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Recent draftee defender Daniel Turner looks good already but, b-b-b-baby you ain't seen nothin' yet.

He's also built to last and is not fragile.

Therefore, the proposed medal should be called the Backman Turner Overdrive.

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      On 20/09/2021 at 03:14, Demonstone said:

    Recent draftee defender Daniel Turner looks good already but, b-b-b-baby you ain't seen nothin' yet.

    He's also built to last and is not fragile.

    Therefore, the proposed medal should be called the Backman Turner Overdrive.

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    I posted the following in the Brownlow thread already. There absolutely should be an award to recognize defenders.

    “There needs to be an award for defenders. Brownlow is for midfielders. Coleman is for forwards. Need a defenders award too. I would take the impact of May or Lever over most of the top 20 in the Brownlow last night! Teams literally plan their match around those two, such is their influence!”.

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    How could it be decided?. The Coleman Medal is objective, rather than subjective, although in rewarding the highest goalkicker, it is not necessarily recognising the best forward. 

    Perhaps a panel of experts might select the individual? On the other hand, perhaps we've already identified the best six in the land via the All-Australian process and that's all that is necessary.  

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    Since defenders are miserly, it could be the "give them nothing" award. Pretty much sums up the Brownlow.

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      On 20/09/2021 at 03:39, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    How could it be decided?. The Coleman Medal is objective, rather than subjective, although in rewarding the highest goalkicker, it is not necessarily recognising the best forward. 

    Perhaps a panel of experts might select the individual? On the other hand, perhaps we've already identified the best six in the land via the All-Australian process and that's all that is necessary.  

    It can be decided on things like goals conceded, marks inside 50 conceded, one on one contests won, intercept marks, rebounds from defensive 50 etc.

    Plenty of statistics that get recorded which are unique to defenders. 

    Defenders are arguably the most important part of winning a flag. I have no idea how we just ignore them in awards. Absolutely deserve an award that specifically looks at them.

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      On 20/09/2021 at 03:09, Luther said:

    The Golden Fist.

    For the overall AFL, yes. For the MFC defenders - the Haymes Paint sponsored 'tight as 2 coats of paint" award!

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      On 20/09/2021 at 03:09, Luther said:

    The Golden Fist.

    I don't think an actual gold fist will be affordable each year, so I propose a rubber fist spray painted gold. Much more economical.

    And that way we can also include Haymes @TRIGON

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      On 20/09/2021 at 22:40, Luther said:

    I don't think an actual gold fist will be affordable each year, so I propose a rubber fist spray painted gold. Much more economical.

    And that way we can also include Haymes @TRIGON

    Good thinking @Luther.  The introduction of the term Rubber Fist does however push the topic to a precipitous edge; vulnerable to certain infamous dungeon-dwelling Demonlanders.

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    Not sure about this one. Would it include talls, lockdown smalls and running HBs? If so what would be the criteria to win it?

     

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    If you look at the best defenders you will generally see a list of the best intercept defenders, so there is a bias there too.

    Look at the AA team: May, Lever, Aliir, Stewart, Rich and Dale. Of those, only May could play directly on the opponent's best or second best defender (tall or small). The remaining 5 would play on the opposition's weakest or second weakest forward.

    All the awards have flaws, even the AA which specifically selects 6 defenders. The last true defender selected in the AA team was Talia in 2016. 

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      On 20/09/2021 at 03:56, Jaded said:

    It can be decided on things like goals conceded, marks inside 50 conceded, one on one contests won, intercept marks, rebounds from defensive 50 etc.


    This could work, almost like a defenders supercoach competition.
    Each stat gives points, for example intercept marks are worth more than spoils. 

    Alternatively, there could be a 321 system just for defenders voted by the coaches along with their award. 

     

     

      On 21/09/2021 at 02:33, Axis of Bob said:

    The last true defender selected in the AA team was Talia in 2016. 

    I'd call Steven May a true defender

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