interesting watch. When contested ball doesn't go their way, how do they stand up?

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    2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    The funny thing about their scoring is that going into this Round, we've scored more than them. You wouldn't think that based on the narratives around us and them.

    The 726 points they had conceded coming into this round is worse than all other top 10 sides bar Richmond.

    Sydney are hugely over-rated, agreed. Their only win of merit was vs Geelong, in Buddy's 1000th game, and Geelong are also pretty mid-road this year. Remaining wins are five of the bottom 6.

    Interesting, I wouldnt have thought that was the case 

    Good discussion lads 

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    Just now, rjay said:

    The Dogs just don't have the forward strength...they are mids & more mids. Carlton have them covered there.

    Defensively they are also a stronger with the big full back.

    I think in transition is where they will be caught out at the moment.

    Cripps is still a one way runner and when you play a really good team everyone needs to buy into team defence.

    I haven't seen enough to know how hard the forwards work outside of their zone. They put defensive pressure on there but do they push back hard enough to help out the back 6?

    To be fair to the Dogs, Josh Bruce changes their forward line, gives Naughton a chop out. I reckon Naughton would be flying if he had McKay alongside him like Curnow does.

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    Buddy still got it - what a legendary left

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    Carlton are also a massive front-running first half side.

    vs the Dogs, 12 goals in the first half, 4 in the second

    vs Hawthorn, 9 goals in the first half, 2 in the second

    vs Port, 12 goals in the first half, 2 in the second

    now vs Sydney, 12 goals in the first half, only 2 so far in the third quarter (and having conceded 5.4 at the same time)

    We remember Carlton well because those four first halves have been intensely good, but they've been opened up defensively in each of those games too.

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    Just now, titan_uranus said:

    Carlton are also a massive front-running first half side.

    vs the Dogs, 12 goals in the first half, 4 in the second

    vs Hawthorn, 9 goals in the first half, 2 in the second

    vs Port, 12 goals in the first half, 2 in the second

    now vs Sydney, 12 goals in the first half, only 2 so far in the third quarter (and having conceded 5.4 at the same time)

    We remember Carlton well because those four first halves have been intensely good, but they've been opened up defensively in each of those games too.

    You, and Sydney, are winning me over 

    Still think the blues will get home unfortunately

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    Walsh just waltzing around front & sqaure... nobody near him.  Awful Swans.  At least have someone going with him in that front half to try and pressure the turnover or even better win the ball first!

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    LOL, the Blues fans emphatically booing Luke Parker coz of his taunting of Dylan Shiel who plays for Essendon, the team Blues fans despise the most. I wanna see their faces if/when this occurs to them. 😆

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    Swans should win this if they are any good

    Weitering aside, the Blues defence is so bad

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    1 minute ago, fr_ap said:

    You, and Sydney, are winning me over 

    Still think the blues will get home unfortunately

    Yeah you'd still expect Carlton to get up from here. Still got a three goal buffer and probably only need 1 or 2 goals this quarter to seal it. 

    Big first halves help as your opponent is playing catch up footy to get back into it.

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    7 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    To be fair to the Dogs, Josh Bruce changes their forward line, gives Naughton a chop out. I reckon Naughton would be flying if he had McKay alongside him like Curnow does.

    Yep, Bruce makes a difference but Curnow hasn't got McKay out there tonight and is going ok.

    Their overall structure is better than the Dogs.

    I'm still not convinced with their team defence and that's what we started to see a bit that Q.

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    4 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

    Nothing to do with the umpiring.

    General public seem to think so.

    Games are [censored] to watch and over umpired. May not be the full extent but its certainly right up there.

     

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    2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    Yeah you'd still expect Carlton to get up from here. Still got a three goal buffer and probably only need 1 or 2 goals this quarter to seal it. 

    Big first halves help as your opponent is playing catch up footy to get back into it.

    If my memory serves me correctly, history says if you go 3 to 4 goals down by quarter time you only win about 2 out of 10 times coming back from there.

    Fast Starts = Usually winning footy

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