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Petracca - made good decisions 

Salem - cool under pressure

Gawn - dominated the centre

Langdon - dominated the edges

Oliver - reverted to handballs 

Jordon - some important touches

Brayshaw - 4 consistent quarters

May - was a dynamo

Harmes - disciplined and important 

Hibberd - tough but fumbly

Hunt - importantly limited Tipa

Viney - a promising return

Lever - impassable yet again

McDonald - limited but important 

Neal-Bullen- was rarely noticed

Rivers - brave and involved 

Sparrow - one valuable goal

Jackson - had limited involvement 

Fritsch - was rarely sighted

Spargo - effective with disposals

Petty - continued doing enough

Pickett - simplicity can work

 

 

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Oliver - take first option  (or .. being too cleaver)

ANB - MIA

Jackson - just kick it

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Just now, Lord Nev said:

Had more hitouts and was better around the ground for sure, but if he "dominated" him wouldn't we have won the clearances?

Not really.  The ruckman isn't the sole determinant of the clearance.  And I know you know that.

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40 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Centre clearances - 9 each (They beat us for stoppage clearances)

Not sure I would say 'dominated'.

10 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Had more hitouts and was better around the ground for sure, but if he "dominated" him wouldn't we have won the clearances?

5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Sure, but if you're "dominating" the hitouts you would think you wouldn't lose the clearances yeah?

Mate, Gawn absolutely destroyed Draper today.

We didn't lose the clearances because of Gawn. We lost them because Jackson struggled in the ruck (he was hobbling at three quarter time, was he injured?) and because Merrett played a blinder and Parish is in AA form.

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5 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Sure, but if you're "dominating" the hitouts you would think you wouldn't lose the clearances yeah?

Yeah 32 to 10 is a comprehensive hitout victory.  Plenty of those to advantage as well. The point about clearance stands.  The bombers have some decent clearance players and at times they were better than Oliver, Petracca, Viney and Harmes.  I thought Jackson was poor in the ruck tonight too and he got a substantial run at it.  But as I said to the Bomber fans I was sitting amongst tonight, it's an opinion game and we all see what we want to see.

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Just now, titan_uranus said:

Mate, Gawn absolutely destroyed Draper today.

We didn't lose the clearances because of Gawn. We lost them because Jackson struggled in the ruck (he was hobbling at three quarter time, was he injured?) and because Merrett played a blinder and Parish is in AA form.

I agree Gawn was far better than Draper, no argument.

My point is, if you're going to say a ruckman 'dominated the centre' then that should translate into winning the centre clearances. We didn't.

I'll be interested to see the hitouts to advantage once they come out.

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Just now, Swooper1987 said:

Yeah 32 to 10 is a comprehensive hitout victory.  Plenty of those to advantage as well. The point about clearance stands.  The bombers have some decent clearance players and at times they were better than Oliver, Petracca, Viney and Harmes.  I thought Jackson was poor in the ruck tonight too and he got a substantial run at it.  But as I said to the Bomber fans I was sitting amongst tonight, it's an opinion game and we all see what we want to see.

Hitouts on their own are a useless stat.

What are the hitouts to advantage stats from tonight? I haven't seen them loaded yet, sounds like you have.

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Just now, Lord Nev said:

I agree Gawn was far better than Draper, no argument.

My point is, if you're going to say a ruckman 'dominated the centre' then that should translate into winning the centre clearances. We didn't.

I'll be interested to see the hitouts to advantage once they come out.

According to the MCG scoreboard we had 10 HOTA at half time.  Not certain what the second half looked like.

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1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

I agree Gawn was far better than Draper, no argument.

My point is, if you're going to say a ruckman 'dominated the centre' then that should translate into winning the centre clearances. We didn't.

I'll be interested to see the hitouts to advantage once they come out.

Mmm semantics maybe, but yes if anyone "dominated the centre" it was Merrett.

I'd say Gawn dominated his opponent, which was critical to our win.

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1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

Mmm semantics maybe, but yes if anyone "dominated the centre" it was Merrett.

I'd say Gawn dominated his opponent, which was critical to our win.

Again, I agree he dominated his opponent, I just can't agree he 'dominated the centre' when clearly that's not reflected in the team's performance in that area.

Probably semantics, but i just think Gawn is a little off in the centre bounces this year. I'm guessing it's his leg but not sure.

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Petracca - important needed goals 

Salem - cool, calm, collected

Gawn - Solid, no spectacular

Langdon - 10 marks telling

Oliver - Mr. turnover king  

Jordon - 2 important goals

Brayshaw - Better by foot

May - Good but slack (when Hooker marked)

Harmes - 2 costly misses

Hibberd - some costly fumbles.

Hunt - took on game

Viney - A welcome addition

Lever - didn't drop marks

McDonald - meh, just ok. 

Neal-Bullen- 1 costly fumble

Rivers - important mark late

Sparrow - Mr.Clutch baby

Jackson - WTF was that (referring to the effort using his left)

Fritsch - caught Weideman bug.

Spargo - becoming fan favourite.

Petty - honestly didn't notice.

Pickett - mistake after mistake. (overrunning the ball late was very costly)

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15 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Mate, Gawn absolutely destroyed Draper today.

We didn't lose the clearances because of Gawn. We lost them because Jackson struggled in the ruck (he was hobbling at three quarter time, was he injured?) and because Merrett played a blinder and Parish is in AA form.

Just to clarify, we're talking centre clearances here.

For the record - Merrett 0 centre clearances, Parish 2 centre clearances.

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