CHANGES: Rd 21 v Collingwood

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

20 hours ago, binman said:

Omac myths going just fine too Steve. Like the one that was swirling here after he was dropped that he would not play again for us. Or that every goal a forward kicks is as a result of an omac error (Bruce says hi).

On omac why will selection be interesting? As i have noted already if May comes in, omac comes out. Simple. 

I'm more concerned about weed than omac given we have a surfeit of defenders and bugger all forwards.

IIRC you were a big weed fan and I might be wrong but you were bullish about him becoming a gun for us. Where do you sit now with weed given his horrendous form and not holding a senior spot this year?

Oscar played again after being dropped because Steven May got injured, not on the back of form at Casey. So if it weren't for Steven May's injury, Oscar would still be in the VFL and the 'myth' would be a truth. Would it not?

I think you need to accept some truths about Oscar Binman. I understand you don't like the criticism. Maybe just say that rather than what value he offers us. 

I am a Weideman fan and of course I'm disappointed in his season. However, Oscar has never played a game or even shown patches of the same quality that Sam has on occasions. He was a top 10 pick even after missing most of his 18's year due to injury. Oscar was a speculative pick in the 50's, doesn't possess any top tier traits and has below average speed, reactions, intensity and defensive skills.

It's a silly comparison.

 

Edited August 8, 2019 by stevethemanjordan

[Lord Nev 13,511]

Lever likely to play and May a definite in according to Goody today.

Also said they're "happy with how he's (Brayshaw) tracking", which seems sugarcoated even by Goody's standards.

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

Seemed to suggest in the presser that they might go with Petty as the key forward then go smaller. Good idea if it is going to be wet and windy. The Pies certainly will be going small. 

[binman 38,165]

2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Oscar played again after being dropped because Steven May got injured, not on the back of form at Casey. So if it weren't for Steven May's injury, Oscar would still be in the VFL and the 'myth' would be a truth. Would it not?

I think you need to accept some truths about Oscar Binman. I understand you don't like the criticism. Maybe just say that rather than what value he offers us. 

I am a Weideman fan and of course I'm disappointed in his season. However, Oscar has never played a game or even shown patches of the same quality that Sam has on occasions. He was a top 10 pick even after missing most of his 18's year due to injury. Oscar was a speculative pick in the 50's, doesn't possess any top tier traits and has below average speed, reactions, intensity and defensive skills.

It's a silly comparison.

 

Several posters said Omac would not play again for us. They didn't qualify their statements with 'unless May gets injured...'. So yes a myth.

I wasn't comparing Omac and Weed. I just mentioned the two in the same post. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,213]

1 hour ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Seemed to suggest in the presser that they might go with Petty as the key forward then go smaller. Good idea if it is going to be wet and windy. The Pies certainly will be going small. 

If that's the case, unless one of our forwards makes a clear lead, can we please play Port Adelaide 'dirty ball' and keep the inside 50 entries as low as possible? If we just kick the ball in the air, the Collingwood defenders will mark everything with our small forward line.

Given the poor weather and no real back up for Grundy, surely Preuss gets dropped this week. 

In - May, Stretch

Out - Preuss, O Mac

Or they could play May up forward and keep O Mac who actually didn't disgrace himself against Tom Lynch.

I see Saturday as a big day for the club. It's the last opportunity to claim a scalp and put in a performance the supporters/members can be proud of. There is literally not one win this year that we can be genuinely proud of. All wins we've either scraped over the line, played a rubbish side or a combo of both. The Freo win was probably out best for the year considering they were flying at the time and we dominated the last qtr.

 

Edited August 8, 2019 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

9 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If that's the case, unless one of our forwards makes a clear lead, can we please play Port Adelaide 'dirty ball' and keep the inside 50 entries as low as possible? If we just kick the ball in the air, the Collingwood defenders will mark everything with our small forward line.

Given the poor weather and no real back up for Grundy, surely Preuss gets dropped this week. 

In - May, Stretch

Out - Preuss, O Mac

Or they could play May up forward and keep O Mac who actually didn't disgrace himself against Tom Lynch.

I see Saturday as a big day for the club. It's the last opportunity to claim a scalp and put in a performance the supporters/members can be proud of. There is literally not one win this year that we can be genuinely proud of. All wins we've either scraped over the line, played a rubbish side or a combo of both. The Freo win was probably out best for the year considering they were flying at the time and we dominated the last qtr.

 

I'd like them to bring in Hore, and put hunt back forward with this plan. I agree with Preuss and OMac being the omissions with Lewis being sent to Howe in a negating role. I know he can't match him in the air but if he can block his run and general intercepting marks then we can hopefully keep those 'dirty balls' in the front half. 

[Older demon 2,166]

In May, Hore and Stretch

Out Oscar, Preuss & Wagner or Dunkley

Move Salem into the centre and leave him there to develop as a mid or stick Trac in the middle and let him develop into the midfielder we hoped to get with pick 2. Hunt to a wing and JKH back to where he started as a forward pocket rover/pressure forward

Jones May Lever

Hibberd Frost Hore

Baker Salem Hunt

Trac Petty Melksham

JKH Oliver Fritta 

Gawn Brayshaw Viney

Stretch Harmes Dunkley Lewis

1 ruckman and someone else nominated to play the Grigg role as Richmond did so successfully. If not stick with Preuss and omit Dunkley.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,213]

40 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I'd like them to bring in Hore, and put hunt back forward with this plan. I agree with Preuss and OMac being the omissions with Lewis being sent to Howe in a negating role. I know he can't match him in the air but if he can block his run and general intercepting marks then we can hopefully keep those 'dirty balls' in the front half. 

Thanks, totally forgot about Hore.

With Lever, Frost and Hore in the side could May spend a bit of time up forward as an option?

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Thanks, totally forgot about Hore.

With Lever, Frost and Hore in the side could May spend a bit of time up forward as an option?

I'd still start May back, but move him forward if we get a bit of momentum. I also want to see Frost as the backup ruckman, if Petty goes in there we'll have no-one forward, plus a bit of Frost ball out of the middle could be entertaining if nothing else. 

[Demonland 65,200]

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