Tom Papley

[Diamond_Jim 12,596]

North are reported to be offering Papley 800k plus per season

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-wrap-swans-star-given-monster-offer-daniher-wants-to-be-at-swans/news-story/8f232007cc6fd48a1a3ba1ab0a27a7f4

[Adam The God 30,275]

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Interesting how now that we’ve missed out on Elliott, Papley isn’t just looking at Carlton. 

Always got that ear of yours to the ground, don't you, mate? Incredible how you do it. Very good hearing.

As a matter of relation, since Papley wants to come to Victoria, I wonder if Sydney would entertain Papley for Hannan and a (future) second rounder? They're not getting a top 10 pick for him.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

10 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

North are reported to be offering Papley 800k plus per season

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-wrap-swans-star-given-monster-offer-daniher-wants-to-be-at-swans/news-story/8f232007cc6fd48a1a3ba1ab0a27a7f4

Of course they are.

They are the most desperate person at the dance.  

[GCDee 3,199]

18 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Yep sorry realised that after I posted

Definitely would need to remain in the top 12ish in the draft is we're giving up pick 3 for Papley. Maybe Sydney split pick 5 with GWS and give us say Papley and 11 (GWS) for pick 3 and 40

Then maybe they trade pick 3 and a second rounder to Essendon for Daniher? Just a thought 

They end up essentially trading Papley and pick 5 for Daniher and pick 18

Sounds fair to me Good scenario. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,596]

5 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Of course they are.

They are the most desperate person at the dance.  

does raise a significant salary cap issue including pay relativity for the likes of Brayshaw, Oliver and Petracca.

He's no superstar this guy

[Moonshadow 17,676]

10 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Of course they are.

They are the most desperate person at the dance.  

Normally that is @Bitter but optimistic

[Slartibartfast 17,336]

 I rate Papley higher than most here.  If someone had told me we'd trade pick three for Papley and Langdon I'd have been fairly happy.  So on that basis pick 3 for Papley and Sydney's second rounder fits.

We won't get him, his salary is the sticking point and if NM are offering $800,000 that's us out of the equation.  But he's exactly what we need and we should be in the conversation.

[Demonland 72,230]

10 minutes ago, A F said:

Always got that ear of yours to the ground, don't you, mate? Incredible how you do it. Very good hearing.

As a matter of relation, since Papley wants to come to Victoria, I wonder if Sydney would entertain Papley for Hannan and a (future) second rounder? They're not getting a top 10 pick for him.

Seems Carlton are willing to part with one deservedly or not.

[Adam The God 30,275]

40 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Seems Carlton are willing to part with one deservedly or not.

Well, they can probably afford to as they brought in a pretty handy pick 1 last year.

We haven't used one for three off seasons.

[Demonland 72,230]

Just now, Baghdad Bob said:

We won't get him, his salary is the sticking point and if NM are offering $800,000 that's us out of the equation.  But he's exactly what we need and we should be in the conversation.

Agreed. We simply cannot afford the asking price. In my opinion he's not going to choose one of the lowly clubs over another based on premiership prospect. Dollars (along with compensation to Sydney) are going to be the deciding factor. We may be able to match the compo but not the cashola.

[Demonland 72,230]

Just now, A F said:

Well, they can probably afford to as they brought in a pretty handy pick 1 last year.

We haven't used one for three off seasons.

Which is why I don't want to part with it. I'm not sold on splitting the pick either to land a Papley.

[Redleg 40,962]

The Blues into more Judd like shenanigans.

The Blues could be forced into some creative accounting work to convince Betts of his prospects of earning money as a Carlton club ambassador and club official following his retirement, according to The Herald Sun.

[Redleg 40,962]

North have the pick before Carlton. So if they have offered more and Papley wants the dollars,also since have a better pick, that makes it easier for Sydney to get Daniher.

[old55 23,624]

1 hour ago, Baghdad Bob said:

 I rate Papley higher than most here.  If someone had told me we'd trade pick three for Papley and Langdon I'd have been fairly happy.  So on that basis pick 3 for Papley and Sydney's second rounder fits.

