David King puts the Boot ? in

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

Just heard him tee off at the team and Coaches on SEN

Agreed with all of it, as did a few callers

The Podcast will be up soon no doubt

Goodwin is not safe,  nor should he be

Edited July 29, 2019 by Demonland
Added audio of King's Appearance on Whateley

[praha 11,217]

Should have started after the Adelaide loss. All pointless now. But this week's game was arguably our worst on a skills front for the season so unsurprisingly the heat has risen now. Looking forward to listening.

[DubDee 24,698]

Gee it must be hard being a footy special comments guys. a team is terrible - let me explain how terrible they are.  genius

all his predictions like Dons top 4 last year etc don't turn out but he can state the obvious

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Gee it must be hard being a footy special comments guys. a team is terrible - let me explain how terrible they are.  genius

all his predictions like Dons top 4 last year etc don't turn out but he can state the obvious

Denial will get us nowhere 

We should have learnt that by now

[DubDee 24,698]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Denial will get us nowhere 

We should have learnt that by now

I just got out of Denial, check the other thread!  ?

just saying it is obvious we are a terrible team playing terrible footy

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Why do people always attack a commentator when they point out how bad we are? MFC have been extremely lucky so far in how they've avoided their right whack from the media. Only Ox and Lyon have noticed so far, but now, finally, the focus is on us (at least a bit anyway).

Robbo has also described us as a 'basket case' in his regular post-round write up.

It's not a commentators job to find the answers, it's our coaches.

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

Yes i know.

But there were 3 Coaches jobs already ended this year. That is the only reason Goodwin has been spared so far. 

He was lucky Bolton was still hanging on when we played Carlscum, we wouldn’t beat them now. 

The Media Torch has moved. Goodwwin will get this Summer to get his shiit together. 

[Dee Watcher 71]

You can see in the Goodwin presser and the message to members he is devoid of ideas and at a loss to explain the performance as the "injuries" we are building a game style etc excuses and talking points don't wash any longer!

 

 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,393]

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes i know.

But there were 3 Coaches jobs already ended this year. That is the only reason Goodwin has been spared so far. 

He was lucky Bolton was still hanging on when we played Carlscum, we wouldn’t beat them now. 

The Media Torch has moved. Goodwwin will get this Summer to get his shiit together. 

Bolton was sacked in June, we played Carlton in July. 

Kingy was a big supporter of Melbourne last season and before the commencement of this season, it’s a shame to lose the support of an outsider. Our membership will take a huge hit next season. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

1 minute ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Bolton was sacked in June, we played Carlton in July. 

Kingy was a big supporter of Melbourne last season and before the commencement of this season, it’s a shame to lose the support of an outsider. Our membership will take a huge hit next season. 

My mistake about Bolton. Sentiment remains. 

Yep King was a huge Supporter for a long time. No more....

 

[DubDee 24,698]

13 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Why do people always attack a commentator when they point out how bad we are? MFC have been extremely lucky so far in how they've avoided their right whack from the media. Only Ox and Lyon have noticed so far, but now, finally, the focus is on us (at least a bit anyway).

Robbo has also described us as a 'basket case' in his regular post-round write up.

It's not a commentators job to find the answers, it's our coaches.

Lucky?  it would have been better to have the blowtorch back in round 5

was not attacking him, just pointing out they have a very easy/high paying job

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

Just now, DubDee said:

Lucky?  it would have been better to have the blowtorch back in round 5

was not attacking him, just pointing out they have a very easy/high paying job

Dub. There were 3 jobs on the line early in the year. They have now been sorted

Goodwin is now “on”

[Dee Watcher 71]

The players remain the same but have no confidence and the team structures haven't held up at all.

We get scored on the same way every week, 666 has been a death knell to set up, teams getting over the back, lack of pressure and so on is clearly coaching!

Skill execution is a player problem but in part come back to player development.

