TRIGON 4,821 Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 With this year's draft being compromised by: 1. Academies 2. Father-Sons, and 3. Disruptions to competitions What does next year's crop look like? Is it enticing enough to warrant the likes of Preuss, ANB, Macs O&T, Bedford being traded for future picks? Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Really tough to gauge what is ahead for 2021. There’s 5-8 top youngsters who are standing out in the WA Colts and SA under 18s. But given no Vic under 18s in 2020, best indicator is 2019 under 16 championships. I’m still happy to trade out our MFC 2021 2nd pick for Tom Phillips as he brings a desperately needed fix straight away. 2 Quote
TRIGON 4,821 Posted October 12, 2020 Author Posted October 12, 2020 Thanks @spirit of norm smith, Beyond that, I'm interested in any insights into the quality and depth of the 2021 draft. Can add into the equation the RFA and pre-RFA's that may become part of the picture - is it worth building a bank of picks so that we're positioned to be major players? Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 I know the Lions have earmarked another few youngsters for the 2021 draft as very strong performers and will continue to get an arm chair ride to pick up quality local kids out of QLD. Pies have Youseph Dib in their NGA program and is highly rated as a potential top 25 player. Of course they also get access to Nick Daicos in 2021 draft and he is top 10 quality. Unfortunately Dees will not get such benefits on the near horizon. 1 1 Quote
Leopold Bloom 406 Posted December 10, 2020 Posted December 10, 2020 A look ahead: The 21 top prospects for 2021 AFL Draft Central nominates the top 21 draft prospects for 2021 including its top contender: Jason Horne (South Adelaide/South Australia) 21/06/2003 | 182cm/75kg Inside Midfielder/Forward The remaining top 20 contenders (alphabetical order) Braden Andrews (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro) 21/02/2003 | 189cm/83kg Midfielder/Utility Samuel Banks (Clarence/Tasmania) 2/04/2003 | 186cm/72kg Midfielder/Half-Back Rhett Bazzo (Swan Districts/Western Australia) 17/10/2003 | 194cm/74kg Tall Defender Cooper Beecken (Glenelg/South Australia) 24/02/2003 | 188cm/72kg Defender Lachlan Brooks (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro) 1/02/2003 | 179cm/75kg Inside Midfielder Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country) 27/04/2003 | 185cm/79kg Half-Back/Wing Nick Daicos (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro) 01/03/2003 | 183cm/72kg Balanced Midfielder Arlo Draper (South Adelaide/South Australia) 30/01/2003 | 185cm/71kg Midfielder/Forward Joshua Fahey (Gold Coast Academy/NSW/ACT) 11/11/2003 | 186cm/76kg Half-Back/Outside Midfielder Ben Hobbs (GWV Rebels/Vic Country) 15/09/2003 | 182cm/76kg Inside Midfielder Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/Western Australia) 16/03/2003 | 192cm/80kg Inside Midfielder Alex Lukic (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro) 7/01/2003 | 195cm/86kg Key Forward Charlie Molan (GWV Rebels/Vic Country) 23/01/2003 | 186cm/78kg Midfielder/Utility Cooper Murley (Norwood/South Australia) 20/06/2003 | 177cm/66kg Small Midfielder/Forward Joshua Rachele (Murray Bushranger/Vic Country) 11/04/2003 | 179cm/77kg Small Midfielder/Forward Lewis Rayson (Glenelg/South Australia) 14/01/2003 | 181cm/64kg Half-Back Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide/South Australia) 31/07/2003 | 183cm/76kg Midfielder/Forward Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro) 28/01/03 | 186cm/72kg Half-Back/Midfielder Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro) 27/01/2003 | 181cm/74kg Midfielder/Forward Jacob Van Rooyen (Claremont/Western Australia) 16/04/2003 | 194cm/88kg Key Forward Some others included in the mix are a couple of South Australian father-son prospects with famous names (Wanganeen and Burgoyne) and a cousin of were others to show Kysaiah Pickett who has links to a club in Adelaide. It comes as no surprise that he’s described as “small”. 2 1 Quote
TRIGON 4,821 Posted December 10, 2020 Author Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) Thanks for that @Leopold Bloom. Clicked on this thread this morning and wondered what [censored] started this thread so early...oh [censored]. Edited December 10, 2020 by TRIGON 1 Quote
