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Jones with a full pre-season under his belt having trained in a new role (hopefully HFF) will still play enough games to get to 300. 

But if we have any better luck injury wise, I'd be surprised if he doesn't play a game or two at Casey

 
  On 03/09/2019 at 04:20, Good Lord George said:

Jones with a full pre-season under his belt having trained in a new role (hopefully HFF) will still play enough games to get to 300. 

But if we have any better luck injury wise, I'd be surprised if he doesn't play a game or two at Casey

If Jones gets a game next year it should only be to cover serious injuries and we have gone backwards. Loyalty means sheeit when you finish 17th IMV.

 
  On 03/09/2019 at 05:46, picket fence said:

If Jones gets a game next year it should only be to cover serious injuries and we have gone backwards. Loyalty means sheeit when you finish 17th IMV.

there was no one at VFL level he was keeping out in 2019.. same with Lewis.

It was a relatively easy decision club wise to give him another season. The pay drop and contract term is probably the strongest message.

Hopefully he does spend a fair time at Casey which means we have found his replacement

  On 03/09/2019 at 06:32, Diamond_Jim said:

there was no one at VFL level he was keeping out in 2019.. same with Lewis.

It was a relatively easy decision club wise to give him another season. The pay drop and contract term is probably the strongest message.

Hopefully he does spend a fair time at Casey which means we have found his replacement

Jones is still in our best 12 - 18 players.  And that's if they're all fit and healthy.  We've got a list full of C & D graders who have never been any good and probably never will be.  List cloggers.

In fact,  I'd add a couple more Jones types 'to' the team.  Even if it was only for a year or 2.  Those concerned about 1 spot out of 47 are overplaying the value of 1 spot. 

In any given year the list is often clogged up with non achievers often replaced with a new batch of non achievers.  Not just our club either.  The overall depth of talent in the AFL is quite shallow.  Good players are hard to find.  Older experienced types should be kept on instead.  Not all obviously but again,  we often bring in delisted free agents and they do nothing.  Better the devil you know. 

And Jones isn't the reason why we only won 5 games.  The whole team & FD more like it.  Everyone.

The overall list is well below par.  We can ill afford to lose any more experience. 

Why he isn't playing forward is baffling though.  He fights hard for the ball and is an excellent kick for goal.  Which is something that none of our forwards showed this year.  Fritsch if he played there all season being the exception.  Petracca if he could kick straight.

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  On 02/09/2019 at 12:42, america de cali said:

Jones in the trenches? The epitome of losers mentality. The record speaks for itself. In all our last quarter capitulations this season he’s the first to go MIA.

There are a few MIA well before mentioning  Nathan Jones. You must have a short memory.  PLEASE!  I cannot remember  you having anything good to say  about any player. Can you remember saying anything good?  Short memory.

  On 03/09/2019 at 08:27, nosoupforme said:

There are a few MIA well before mentioning  Nathan Jones. You must have a short memory.  PLEASE!  I cannot remember  you having anything good to say  about any player. Can you remember saying anything good?  Short memory.

Can’t think of many critical comments for others than for him and occasionally Viney. Last player I was very critical of was Hogan. I am generally quite positive with the rest of the list. Those two deserve criticism because they are leaders who don’t lead especially Jones.  If you could be bothered, feel welcome to trawl through my history and be proved wrong.

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  On 03/09/2019 at 01:09, Lucifer's Hero said:

Its interesting the PR made no mention of the captaincy.  It seems odd because a contract would include the club, sponsor, media responsibilities and income that go with the role.

It suggests that:

1) Jones will not relinquish the captaincy. 

2) He will relinquish the captaincy and it will be announced at a later date

Club / Pert etc might be thinking it's best to put a little space / separation between the horror that was 2019 (related Co Captains) and the hope / optimism they need to build for 2020 (Big Maxy) LH.

Bit of water under the bridge. Heal a few wounds, then give Maxy some clean air and a fresh start into 2020.

 
  On 03/09/2019 at 11:20, Rusty Nails said:

Club / Pert etc might be thinking it's best to put a little space / separation between the horror that was 2019 (related Co Captains) and the hope / optimism they need to build for 2020 (Big Maxy) LH.

Bit of water under the bridge. Heal a few wounds, then give Maxy some clean air and a fresh start into 2020.

I agree, I think an announcement of him relinquishing the captaincy won't come until after the Grand Final and we're getting into trade/draft period. 

If (I hope) Gawn is give sole duties that will happen late 2019/early 2020, as you say to allow a bit of space between the regimes. 

  On 03/09/2019 at 11:20, Rusty Nails said:

Club / Pert etc might be thinking it's best to put a little space / separation between the horror that was 2019 (related Co Captains) and the hope / optimism they need to build for 2020 (Big Maxy) LH.

Bit of water under the bridge. Heal a few wounds, then give Maxy some clean air and a fresh start into 2020.

Agree.  The B&F is Sept 30 which I  thought might be a good time to announce any captaincy changes. 

According to Viney the next day the players get their off-season fitness program.  Also memberships go on sale then.  So, my thinking was Oct 1 would be a good day to start afresh on all fronts. 

If not then, I certainly hope captaincy changes (if any) are announced in November when players return for start of preseason, rather than Feb/march which has been the practice in recent years.  I just think that if Max is to be a co-cap he needs to be the face of the club over the summer.

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I think we all agree that NJ has been a warrior for the MFC especially during some dark times over many years, however, the thought of giving him another year or two just because 'we owe him' is just rediculous. To me anyway it shows a clear indication that the clubs culture is not about to change dramatically in the very short term. That's a real concern.....

Its only me but when I think of captains & good respected leaders, I think of Selwood, Hodge, Hurn, Cotchin, Pendlebury, Davis & Fyfe. If you think Jones is in this category, then that's fine, but maybe I know nothing about footy.

Also the selection of the captaincy is & always has been finalised at the conclusion of preseason & I don't see any changes to that process, however, in saying that, like many I see Max as the obvious sole captain. We have far greater issues to address than who is going to be the 'face of the club over summer' & it wont make any difference to the players during that training block & I would imagine that the majority of the players regard Max as a leader anyway.

Time to get real.

 

The Adelaide review has barely commenced and Tex has rescinded the captaincy already! 

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