1 minute ago, rjay said:

As a defensive forward, not a mid.

He's not proven at any senior level as a mid so shouldn't be brought into the conversation yet...

Merely talking about him as depth. Would have played more than just the 2 games if he wasn't injured IMO, but even still, breaking through for senior games in your first year qualifies you as being listed as 'depth' in my books.

21 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Sparrow debuted in his first year, then missed the second half of the year with injury.

 

He debuted due to a decent injury list, and only debuted as a very late inclusion in the side.

He can't really be considered depth at this stage, although that could change next year if he improves.

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

He debuted due to a decent injury list, and only debuted as a very late inclusion in the side.

He can't really be considered depth at this stage, although that could change next year if he improves.

Guess 'depth' is one of those words everyone has a different interpretation on. Happy to agree to disagree, seems a common thing in footy!

To me, if you've played senior games you're depth. Coming in when there's injuries is almost the definition of depth really. Can understand where you and others are coming from, it's just different to how I see it I guess.

13 hours ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

There’s more than one way to swim a lap.

Trade pick 3 to GWS for picks 12, 14 and a decent player. Along with pick 20 (likely Langdon) there’s more than enough cachet to go a long way to addressing the outside midfield problem. 

Four inside midfielders is not an excessive number. Ideally you want a balance of four inside and four outside in your rotation. 

Hi Rangey/ Matsuo,

Oliver, Brayshaw, Harmes, Viney. Swallow will get more inside game time in 2020, Jones is only of value as an insider. A leaner, fitter Trac will play in the guts too.

7 potential inside mids.

0 potential outside mids ATM, at best maybe Baker. Langdon is B grader, pick 21 indicative of this

Given Jones has just re-signed and cannot be traded, I'd say the player there of biggest trade value (apart from Oliver) is Gus or Viney. I've come around to that scenario rather than trading Trac.

Edited September 3, 20195 yr by Moonshadow

39 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

I asked for a direct quote. You quoted Tim Brown. And you’re talking about maturity. Please. 

Who is Matsuo?

Yeah, I'm gonna tap out now. Have a good one.

https://m.melbournefc.com.au/news/2019-09-03/brayshaw-a-better-player-after-2019

 

Brayshaw says he was working on becoming a more rounded player, working on team defence, etc...

This coming from (still) one of our worst two way runners at the club. 

if there was an offer of a top 10 pick for brayshaw i would take it

- pick 3 to gw$ for 13, 15, and wantaway vic mid aiden bonar
- brayshaw to caaaaaaaaarlton for pick 8, which carlton hold via adelaide
- pick 8 back to crows for laird, future second
- pick 24 to freo for langdon
- crows' future second to pear for amon

net result:
IN: laird, langdon, amon, bonar, pick 13, pick 15
OUT: brayshaw, pick 3, pick 24

1 hour ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

if there was an offer of a top 10 pick for brayshaw i would take it

- pick 3 to gw$ for 13, 15, and wantaway vic mid aiden bonar
- brayshaw to caaaaaaaaarlton for pick 8, which carlton hold via adelaide
- pick 8 back to crows for laird, future second
- pick 24 to freo for langdon
- crows' future second to pear for amon

net result:
IN: laird, langdon, amon, bonar, pick 13, pick 15
OUT: brayshaw, pick 3, pick 24

Pick 8 is too much for Laird even with the second rounder back. He’s a back flanker.

28 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Pick 8 is too much for Laird even with the second rounder back. He’s a back flanker.

possibly

i reckon it's what adelaide would expect for a dual all-australian best and fairest winner in the prime of his career

we're also getting amon out of it in this scenario

50 minutes ago, GetJonnoPatton said:

Pick 8 is too much for Laird even with the second rounder back. He’s a back flanker.

You said Petracca would get us a pick between 8-15.

You then went on to talk about how Petracca hasn't finished top 10 in the Bluey.

Now you're saying pick 8 is too expensive for a 25 year old 2 x All-Australian and reigning BnF winner.

Edited September 3, 20195 yr by Demonland

Take with a grain of salt. 

 

Given he has 2 bros and a lot of extended family there, I for one am shocked!

Edit. But i'll start the ball rolling: Gus + 21 for Cerra and Langdon.

Edited October 6, 20195 yr by Moonshadow

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Take with a grain of salt. 

 

The most disturbing part of this is that you follow Ricky Nixon on twitter.

My lefty sources tell me he was drinking an almond milk latte with Nate Fyfe before going to inspect a few potential rammed earth homes with Pav and Longmuir and Belly.

Not that I think Nixon is right but there is so much noise around Brayshaw that just seems to not stop. Would be disappointed to lose him though Pick 3 that is still young and although his putrid 2019 his absence would leave us too thin in the middle of the ground IMO. 

Unless we could really over-capitalise on the trade I'd say no deal because he's worth more to our team and list than his true worth atm I think.

 

21 minutes ago, chookrat said:

The most disturbing part of this is that you follow Ricky Nixon on twitter.

Got to follow all kinds of filth to bring you all the breaking news stories. 

Hate to lose him but if he aint happy, and he played like that this year,  lets get moving on a hard nosed deal.

Thanks, Rock Spider.

34 minutes ago, Neitz the Great said:

Not that I think Nixon is right but there is so much noise around Brayshaw that just seems to not stop. Would be disappointed to lose him though Pick 3 that is still young and although his putrid 2019 his absence would leave us too thin in the middle of the ground IMO. 

Unless we could really over-capitalise on the trade I'd say no deal because he's worth more to our team and list than his true worth atm I think.

 

Putrid 2019 where he still finished in the B&F top 10. 

14 minutes ago, Big Kev said:

Putrid 2019 where he still finished in the B&F top 10. 

Agree Big Kev, but that's just an indication where we are as a footy club.

Not surprised at all like a few others as Gus played unhappy this season & with all his family in Perth, a move there makes sense.

Good luck Gus.

 

Mahoney stated on radio on Friday that Gus isn't going anywhere. 

Mahoney put that rumour to bed a few days ago on trade radio.  I'm inclined to believe him, especially if Nixon is the one spreading the rumour.

If his old man takes up the Dockers CEO job I could see this coming to fruition one day - but not yet. 

Of all the media I’ve seen of all the Brayshaw’s, they seem like a family with really strong values and I reckon Gus will honour his current contract with us. 

Having all the kids close by is something a lot parents would love but others like the Brayshaw’s probably prefer they grow from experience of the ups and downs of life rather than the cuddles from mum and dad or his bro’s in Perf. 

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Mahoney put that rumour to bed a few days ago on trade radio.  I'm inclined to believe him, especially if Nixon is the one spreading the rumour.

Interesting. Mahoney put to bed a rumour on Firday that Brayshaw was seen in Freo on Saturday. Mmmmm

1 minute ago, Sorry kids said:

Interesting. Mahoney put to bed a rumour on Firday that Brayshaw was seen in Freo on Saturday. Mmmmm

He put to bed the rumour that Gus would be traded.  Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.