IvanBartul13 2,564 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Leopold Bloom said: A look ahead: The 21 top prospects for 2021 AFL Draft Central nominates the top 21 draft prospects for 2021 including its top contender: Jason Horne (South Adelaide/South Australia) 21/06/2003 | 182cm/75kg Inside Midfielder/Forward The remaining top 20 contenders (alphabetical order) Braden Andrews (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro) 21/02/2003 | 189cm/83kg Midfielder/Utility Samuel Banks (Clarence/Tasmania) 2/04/2003 | 186cm/72kg Midfielder/Half-Back Rhett Bazzo (Swan Districts/Western Australia) 17/10/2003 | 194cm/74kg Tall Defender Cooper Beecken (Glenelg/South Australia) 24/02/2003 | 188cm/72kg Defender Lachlan Brooks (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro) 1/02/2003 | 179cm/75kg Inside Midfielder Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Country) 27/04/2003 | 185cm/79kg Half-Back/Wing Nick Daicos (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro) 01/03/2003 | 183cm/72kg Balanced Midfielder Arlo Draper (South Adelaide/South Australia) 30/01/2003 | 185cm/71kg Midfielder/Forward Joshua Fahey (Gold Coast Academy/NSW/ACT) 11/11/2003 | 186cm/76kg Half-Back/Outside Midfielder Ben Hobbs (GWV Rebels/Vic Country) 15/09/2003 | 182cm/76kg Inside Midfielder Matthew Johnson (Subiaco/Western Australia) 16/03/2003 | 192cm/80kg Inside Midfielder Alex Lukic (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro) 7/01/2003 | 195cm/86kg Key Forward Charlie Molan (GWV Rebels/Vic Country) 23/01/2003 | 186cm/78kg Midfielder/Utility Cooper Murley (Norwood/South Australia) 20/06/2003 | 177cm/66kg Small Midfielder/Forward Joshua Rachele (Murray Bushranger/Vic Country) 11/04/2003 | 179cm/77kg Small Midfielder/Forward Lewis Rayson (Glenelg/South Australia) 14/01/2003 | 181cm/64kg Half-Back Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide/South Australia) 31/07/2003 | 183cm/76kg Midfielder/Forward Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro) 28/01/03 | 186cm/72kg Half-Back/Midfielder Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro) 27/01/2003 | 181cm/74kg Midfielder/Forward Jacob Van Rooyen (Claremont/Western Australia) 16/04/2003 | 194cm/88kg Key Forward Some others included in the mix are a couple of South Australian father-son prospects with famous names (Wanganeen and Burgoyne) and a cousin of were others to show Kysaiah Pickett who has links to a club in Adelaide. It comes as no surprise that he’s described as “small”. Great post, Horne, Daicos, Murley, Rachele, Roberts, Sinn and Sonsie all probably would be in top 10 plantoms, Burgoyne probably as well. I think you refer to Gavin Wanganeen's son Tex Wanganeen. There is another Wanganeen, as well, who should be in that list - Nasiah Wanganeen - who incidentally is the son of former North Melbourne defender Eddie Sansbury but is an intriguing indigenous prospect - 187cm 64kg at the moment, loves to carry the ball from half-back. 2 1 Quote
poita 3,945 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 Pretty exciting really to contemplate who we might get with our first pick at #40 or thereabouts in a strong draft. Or will we trade away first round picks for the next 10 years to get back into the first round? 1 3 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, poita said: Pretty exciting really to contemplate who we might get with our first pick at #40 or thereabouts in a strong draft. Or will we trade away first round picks for the next 10 years to get back into the first round? This is the new skill of the recruitment team. I’m expected an actuarial department to be added. 1 Quote
Mt. Dee-Maaan 608 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 for anyone that actually thinks we won't have a round one pick next year... i don't know what to tell ya, but i am pretty sure we will have AT LEAST one.. once we get rid of t-mac, potentially brayshaw and a few others, we will be right to go again with youngsters/a rd 1 pick for trade. 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 The next couple of seasons are going to present a number of new challenges to recruiters. How to catch up with what's been lost during Covid19 in 2020? If we take this year's Under 18s in Victoria, there would be numerous players who recruiters have not been able to keeps tabs on because they simply have been unseen unless invited to combines. This filters down to this year's bottom agers and younger players who have been developing in all aspects and many potential high level players would be virtually unknown to drafters. I know of players in NAB Cup Under 17 squads for 2021 who are there basically because of what they did in 2019. There would be many among their peers who have in the interim grown and matured physically and mentally at the same time who might deserve recognition and inclusion into squads but might not get the opportunity for training and further improvement because they've become part of the Covid backlog. 4 Quote
