36 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

this helps...

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/early-christmas-present-mcg-tenant-clubs-get-multi-million-dollar-windfall-20200603-p54z7j.html

Collingwood, Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, Carlton and Essendon will each receive home game payments estimated at between $150,000 and $200,000 per match for the remainder of the shortened season.

And there are people on here who want to cut ties with The MCC. 

We need to remain Strong ? 

We are Melbourne (not a Suburb)

The league provides equalisation payments!

However when you look how the teams with larger supporter numbers get preferential treatment from the AFLthrough Matches televised, blockbusters, on top of the natural advantage they have through supporter numbers, so larger crowds and sponsorships  the equalisation funds provided aren’t anywhere sufficient to provide a level playing field.
 

You need two decades of success to jump from where Melbourne is today to being a power club!!

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And there are people on here who want to cut ties with The MCC. 

We need to remain Strong ? 

We are Melbourne (not a Suburb)

I agree with you there swyl

Reminds me of the pea and shell game....Need some more details as to why

30 minutes ago, D4Life said:

The league provides equalisation payments!

However when you look how the teams with larger supporter numbers get preferential treatment from the AFLthrough Matches televised, blockbusters, on top of the natural advantage they have through supporter numbers, so larger crowds and sponsorships  the equalisation funds provided aren’t anywhere sufficient to provide a level playing field.
 

You need two decades of success to jump from where Melbourne is today to being a power club!!

We were Top of the Pile

We only have ourselves to blame

10 Years of winning serious games would change things drastically 

50 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And there are people on here who want to cut ties with The MCC. 

We need to remain Strong ? 

It seems the Mcc are starting to hear,  our complaints and our criticisms of them... and it's about time they did,  instead of fleecing our footy code.

16 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We were Top of the Pile

We only have ourselves to blame

10 Years of winning serious games would change things drastically 

Correct SWYL but how much confidence do have of it happening?

 

18 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We were Top of the Pile

 

We were Top of the Pile

We only have the Mcc to blame...   cheapskates.

59 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And there are people on here who want to cut ties with The MCC. 

We need to remain Strong ? 

We are Melbourne (not a Suburb)

Now watch the AFL give us only 3 or 4 home games at the 'G, while gifting the other clubs 10 games each.

#MFCSS

Just now, ding said:

Now watch the AFL give us only 3 or 4 home games at the 'G, while gifting the other clubs 10 games each.

#MFCSS

My attitude is if we play well we will get good games. If we play like junk, we get what we deserve 

2 minutes ago, ding said:

Now watch the AFL give us only 3 or 4 home games at the 'G, while gifting the other clubs 10 games each.

#MFCSS

Leaving aside the money factor we don’t play well at the G, I would rather play elsewhere our game plan doesn’t suit the G it is too big for our bomb it into the forward line. 

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

My attitude is if we play well we will get good games. If we play like junk, we get what we deserve 

Spot on SWYL if you continually finish in the bottom half dozen of the ladder you get the corresponding games. 

1 minute ago, old dee said:

Spot on SWYL if you continually finish in the bottom half dozen of the ladder you get the corresponding games. 

Sure. You cannot knock the AFL for that attitude 

It is The MFC that has to improve itself

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Sure. You cannot knock the AFL for that attitude 

It is The MFC that has to improve itself

 

7 minutes ago, old dee said:

Spot on SWYL if you continually finish in the bottom half dozen of the ladder you get the corresponding games. 

I think you both missed the tongue-in-cheek gist of my post.

#mfcss

1 minute ago, ding said:

 

I think you both missed the tongue-in-cheek gist of my post.

#mfcss

No. I am tired of watching rubbish 

Goodwin has to get it right

1 minute ago, ding said:

 

I think you both missed the tongue-in-cheek gist of my post.

#mfcss

Yep and I am putting it down to being in isolation ding. I have totally lost my sense of humour.

