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16 hours ago, godees said:

He knows what he is doing. Last year wanted Georgiadis in the twenties (picked at ?18, earlier than predicted) and was very keen on Zac Butters. Both very handy players for this stage of their careers.

Our draft picks are also influenced by the coaches and outcome of trades. 

I’m afraid you’re more positive on Jason Taylor than me.  Really needs at least two out of Petty, Sparrow, Jordan & Dunkley to become good players for me to give him a Pass considering his misses.  

 
22 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

I’m afraid you’re more positive on Jason Taylor than me.  Really needs at least two out of Petty, Sparrow, Jordan & Dunkley to become good players for me to give him a Pass considering his misses.  

Marlion Pickett is tearing it up for the tiges. Dunno what taylor saw in Dunkley to pick him ahead of pickett.

 
14 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I see Brayshaw is still getting a game. That probably answers your question.

I am wondering of the refusal to play Brayshaw in the middle has something to do with strength issues in his arm. Elbow tendon injuries like he had over summer are notorious for taking 12-18mnths to get your strength back,.

 

11 hours ago, Elegt said:

Marlion Pickett is tearing it up for the tiges. Dunno what taylor saw in Dunkley to pick him ahead of pickett.

Hardly tearing it up. Once with more than 8 kicks. 3 games with 1 goal. meh...

 

 

Did I mention he was 28yo?

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13 hours ago, godees said:

He didn’t chose to trade 6 - that is a list management decision.
Goodwin’s influence is all over many of our recent selections eg Sparrow, Jordon - more inside mids when we have a million.

I'll give you Sparrow, but is Jordon an inside mid?  I always got the impression he was more of a flanker than anything else.

12 hours ago, Elegt said:

Marlion Pickett is tearing it up for the tiges. Dunno what taylor saw in Dunkley to pick him ahead of pickett.

Not sure Marlion Pickett was right for us and not nailing a Pre Season Draft pick, albeit a number 2 is in itself not a hanging offence but it appears from a distance that both Collingwood (Noble) & Essendon (Snelling) have added quick players that have both become far more regular additions in their teams than what Dunkley has in ours.

Maybe Dunkley will become the better player of all 3, however, that isn't the case right now and Dunkley was not the type we were screaming out for.  Noble is probably much more of that type.

More importantly, you can't keep missing with Picks in the 20's & 30's which is why it is critical that at least two out of Petty, Sparrow, & Jordan become solid B Grade players.

 

15 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Not sure Marlion Pickett was right for us and not nailing a Pre Season Draft pick, albeit a number 2 is in itself not a hanging offence but it appears from a distance that both Collingwood (Noble) & Essendon (Snelling) have added quick players that have both become far more regular additions in their teams than what Dunkley has in ours.

Maybe Dunkley will become the better player of all 3, however, that isn't the case right now and Dunkley was not the type we were screaming out for.  Noble is probably much more of that type.

More importantly, you can't keep missing with Picks in the 20's & 30's which is why it is critical that at least two out of Petty, Sparrow, & Jordan become solid B Grade players.

 

I'd argue that pickett was a perfect fit for us. Would add experience as well as a bit of pace for us. Unfortunately all our new draftees from the last 3 years are not quite ready so it would be good to have an older body in the team. I reckon Pickett is doing quite well, whilst Dunkley looks like a delist, just doesn't seem to have the pace for AFL level. I always thought the pre season draft was ideal to fill immediate needs during the season, rather than drafting a kid in the hope they make it.

 
13 hours ago, Elegt said:

Marlion Pickett is tearing it up for the tiges. Dunno what taylor saw in Dunkley to pick him ahead of pickett.

This is sinking to new lows of hindsight stupidity, even by your horrendously low standards.

Pickett was taken in a mid-season rookie draft at age 28.

Every club, including Richmond, passed on him previously.

He's played one outstanding game in the GF, where Richmond's opponent didn't exist. He otherwise averages 12 touches a game. Hardly "tearing it up". And he was dropped earlier this year.

Middle of last year we were heading towards the bottom 4. How does an unproven 28 year old flashy player help us? 

16 hours ago, grazman said:

Traded for Pick 31 which we used on Bayley Fritsch.  like for like...

Hardly. That is what they hoped for, and what we might have thought we got.

But there is a big enough body of evidence to say now Fritter is not an elite kick. Average but not elite. Just look at his turnovers and missed set shots this year for reference.

Or did you mean fritter is also a party boy?

 


2 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

I'll give you Sparrow, but is Jordon an inside mid?  I always got the impression he was more of a flanker than anything else.

Jordon was drafted as a half back flanker, but has since been turned into an inside mid in VFL. Another tick for Goodwins masterplan to have an entire team made up of 22 inside mids!

21 hours ago, kev martin said:

"A fierce wll to win" isn't just a bull at the gate type. In team sports it requires players chemistry and cohesion. 

I believe that it is about making the others around you better players, because without that we lose.

 

Yes that's true. Good points.

I do wonder though a will to win can be confused with how ferocious player is at the contest, even by recruiters and and that it means selections can be weighted to the bull at gate type, like Viney for example.

On Viney, he certainly has a will to win and is fierce at the contest. unfortunately he lacks the skill set to help us win. 

14 minutes ago, binman said:

Yes that's true. Good points.

I do wonder though a will to win can be confused with how ferocious player is at the contest, even by recruiters and and that it means selections can be weighted to the bull at gate type, like Viney for example.