adonski 13,280 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, poita said: Pretty exciting really to contemplate who we might get with our first pick at #40 or thereabouts in a strong draft. Or will we trade away first round picks for the next 10 years to get back into the first round? Yes, in all seriousness I fully expect to trade the 2022 first round pick among other things to get back into the 21' draft. 1 Quote
Kent 2,920 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 20 hours ago, Rocky said: for anyone that actually thinks we won't have a round one pick next year... i don't know what to tell ya, but i am pretty sure we will have AT LEAST one.. once we get rid of t-mac, potentially brayshaw and a few others, we will be right to go again with youngsters/a rd 1 pick for trade. Weiderman for the Pies first pick will do me! 1 Quote
Leopold Bloom 406 Posted December 11, 2020 Posted December 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, Kent said: Weiderman for the Pies first pick will do me! Name is Weideman and the Pies first pick is a Round 2 selection. I’d rather that Sam has a great season in 2021 now that he’s second dibs behind Ben Brown in our key forward stakes, that he learns from Brown’s presence and they play in a successful side. 5 Quote
ChaserJ 5,192 Posted December 12, 2020 Posted December 12, 2020 Horne looks like an absolute jet. AFL’s 10 to watch: https://www.afl.com.au/news/527650/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2021 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 The 21 best prospects have been selected in an elite academy squad ~ 2021 AFL Academy Squad announced Father-son pair among 21 players in elite AFL Academy squad 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 Here’s the Herald Sun’s compilation of top prospects for 2021:- The top AFL draft prospects to watch in 2021 1 Quote
Pennant St Dee 13,460 Posted December 19, 2020 Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/12/2020 at 8:10 AM, ChaserJ said: Horne looks like an absolute jet. AFL’s 10 to watch: https://www.afl.com.au/news/527650/eye-on-the-future-10-draft-prospects-to-watch-in-2021 Neil Erasmus is one to watch Chaser, another Sorrento Duncraig boy who had an outstanding Colts grand final for Subi. Won't play many games at Subi till late as he has PSA commitments at Hale 1 1 Quote
Chelly 859 Posted December 22, 2020 Posted December 22, 2020 Time for Chelly’s 2021 Top 10 Draft Picks:- 1. Jason Horne (Sth Adelaide, SA) 2. Nick Daicos (Oakleigh Chargers - Collingwood Father/Son) 3. Josh Rachele (Murray Bushrangers) 4. Josh Sinn (Sandringham Dragons) 5. Ben Hobbs (GWV Rebels) 6. Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges) 7. Lachlan Brooks (Sandringham Dragons) 8. Jacob Van Rooyen (Claremont, WA) 9. Joshua Browne (East Fremantle, WA) 10. Campbell Chessar (Sandringham Dragons) 2 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,680 Posted December 23, 2020 Posted December 23, 2020 I thought GC Suns would look to preselect or draft Max Pescud. Strong 2019 as a 17 year old and played in the 2020 Suns Academy v Lions Academy game up here this year. Pace and skill. Too good not to be in recruiters sights. Might get a call from Southport Sharks to be in the new expanded eastern league team. One kid who might be given 2nd look in next years draft. 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 Jason Horne - pity our first pick is somewhere in Round 2 of the draft at the moment. Potential No.1 draft pick with 'great highlights package' exciting recruiters 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 They usually do the testing at the Combines at the end of the season but this is something new. Another Rising Star in the making? Docker's brother impresses in testing Kobi George, one of our New Generation Academy players featured in the 20m sprints. 2 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 Knightmare’s first power rankings for 2021 - April. No surprises there - Horne @ #1 and Daicos in the top 5. 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,880 Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 As Horne is the step-son of Fabian Francis, is he eligible for anyone as a father-son? or did he not play enough games to qualify for us, the bears, or the power? 1 Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 On 4/2/2021 at 4:33 PM, whatwhat say what said: As Horne is the step-son of Fabian Francis, is he eligible for anyone as a father-son? or did he not play enough games to qualify for us, the bears, or the power? Fabian Francis played one game for Melbourne. I think that might be a touch short of what’s needed to qualify even if he was the biological father. 2 1 Quote
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