On 09/09/2021 at 01:55, adonski said:

They must be planning on getting rid of T Mac if the Gunston stuff is real

Would free up a lot of coin too

I think its more that Weid is uncontracted

They need a forward don't they, Weideman and next year's 1st/2nd might get it done?

  On 09/09/2021 at 02:05, Lord Nev said:

Or TMac, still unhappy about last year and perhaps playing second fiddle to Brown, wants to move on....

Really?

  On 09/09/2021 at 02:34, Diamond_Jim said:

would you pay $700k for TMac?

He's not going anywhere unless he takes a 2 x $500k deal

Agree, he is contracted, will want his cash, and no one else is silly enough to pay it. 2 x $500 is a smart deal

Edited September 9, 20213 yr by Demons1858

We can put to bed any scenario involving trading Gus, Jackson or Rivers. That will not happen, unless those players come out and request a trade.

While Gus may not be highly rated on these forums, he is extremely highly rated at the club and is part of the leadership group. Zero chance he is getting the flick. In fact, I would suggest we are looking at Cerra to enable Gus to play more time on ball.

  On 08/09/2021 at 23:34, Lord Nev said:

Not sure I agree. Weideman is leaving due to no opportunity, why would another key forward want to come to us? Also, you can do more than one trade/draft selection per year. There's players leaving, future picks, free agents, the draft.. A lot of options.

  

  

Come on mate. Seriously. Bit of hyperbole here. If you think trading in one player and potentially losing one who wants to leave will 'tear us apart' then I have some absolutely shocking news about how many list changes there are every year...

 

Think weid not locking in a spot is more of an indication of where he is at and not the strength of our key fwds, I doubt very much if anyone currently performing as a kpp on a senior list on a consistent basis would have any trouble keeping one of tmac or Ben brown out. 

If you look at our list we have the whole best 22 and then some locked in for next year and beyond, the only players yet to sign on are not in the team on a regular basis. I don’t foresee any one under contract asking to go in this years trade period unless we push them out. To get Cerra a top 10 player would need to be traded like a viney or Langdon or Salem or a young high pick like Jackson or Pickett. Which means a zero net gain. No fringe player would bring in enough to get a deal done even with picks we have. If it could great but I’m trying to be realistic.

Edited September 9, 20213 yr by Garbo

  On 09/09/2021 at 06:23, Garbo said:

Think weid not locking in a spot is more of an indication of where he is at and not the strength of our key fwds, I doubt very much if anyone currently performing as a kpp on a senior list on a consistent basis would have any trouble keeping one of tmac or Ben brown out. 

If you look at our list we have the whole best 22 and then some locked in for next year and beyond, the only players yet to sign on are not in the team on a regular basis. I don’t foresee any one under contract asking to go in this years trade period unless we push them out. To get Cerra a top 10 player would need to be traded like a viney or Langdon or Salem or a young high pick like Jackson or Pickett. Which means a zero net gain. No fringe player would bring in enough to get a deal done even with picks we have. If it could great but I’m trying to be realistic.

Yeah, the club has done a good job at re-signing the key players, but let's be honest, contracts don't mean a lot these days. Nothing to stop a contracted player requesting a trade, it happens nearly every offseason now.

But again, I'm not advocating we force anyone out to get Cerra, I'm talking about the possibility someone requests a trade and that trade ends up helping to facilitate the Cerra deal.

Sometimes your hands are tied somewhat with trades, but I think we've done pretty well with making the best out of those situations as a club.

  On 09/09/2021 at 07:51, Lord Nev said:

Yeah, the club has done a good job at re-signing the key players, but let's be honest, contracts don't mean a lot these days. Nothing to stop a contracted player requesting a trade, it happens nearly every offseason now.

But again, I'm not advocating we force anyone out to get Cerra, I'm talking about the possibility someone requests a trade and that trade ends up helping to facilitate the Cerra deal.

Sometimes your hands are tied somewhat with trades, but I think we've done pretty well with making the best out of those situations as a club.

I think I've said it elsewhere, but I'm interested in how we handle the trade period now that Mahoney is no longer around.