We won't get him, his salary is the sticking point and if NM are offering $800,000 that's us out of the equation.  But he's exactly what we need and we should be in the conversation.

Agree. 

Draft picks are over rated. Posters saying flat out no to Pick 3 for Papley are effectively guaranteeing for example that Caleb Serong will be a far better player.  Risky business!

[Scoop Junior 3,472]

Obviously it depends on the talent in the draft pool, but generally speaking I would expect a superior footballer than Papley at pick 3.

He's a good player, no doubt, but he's no star. He wouldn't even be classified as a great player IMO.

Early picks give you the chance to grab a star or at least a player you hope will be in your top 6-8 players. Of course drafting is a risk, but if you don't take risks and you trade away pick 3 for good solid citizens like Papley you rob yourself of a prime opportunity to add elite talent to your list.

The general consensus on the Langdon trade is an early second round pick and I'd take Langdon over Papley.

[DubDee 25,915]

800K for Papley??  North still think they have the list to win a flag and are still topping up.  Hilarious!

papley hasnt even put in any 45-50 goal seasons.  

ave 15 touches this year and 2.8 tackles.  I don't get it.

[Slartibartfast 17,336]

28 minutes ago, Scoop Junior said:

Obviously it depends on the talent in the draft pool, but generally speaking I would expect a superior footballer than Papley at pick 3.

He's a good player, no doubt, but he's no star. He wouldn't even be classified as a great player IMO.

Early picks give you the chance to grab a star or at least a player you hope will be in your top 6-8 players. Of course drafting is a risk, but if you don't take risks and you trade away pick 3 for good solid citizens like Papley you rob yourself of a prime opportunity to add elite talent to your list.

The general consensus on the Langdon trade is an early second round pick and I'd take Langdon over Papley.

I don’t think anyone is thinking Papley for pick 3.  We’d want something pretty significant back.

[Diamond_Jim 12,596]

4 minutes ago, DubDee said:

800K for Papley??  North still think they have the list to win a flag and are still topping up.  Hilarious!

papley hasnt even put in any 45-50 goal seasons.  

ave 15 touches this year and 2.8 tackles.  I don't get it.

North aren't worried about winning a flag.  (would be nice to have though).Their aim is to remain relevant and push for the 5-10 position.

You have to admit they do a good job at it.

[AaronDaveyChipsAndGravey 390]

6 minutes ago, DubDee said:

800K for Papley??  North still think they have the list to win a flag and are still topping up.  Hilarious!

papley hasnt even put in any 45-50 goal seasons.  

ave 15 touches this year and 2.8 tackles.  I don't get it.

The circus around him is ridiculous. There's been some enormous amounts of overvaluing players worth both $$ and especially picks at the moment. Dwayno Russell suggesting Dougal Howard was worth a top 10 pick takes the cake

[Adam The God 30,275]

41 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

North aren't worried about winning a flag.  (would be nice to have though).Their aim is to remain relevant and push for the 5-10 position.

You have to admit they do a good job at it.

The 5-10 position is irrelevancy. Only going deep in finals makes you relevant.

[whatwhat say what 22,783]

Just now, A F said:

The 5-10 position is irrelevancy. Only going deep in finals makes you relevant.

under brad scott north made prelim finals three times, i think?

their last decade-plus has been far superior to ours

[Adam The God 30,275]

46 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

under brad scott north made prelim finals three times, i think?

their last decade-plus has been far superior to ours

They made two in a row, but from outside of the top 4 every time. 

Absolutely had more success than us, but the bar is so low it's not even worth mentioning. Besides, no one is saying we're particularly relevant either.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,876]

Offering that sort of money is such a Norf game thing to do. 

[Demonland 72,230]

14 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Offering that sort of money is such a Norf game thing to do. 

Also getting rejected for that sort of money is such a Norf game thing to do.

At least when we pay overs the players come to us. 

[DubDee 25,915]

49 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

North aren't worried about winning a flag.  (would be nice to have though).Their aim is to remain relevant and push for the 5-10 position.

You have to admit they do a good job at it.

Yep they are doing a great job at not winning the flag