57 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

No. I am tired of watching rubbish 

Goodwin has to get it right

Yes, it's going to be a telling preseason....

12 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Yes, it's going to be a telling preseason....

Certainly been a long one!!

6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

If Collingwood, Essendon or Richmond played poorly for 50+ years their attendance figures would be poor just like ours can be

Richmond had a very poor record of playing finals until recently....

2 hours ago, D4Life said:

The league provides equalisation payments!

However when you look how the teams with larger supporter numbers get preferential treatment from the AFLthrough Matches televised, blockbusters, on top of the natural advantage they have through supporter numbers, so larger crowds and sponsorships  the equalisation funds provided aren’t anywhere sufficient to provide a level playing field.

Totally agree. The AFL is supposed to be an equalized competition where clubs have an opportunity to win the competition, whether it be through draft picks, fixturing or other.
But over the last 2 decades the teams at the top and been there abouts each and every year. I know we have not taken our opportunity, but should the club be financially crippled by poor fixturing because it couldn’t develop players?

On 5/31/2020 at 3:24 PM, praha said:

society isn't declining because of late stage capitalism. Market economies are perhaps at historically their strongest ever (with more slowly transitioning out of mass poverty every day).

let's not give a free pass to the degeneration public discourse; the obscene nature modern "progressive" politics; and the amplification of fractured nationalism. I don't think any of those are a result of capitaliam.

Interesting you would be critical of capitalism, though, given Melbourne's biggest problem over the past 5 decades has arguably been both its lack of market competitiveness and its inept business tact. Decades of handouts and -- surprise surprise -- we're still garbage.

How shockingly dense and weirdly confident the club was to ditch a known (and legal) revenue generator, all for the sake of some feel good "woke" PR.

But hey I guess our "morality" is in check. Right alongside our $10 million debt and few (strong) assets to ride the bump.

We don’t have a 10 million debt - 2 but effectively + 8 after sale of Leighoak what have you ever done for the Club - apart from bagging it at least get the numbers right tratior 

On 6/1/2020 at 6:56 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

The reality is that we will not be able to challenge the power clubs for many years. It would require 10-20 years of success.

The aim over the next five years should be to break out of the bottom bracket and move into the next bracket. The immediate goal should be to equal if not move ahead of Carlton and the Bulldogs both on and off field. I'm not sure we have the Board or the coach to achieve this but for once we do have the players. By pursuing a training ground etc in the Jolimont park precinct demonstrated that the Board lacked knowledge of realities.If we had adopted the Gosch's Paddock initiative three years ago it would be well in progress now if not completed.

Coaching.... well we all know that story

Complete nonsense PJ was on the front page re Jolimont Board/exec will deliver just has it has done with list mgt yes and Coaching Roos succession plan Goodwin top 4 one year drop off and we all dive for the bottom led by you well played btw have you asked the board or gone to an AGM and asked the question or do you just make this stuff up?

On 6/1/2020 at 8:28 PM, Hellish Inferno said:

Currently there are 18 teams and 22 games in the home and away season played over 23 weeks (based on 2019 season)

Compare this to Premier League where 20 teams play 38 games over about 40 weeks (also with other competitions in between)

If we stick with 18 teams, why not shorten games to approx. 90 minutes and play 36 games per season over a longer season with a bye round in the middle. That way all teams play each other twice and more opportunity to share the blockbusters etc. Push finals later into October and the cricket can wait!

Don’t disagree the integrity of the draw plus the finishing positions of the final eight can dramatically favour teams who play more bottom 10 teams to the point of earning a double chance plus hosting a home final. They will never play each other twice, but I believe you play each other once then the final eight play each other again which would finalise the positions and bring integrity. This would mean a 24 round season so an extra 2 games. The bottom 10 teams could possibly play a round robin for either draft picks or prize money. 

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Richmond had a very poor record of playing finals until recently....

Yes i know that. But they have had a lot more success than us since ‘65

They ruled the TV in the 70’s

Makes a huge difference