On Viney, he certainly has a will to win and is fierce at the contest. unfortunately he lacks the skill set to help us win. 

I find the problem with this list is alot of them dont have that killer mentality that viney has. They seem to be okay with a loss rather than hate losing. Blokes like brayshaw fritsch melksham and harmes are big culprits.

On 8/4/2020 at 8:43 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

Jackson is lost as a KPF. He runs to the pockets and his marking is still requiring work.  No contested marks in the last 3 weeks.  His go is his athleticism and 2nd efforts.  Both outstanding.  More midfield like. So his position is Ruck in the mould of Brodie Grundy. Given we have Max who should play until his 33-34, I think Jackson is 3-4 years away from assuming the ruck role.   My “Eagles” mate reckons they see him replacing Nic-Nat and will entice him home with a truckload of cash to get him.  

Bahahaha ???

 

Do us all a favour, and stop it. 

On 8/4/2020 at 10:40 PM, Elegt said:

Marlion Pickett is tearing it up for the tiges. Dunno what taylor saw in Dunkley to pick him ahead of pickett.

Tearring it up? We’re now assessing a mid season draft? On a bloke overlooked by 16 clubs 6-7 times each? Seriously some of you ppl make it REALLY hard to even peruse these posts.. holy heck what a spud comment   


On 8/4/2020 at 3:54 PM, jnrmac said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/353939/club-champion-fifth-jack-watts?videoId=353939&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1473317040001

Anyone thinking the decision to get rid of Watts was wrong only needs to look at the 2016 B&F when Watts came 5th. Have a look at his cringeworthy speech and Roos' intro that stated that "Jack decided to become a great player"

Start of next season he was dropped from all of the pre-season games because he came back out of shape. He was gone at season's end.

Watts is a wasted talent. The world is full of them. Football wasnt of great interest to Jack he'd rather go motorboating with buxom women.

Hmm doesn't seem all that bad jnr. Boating with buxom women, not the worst alternative. Seriously he was one of the best kicks in the team.

On 8/4/2020 at 7:50 PM, Dr. Gonzo said:

I see Brayshaw is still getting a game. That probably answers your question.

Getting a game cus of what we saw 2nd half last night - he’s a gun kick and decision makers who’s playing out of position but that when gets it, can slice through an opposition a commodity we have in very slight stock.. we will get balance right eventually and he will find his way just like Clayton will last night another shining example of how coaching and making adjustments can make world of difference to a player!  

On 8/5/2020 at 10:44 AM, Wiseblood said:

I'll give you Sparrow, but is Jordon an inside mid?  I always got the impression he was more of a flanker than anything else.

Me too

7 minutes ago, Nudge said:

Tearring it up? We’re now assessing a mid season draft? On a bloke overlooked by 16 clubs 6-7 times each? Seriously some of you ppl make it REALLY hard to even peruse these posts.. holy heck what a spud comment   

Whats wrong with reviewing a mid season draft? Its there for a reason 

10 minutes ago, Elegt said:

Whats wrong with reviewing a mid season draft? Its there for a reason 

If you can’t understand why you shouldn’t or why your comment is utterly ridiculous then your so far from being able to comment any the complexities of recruitment, that you shouldn’t even comment on the disparity between Watts and Natianui, let alone Dunkley to a near 29yr old Pickett who’s at best plodding along this year, and wouldn’t of seen a game past the resuming if tigers hadn’t of been so decimated! But it’s such a low end, needs based draft it’s like commenting on picks 80-88 in national draft - it’s all done on needs and spec! So please, leave it to JT mate, stick to saying things like “kick the bloody thing” or “go long to the goal square” - Questioning a man as experienced and highly regarded as Jason Taylor, when discussing the lowest priority, least researched pick he’s ever made (which was more a coaching pick than recruitment pick anyway) is an absolute abomination of absurdity.  

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27 minutes ago, Nudge said:

Bahahaha ???

 

Do us all a favour, and stop it. 

Time capsule the comments for the future. Observation was whether Jacko plays our 10 years as a Demon. Our record at keeping young star players recruited from interstate is a challenge. 

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1 hour ago, old dee said:

Hmm doesn't seem all that bad jnr. Boating with buxom women, not the worst alternative. Seriously he was one of the best kicks in the team.

OD for a start he only kicked just under 9 times a game.

Yes he could kick but that was never the issue as you well know. 9 seasons 1 top 5 finish in the B&F.

1st year at Port a chastened Jack finished 21st in the B&F

Jack was a coaster and you know it.

 

The Motorboating I totally understand.

23 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

OD for a start he only kicked just under 9 times a game.

Yes he could kick but that was never the issue as you well know. 9 seasons 1 top 5 finish in the B&F.

1st year at Port a chastened Jack finished 21st in the B&F

Jack was a coaster and you know it.

 

The Motorboating I totally understand.

Yes jnr but it is the day after a 59 points win and I am feeling happy and in the mood for a joke or two. 

 
1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Time capsule the comments for the future. Observation was whether Jacko plays our 10 years as a Demon. Our record at keeping young star players recruited from interstate is a challenge. 

Not if we are successful, good players don’t often leave successful sides. We play finals the next two years and he will be a Dee for the next 5-6 years. 

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Not if we are successful, good players don’t often leave successful sides. We play finals the next two years and he will be a Dee for the next 5-6 years. 

Agreed. But just have to aware if our track record especially since 2002.  
Thompson.  Farmer.  Hogan. All lost to the “go home factor”.  


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