COVID & AFL 2021

[Diamond_Jim 12,628]

Let's hope Anna doesn't offer "to save the AFL" again

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[Guest]

The only beneficiary amidst all this is Collingwood: it takes the spotlight away from the hot mess their club is atm. 
But fear not, I have total confidence in them to once again jump onto the front burner. 

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

1 hour ago, Kent said:

I think its appalling that Nursing home residents remain un vaccinated.

What the hell is going on??

we have vaccinated less than 400000 people In the same time USA have done  50% of the population

Our current rate is 15% or something Third world status

 

Dude, we are at 2%. 
 

Yes, you read that right. 

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,909]

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

The only beneficiary amidst all this is Collingwood: it takes the spotlight away from the hot mess their club is atm. 
But fear not, I have total confidence in them to once again jump onto the front burner. 

Another beneficiary might be the AFL if the NRL decides not to proceed with the NRL State of Origin game at the MCG in early June. 

[ManDee 7,222]

39 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

It's quite simple.  There are more people than mRNA vaccines.  It's critical that we get vaccinated to return to a normal life and save lives.  So those that are in the (already) low risk bracket get AZ and those in the low but slightly higher risk get mRNA,

Your attitude means these lockdowns will likely go on for many more months than necessary if those that can safely get vacinnated don't.  We live in a community and what we do is important to that community.

Bob I agree there are limited doses available, I agree that the under 50's are at a slightly higher risk of blood clots. Can you agree that those that want to be vaccinated should be able to now, and that those that are prepared to wait have the right to do so? I put it to you that there are not enough doses or capacity at the moment to vaccinate  everyone that wants a vaccine now. I am an adult and understand the risks. I will give up my place in the queue to someone who wants AZ now and will happily wait until the vaccine I choose is available, I will wait my turn.

Your assertion that my attitude will extend lock-downs for many more months is factually incorrect. If I give up my place to an under 50 that wants to be vaccinated now it does not extend any lock-down. The vaccine queue is no longer, I simply move back in the queue. My choice.

Edited May 27, 2021 by ManDee
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[—coach— 3,496]

2 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Dude, we are at 2%. 
 

Yes, you read that right. 

1.3% fully vaccinated

13% single shot

was published on the age website the other day

[Jibroni 5,009]

My colleagues at Champion Data think the Brisbane game will be in Sydney next week if the Melbourne outbreak is not contained. 

Edited May 27, 2021 by Jibroni

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

4 minutes ago, —coach— said:

1.3% fully vaccinated

13% single shot

was published on the age website the other day

The comparison was against fully-vaccinated Americans. 
 

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by Mel Bourne

[—coach— 3,496]

2 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

The comparison was against fully-vaccinated Americans. 
 

 

Sorry wasn’t having a go, agree with you that the fully vaccinated percentage is terrible 

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[Demonland 73,140]

 

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

13 minutes ago, —coach— said:

Sorry wasn’t having a go, agree with you that the fully vaccinated percentage is terrible 

Oh no, didn’t take it that way. 
 

But the comparison of fully-vaccinated Americans vs Australians really does serve to illustrate just how inept the government has been at both rolling the vaccine out, and getting the messaging right. 
 

And of course our ever-degrading media have been dreadful with their insatiable appetite for content. This blood-clot narrative is on them. I’m not suggesting blood-clots don’t occur (extremely infrequently) due to the vaccine, but when was the last time you saw a news story/article about clots relating to the contraceptive pill? You simply don’t, because it’s not “interesting” enough, even though the risk is significantly higher. I could go on about this, at times, pathetically apathetic country and it’s so-called “leadership”...
 

Excuse my spleen. For a bunch of personal reasons, this particular lockdown has timed even worse than the other ones and I am fuming today. Better to try and stay away from comment boxes...

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

31 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Let's hope Anna doesn't offer "to save the AFL" again

Oh please no.

Hoping our game gets moved elsewhere at the last minutes seeing as though we can't attend. Probably a better chance of beating the Dogs in Sydney or Canberra than at Marvel.

[—coach— 3,496]

2 minutes ago, Mel Bourne said:

Oh no, didn’t take it that way. 
 

But the comparison of fully-vaccinated Americans vs Australians really does serve to illustrate just how inept the government has been at both rolling the vaccine out, and getting the messaging right. 
 

And of course our ever-degrading media have been dreadful with their insatiable appetite for content. This blood-clot narrative is on them. I’m not suggesting blood-clots don’t occur (extremely infrequently) due to the vaccine, but when was the last time you saw a news story/article about clots relating to the contraceptive pill? You simply don’t, because it’s not “interesting” enough, even though the risk is significantly higher. I could go on about this, at times, pathetically apathetic country and it’s so-called “leadership”...
 

