2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

just fyi

land height (not platform or rail height) at caulfield station is approx 38m

land height at glen huntly park is approx 49m

so there is an 11m height difference north to south with the slope down to the north

this means ovals will probably be dug in quite a few metres on one side creating an embankment which would be good for viewers without affecting sight lines for racing. Probably deep enough to allow for some lockable storage facilities to avoid the wasted time of moving gear as at aami

above heights are not precise for exact placement sites, but a reasonable indication

There are already 2 storey buildings in the middle of course, plus bbq shelters and er ablutions block. Obviously thse dont impact race viewing. And as you say the 'back straight' is on a rise.

31 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

just fyi

land height (not platform or rail height) at caulfield station is approx 38m

land height at glen huntly park is approx 49m

so there is an 11m height difference north to south with the slope down to the north

this means ovals will probably be dug in quite a few metres on one side creating an embankment which would be good for viewers without affecting sight lines for racing. Probably deep enough to allow for some lockable storage facilities to avoid the wasted time of moving gear as at aami

above heights are not precise for exact placement sites, but a reasonable indication

Great work, DC. Topographically informative.

24 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

just fyi

land height (not platform or rail height) at caulfield station is approx 38m

land height at glen huntly park is approx 49m

so there is an 11m height difference north to south with the slope down to the north

this means ovals will probably be dug in quite a few metres on one side creating an embankment which would be good for viewers without affecting sight lines for racing. Probably deep enough to allow for some lockable storage facilities to avoid the wasted time of moving gear as at aami

above heights are not precise for exact placement sites, but a reasonable indication

Just dig down and train underground.

19 minutes ago, bluey said:

Just dig down and train underground.

don't want to run into jacinta, but

5 hours ago, BangBnagBang said:

A new neighbour

Correct - our arrangement is with the CRRT directly - not the MRC (they have their own arrangement with the CRRT).

22 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Correct - our arrangement is with the CRRT directly - not the MRC (they have their own arrangement with the CRRT).

can you confirm whether the carpark area (proposed for buildings) is crrt or mrc at the moment?

31 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

can you confirm whether the carpark area (proposed for buildings) is crrt or mrc at the moment?

My understanding is that our building is not proposed to be on the carpark area (near Caulfield station) but will be in the south-east corner closer to Glenhuntly station. It has been moved a short distance from the existing location, which would have been land-locked by the Mt Scopus campus (when built). The ovals will be where they have always been planned to be out towards the start of the back straight.

1 minute ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

My understanding is that our building is not proposed to be on the carpark area (near Caulfield station) but will be in the south-east corner closer to Glenhuntly station. It has been moved a short distance from the existing location, which would have been land-locked by the Mt Scopus campus (when built). The ovals will be where they have always been planned to be out towards the start of the back straight.

the south east corner was the penultimate proposal. The first being the west side below mt scopus, and the last proposal was the north east carpark area

4 hours ago, daisycutter said:

don't want to run into jacinta, but

But what?

5 hours ago, Fritta and Turner said:

There are already 2 storey buildings in the middle of course, plus bbq shelters and er ablutions block. Obviously thse dont impact race viewing. And as you say the 'back straight' is on a rise.

Been told on good authority that the plans have been approved from council. now just a matter of whos paying for it.

apologies if this has already been said in the thread

1 minute ago, Demonology said:

Been told on good authority that the plans have been approved from council. now just a matter of whos paying for it.

apologies if this has already been said in the thread

No it hasn’t. But ambitious completion dates have been provided in lieu of any approval or tangible progression.

So that’s something

Just now, rpfc said:

No it hasn’t. But ambitious completion dates have been provided in lieu of any approval or tangible progression.

So that’s something

Thats handy enough. my mail was that our plans were approved. maybe that they are satisfactory but it has to go a step further or something. not sure i didnt ask any more questions!

Back in my day you would build the dressing sheds next to the oval, or get changed in the car.

37 minutes ago, bluey said:

Back in my day you would build the dressing sheds next to the oval, or get changed in the car.

getting changed in the car is euphemistically how jakovich did his back in, i seem to recall

Will be interesting to see actual go-with designs as opposed to broad 'concepts'

Daisy's noting of heights does provide scope for something other than bland ovals.

Others noting existing structures does kinda provide precedence of sorts for something in the guts but I'm not thinking that much is really needed as can't see it as a viable option for anything other than training.

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

the south east corner was the penultimate proposal. The first being the west side below mt scopus, and the last proposal was the north east carpark area

If you're correct - that's not ideal - the ovals will be quite a distance away. All will be revealed - eventually.

37 minutes ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

If you're correct - that's not ideal - the ovals will be quite a distance away. All will be revealed - eventually.

there is a tunnel from the carpark direct to the inner track area

of the the three different proposals this one offers quickest and most direct access to ovals

It took Essendon about 2 years from start of build to moving into the Hangar so don't think 2 years is too unrealistic. Just depends when they are ready to actually commence building vs planning.

On 21/10/2025 at 18:57, Little Goffy said:

Please introduce me to these tier 1 builders - the apartment building I live in has been getting a 4 week remedial works program done on the balconies, which probably should only take 2 weeks, ongoing since early July...

But at least there's no noise.

The main challenge is getting builders who will actually prioritise your site over their multitude of off-the-books work. Hopefully when its a big enough project that problem is solved, he said, naively.

Now there i a man who knows the reality of construction in Victoria

takes almost twice as long to build an average home than it did 20 years ago

On 22/10/2025 at 10:49, Fritta and Turner said:

There are already 2 storey buildings in the middle of course, plus bbq shelters and er ablutions block. Obviously thse dont impact race viewing. And as you say the 'back straight' is on a rise.

BBQ Shelters, it’s a sign!

It was meet a local councillor day at the library so I met one. This is what i got out of the chat and is my opinions/interpretations.

Glen Eira is lacking in sports ovals etc so the redevelopment of the middle of the race course is a good thing. MFC having access did not seem to be an issue provided the public had access other times.

Glen Eira could manage the booking of the facilities.

The original Glen Eira plan for the the MRC land (MT Scopus) was for high rise appartments. MT Scopus is not yet guaranteed to purchase the land and it is an option only.

Impression : MFC moving there would be good for the area aand local schools. It is not a major concern.

7 minutes ago, Fritta and Turner said:

The original Glen Eira plan for the the MRC land (MT Scopus) was for high rise apartments. MT Scopus is not yet guaranteed to purchase the land and it is an option only.

see Caulfield Racecourse land sale: Melbourne Racing Club defends Mount Scopus deal despite council levy dispute

4 hours ago, TRIGON said:

BBQ Shelters, it’s a sign!

This is one of the BBQ shelters as mentioned

2 minutes ago, Bleasey as that said:

This is one of the BBQ shelters as mentioned

On 22/10/2025 at 16:06, bluey said:

Back in my day you would build the dressing sheds next to the oval, or get changed in the car.

I think I have been there bluey.