 

 

[Demonland 70,466]

[Lord Nev 13,512]

8 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Lucky?  it would have been better to have the blowtorch back in round 5

was not attacking him, just pointing out they have a very easy/high paying job

Don't really think it's an 'easy' job at all. Whether you agree with him or not, he's one of the best for actually doing a stack of research into his analysis. If it was a 'very easy/high paying job' wouldn't we all be raking it in with every post on Demonland?

I agree we should have had the blowtorch a long time ago, and if we weren't such an irrelevant club we might have.

[Demon3 2,541]

Goodwin is lost, Jennings is lost, the players look lost, the Leaders are not leading, the club is sick and has been all year. 

Players in the press basically admitting no one has any idea whats going wrong, Max saying they are a long way from a  basic AFL team, Lever saying they fundamentals are not there.. its just bloody embarrassing, it really is, its a total unmitigated disaster and no one can arrest it. 

[praha 11,217]

17 minutes ago, Demonland said:

First one to really put the heat on Goodwin. 

"This one sits in the coaches box."

Can't see it turning around this season. That gives Goodwin 6-8 weeks in 2020.

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

2 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

Goodwin is lost, Jennings is lost, the players look lost, the Leaders are not leading, the club is sick and has been all year. 

Players in the press basically admitting no one has any idea whats going wrong, Max saying they are a long way from a  basic AFL team, Lever saying they fundamentals are not there.. its just bloody embarrassing, it really is, its a total unmitigated disaster and no one can arrest it. 

Yep. The comments by Max tell the story

i have never heard a player talk like that

[Older demon 2,678]

Agree with everything David said. The marketing campaign starting this week with the "Big 3" may be a disaster as why would anyone come and watch us play the way we did Saturday night. 3 game membership who would bother.

I have asked the club not to send me their Monday morning email with Goodwin's message. The problem has been there all year and nothing the club has done has fixed it. This is a massive fail both at player level and coaching level.

They deserved King's boot in my opinion.

[dimmy 1,307]

It is obvious, what is wrong..   Skills and Connectivity = 13 goals scored via turnovers.

Fixable ......Yes , by getting ball out before opposition line up

When....... Soon Hopefully

Solutions : OMac to CHF Pretty to CHB, Clarrie to Outside MId:  Gus, Harmesy in MId, JV to Small Fwd

[Ethan Tremblay 30,393]

12 minutes ago, dimmy said:

It is obvious, what is wrong..   Skills and Connectivity = 13 goals scored via turnovers.

This is an outcome of something being wrong within the club. Are the players rebelling? Is the game plan overly confusing? 

Edited July 29, 2019 by Ethan Tremblay

[M_9 2,012]

2 minutes ago, dimmy said:

It is obvious, what is wrong..   Skills and Connectivity = 13 goals scored via turnovers.

Fixable ......Yes , by getting ball out before opposition line up

When....... Soon Hopefully

Solutions : OMac to CHF Pretty to CHB, Clarrie to Outside MId:  Gus, Harmesy in MId, JV to Small Fwd

During pre-match warm up?

[DubDee 24,698]

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Don't really think it's an 'easy' job at all. Whether you agree with him or not, he's one of the best for actually doing a stack of research into his analysis. If it was a 'very easy/high paying job' wouldn't we all be raking it in with every post on Demonland?

I agree we should have had the blowtorch a long time ago, and if we weren't such an irrelevant club we might have.

I agree King is one of the better ones but surely you can see he gets the job based on being a former AFL player and then just needs to comment on tactics/stats and occasionally making an outlandish comment to make headlines.  doing some research when this is your job is not much to ask. Us fans on DL obviously dont get paid even though a reckon a few of us know just as much about footy than Kingy if not more (not including myself here)

a dream job if you ask me

[deebug 1,754]

Look you can pick it apart as much as you like. Yes we have been s*@^ all season, we know, have been putting up with it, not just this year, for many years.

If this c&#(@ is there in 2020 (HELL I HOPE NOT) then we should move people on, but for now please have faith, that next year we have a full fit list of players who when they put on our jumper and run out for their first match of the season in 2020, they bleed red and blue.

The coaches need to know they are on notice, improve or don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

Del Santo just continued the Lunch chat...

He also made some good and fair points