Excuse my spleen. For a bunch of personal reasons, this particular lockdown has timed even worse than the other ones and I am fuming today. Better to try and stay away from comment boxes...

Agree whole-heartedly, and I hope you and all Demonlanders remain safe and well over the coming days/weeks.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

Media conference at 11. 
Seven day lockdown. 
Welcome back to hell caused by the utter incompetence of multiple governments. Hooray. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

To be fair at the time, he had the Pfizer I'm not sure the AZ had been approved by our authorities. 

Even if AZ had been approved it is worth noting that Albanese also had a Pfizer shott and has now had his second albanese-gets-his-second-pfizer

I'm happy for our country's leaders to be vaccinated as early as possible.

Btw, Morrison's wife, mother and mother-in-law have had the AZ.  His daughters haven't been vaccinated as they are not age eligible.

Balanced posting on such a critical subject would be useful.

Albenese isn't the leader LH.  Balanced posting?  Nothing i have posted isn't factual regardless of whether some posters like or don't like it due to their political tendencies or otherwise.

The Libs placing a huge bet / investment on AZ and pushing so hard for ALL to use it including threats and bribes, at least until their back flip on Sunday, might also be explained in part by the fact that there is (or was at the time of signing) an ex Senior Lib Staffer on the board of AZ Australia...

https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/08/20/from-lib-staffer-to-big-pharma-an-unsurprising-journey-of-lobbying-at-work/

Demons player reported as supposedly attending an exposure sight now 

[Demonland 73,140]

Discuss the Dees player here please: https://demonland.com/forums/topic/50314-dees-player-at-covid-site

 

[brendan 3,437]

When are the government going to learn, stop the flights coming in and you stop the virus 

[Superunknown 4,223]

32 minutes ago, ManDee said:

Bob I agree there are limited doses available, I agree that the under 50's are at a slightly higher risk of blood clots. Can you agree that those that want to be vaccinated should be able to now, and that those that are prepared to wait have the right to do so? I put it to you that there are not enough doses or capacity at the moment to vaccinate  everyone that wants a vaccine now. I am an adult and understand the risks. I will give up my place in the queue to someone who wants AZ now and will happily wait until the vaccine I choose is available, I will wait my turn.

Your assertion that my attitude will extend lock-downs for many more months is factually incorrect. If I give up my place to an under 50 that wants to be vaccinated now it does not extend any lock-down. The vaccine queue is no longer, I simply move back in the queue. My choice.

Probably useful to draw a distinction between AZ and Pfizer.

CSL apparently are producing 1M doses/week in AU. I think I read another 500k/month coming in. They are not all being used (apparently). GP clinics (in NSW at least) have ample AZ due to the hesitancy. All of which to say anyone over 50 could go and get AZ right now without issue. The mass vac centre in Mel has ample spare capacity at present, as of 3 days ago. Anyone under 50 could also get it, should they wish to do so.

Pfizer is another story - I think I read that another 20M are due by end of year - that doesn't help now obviously. Elderly, disabled, 1A/1B need doing first. Doesn't help those under 50 who wish to get it obviously.

I think I read Moderna have 20M coming before EOCY with another 20M Q1CY2022.

[Mel Bourne 4,534]

6 minutes ago, brendan said:

When are the government going to learn, stop the flights coming in and you stop the virus 

What would have been an idea (months ago) was to put stranded citizens in “hot” countries on a form of jobkeeper from a distance. The majority of people who needed to return were stuck for financial reasons. Keep them there, but keep them financially supported. 

Edited May 27, 2021 by Mel Bourne

[Superunknown 4,223]

6 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Albenese isn't the leader LH.  Balanced posting?  Nothing i have posted isn't factual regardless of whether some posters like or don't like it due to their political tendencies or otherwise.

The Libs placing a huge bet / investment on AZ and pushing so hard for ALL to use it including threats and bribes, at least until their back flip on Sunday, might also be explained in part by the fact that there is (or was at the time of signing) an ex Senior Lib Staffer on the board of AZ Australia...

https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/08/20/from-lib-staffer-to-big-pharma-an-unsurprising-journey-of-lobbying-at-work/

Demons player reported as supposedly attending an exposure sight now 

You aren't suggesting Game of Mates is at play are you RN! I'm shocked - SHOCKED! Let's not forget Pfizer and Moderna mid last year came knocking and said how much do you need (apparently) and local mRNA mfg capacity was raised early last year....