Do the people who remain have the same skill and cunning when it comes to trading, or were the people in the background doing the back and forth for him?

With our seemingly crappy draft hand, it will be a minor miracle if we can get Cerra in without a player of some note requesting a trade out of the club.

 

  On 10/09/2021 at 01:04, faultydet said:

I think I've said it elsewhere, but I'm interested in how we handle the trade period now that Mahoney is no longer around.

Do the people who remain have the same skill and cunning when it comes to trading, or were the people in the background doing the back and forth for him?

With our seemingly crappy draft hand, it will be a minor miracle if we can get Cerra in without a player of some note requesting a trade out of the club.

 

I trust Tim Lamb, but I guess we'll see.

  On 10/09/2021 at 01:04, faultydet said:

I think I've said it elsewhere, but I'm interested in how we handle the trade period now that Mahoney is no longer around.

Do the people who remain have the same skill and cunning when it comes to trading, or were the people in the background doing the back and forth for him?

With our seemingly crappy draft hand, it will be a minor miracle if we can get Cerra in without a player of some note requesting a trade out of the club.

 

Yeah, from the outside it seemed like Mahoney was a trade period master. Was ahead of the game with the points system and trading future picks.

  On 10/09/2021 at 01:11, A F said:

I trust Tim Lamb, but I guess we'll see.

Wonder who will handle the trade period dealings this year? I'm assuming Richo, obviously in consultation with Lamb.

  On 10/09/2021 at 01:04, faultydet said:

I think I've said it elsewhere, but I'm interested in how we handle the trade period now that Mahoney is no longer around.

Do the people who remain have the same skill and cunning when it comes to trading, or were the people in the background doing the back and forth for him?

With our seemingly crappy draft hand, it will be a minor miracle if we can get Cerra in without a player of some note requesting a trade out of the club.

 

Same. Mahoney had a remarkable capacity to turn what we want into what we need. Hopefully he left his playbook lying around

More instability at the blues.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675266/-back-me-or-sack-me-carlton-parts-ways-with-ceo-liddle

Surely not an attractive look to entice players across

 

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:29, Nascent said:

More instability at the blues.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/675266/-back-me-or-sack-me-carlton-parts-ways-with-ceo-liddle

Surely not an attractive look to entice players across

 

@dazzledavey36 🤔

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:32, Lord Nev said:

@dazzledavey36 🤔

Surely Cerra would be crazy to see Carlton as a potential destination?

Board level and football department just too unstable. 

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:44, dazzledavey36 said:

Surely Cerra would be crazy to see Carlton as a potential destination?

Board level and football department just too unstable. 

Have a read back through my messages mate ;)

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:47, Lord Nev said:

Have a read back through my messages mate ;)

You pm'ing info?

 

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:49, faultydet said:

You pm'ing info?

Only when it's not solid enough to post mate.

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:50, Lord Nev said:

Only when it's not solid enough to post mate.

just checked my inbox.

 

it's empty. maybe you know someone who can give it some love?

 

.

Edited September 10, 20213 yr by Nascent
Double up

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:50, Lord Nev said:

Only when it's not solid enough to post mate.

 

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:52, faultydet said:

just checked my inbox.

 

it's empty. maybe you know someone who can give it some love?

 

Can I join the inbox love?

Can I as well please @Lord Nev ?

May as well post it here @Lord Nev.

We all want in on it now.

It is a supporters forum after all.

@Lord Nev 🙋‍♂️

Lord Nev! Hand up

  On 10/09/2021 at 02:55, Nascent said:

Can I join the inbox love?

 

  On 10/09/2021 at 03:31, ChaserJ said:

Can I as well please @Lord Nev ?

 

  On 10/09/2021 at 03:35, JimmyGadson said:

May as well post it here @Lord Nev.

We all want in on it now.

It is a supporters forum after all.

 

  On 10/09/2021 at 03:38, Grimes Times said:

@Lord Nev 🙋‍♂️

Apologies guys, I'm gonna hold fire for now. Only very very sketchy rumours at the moment, really would not be worth posting. If things get any more solid I will post for sure.