Training - Monday, 17th December, 2018

[Deemania since 56 6,206]

Preuss looks quite a bit bigger (height and body development) than May in these shots. Wonder who is tougher, with mongrel?

[Demonland 65,977]

2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Preuss looks quite a bit bigger (height and body development) than May in these shots. Wonder who is tougher, with mongrel?

Well Preuss is a ruckman so he is obviously Taller. Preuss is going to be very hard for oppositions to match up on when down forward.

Preuss is 2.06cm

May is 1.90cm

[Demonland 65,977]

[Dee Zephyr 17,846]

8 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Well Preuss is a ruckman so he is obviously Taller. Preuss is going to be very hard for oppositions to match up on when down forward.

Preuss is 2.06cm

May is 1.90cm

In the clip you posted of Sparrow the other day holding his ground in the tackling drill against Garlett and I think it was Preuss you could hear what sounded like the players/coaches were yelling out ‘Bruiser’. Do we know if Preuss is Bruiser?

Cool nickname if so.

Edited December 18, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

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14 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

As a Junior coach I always followed the AFL bred philosophy. Train like you play. In this case this would clearly be a free against Petty. Don't see the point of this other than a good philosophical exercise for Nietschke  in practicing body contact. 

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21 hours ago, Demonland said:

Thanks for the report @Satyriconhome

When I was at training a few Fridays ago I was looking for the camera on the pole. I noticed the guy behind the goals on the freeway side of the ground with the computer and the joystick but couldn't locate the camera or see a drone in the air.

Would be interesting to know how in depth they are with reviewing the training footage and whether they use it to in meetings with players to improve their craft or training standards.

When I was there last week I was standing next to someone and we identified the drone and couldn't believe how steady it was. Just didn't move. We looked again some time later and it was still rock solid in exactly the same position. I was fascinated then realised why it was so steady. It actually wasn't a drone it was a street lamp.

I'd be taking my training reports with a grain of salt if I get back there again. I now fear I might have given a training report on the Melbourne Storm by accident. 

 

[Demonland 65,977]

9 minutes ago, It's Time said:

When I was there last week I was standing next to someone and we identified the drone and couldn't believe how steady it was. Just didn't move. We looked again some time later and it was still rock solid in exactly the same position. I was fascinated then realised why it was so steady. It actually wasn't a drone it was a street lamp.

I'd be taking my training reports with a grain of salt if I get back there again. I now fear I might have given a training report on the Melbourne Storm by accident. 

 

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1 minute ago, Demonland said:

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I've got SpecSavers. I better swap. 

[Demonland 65,977]

12 minutes ago, It's Time said:

When I was there last week I was standing next to someone and we identified the drone and couldn't believe how steady it was. Just didn't move. We looked again some time later and it was still rock solid in exactly the same position. I was fascinated then realised why it was so steady. It actually wasn't a drone it was a street lamp.

I'd be taking my training reports with a grain of salt if I get back there again. I now fear I might have given a training report on the Melbourne Storm by accident.

I didn't realise that the club deployed the drone for training analysis. I thought the marketing/social media department used it for promotion/web content.

[Watson11 1,915]

37 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Judging by the number of photos posted in the last 4 weeks of Preuss versus May there is no way that Goody isn’t locked in on Preuss spending time forward as the 3rd tall.  Hopefully it works well all season.  Will be really valuable in low scoring finals.

[Demonland 65,977]

7 minutes ago, Watson11 said:

Judging by the number of photos posted in the last 4 weeks of Preuss versus May there is no way that Goody isn’t locked in on Preuss spending time forward as the 3rd tall.  Hopefully it works well all season.  Will be really valuable in low scoring finals.

I'm convinced that plan A is for him to start as a forward relieving Maxy in the ruck. Hopefully it works because it will definitely benefit both TMac and Weid's games as well as Maxys and going a long way to mitigating the loss of Jesse.

[tiers 2,783]

I like "Bruiser" as a nickname for Preuss so I will use it.

Game plans for forward lines are often based on trying to create "imbalances" between direct opponents to obtain clear positional or team advantage for one team, even if only for short periods until the opposition responds.

206 cm tall Bruiser playing on anyone is going to be an imbalance. Will he demand the attention of the biggest/strongest defender thus relieving pressure on TMac and Weid or will he be manned by the second/third defender in the hope that he does not create havoc by his size and strength?

Will he act as a decoy for TMac and Weid or will he play as a backstop in the goal square where his height and strength could be decisive in marking contests? How does the coach prevent all three contesting and spoiling each other?

Given that he would ordinarily be one of three talls all requiring attention, it would be hard for defences to multi team him, or his teammates,  in contests as used to happen to Jesse when he was one out.

And from all accounts, he is a genuine ruckman/follower who might allow Maxie the time and space to be even more influential.

Nice problem to have for us. 

[DV8 2,271]

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Well Preuss is a ruckman so he is obviously Taller. Preuss is going to be very hard for oppositions to match up on when down forward.

Preuss is 2.06cm

May is 1.90cm

Here is a Footywire page relevant to Weight of players...  showing both our rucks at the top.

Followed by some Macks and May's... and other surprises  as well.

looksee

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-melbourne-demons?year=2019&sby=8

Edited December 18, 2018 by DV8

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, It's Time said:

When I was there last week I was standing next to someone and we identified the drone and couldn't believe how steady it was. Just didn't move. We looked again some time later and it was still rock solid in exactly the same position. I was fascinated then realised why it was so steady. It actually wasn't a drone it was a street lamp.

I'd be taking my training reports with a grain of salt if I get back there again. I now fear I might have given a training report on the Melbourne Storm by accident. 

 

Hah,   'the Old camera in the streetlamp trick'... hey 'IT'... 

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Watson11 said:

Judging by the number of photos posted in the last 4 weeks of Preuss versus May there is no way that Goody isn’t locked in on Preuss spending time forward as the 3rd tall.  Hopefully it works well all season.  Will be really valuable in low scoring finals.

Well Hogan wasn't any good when locked in under the long bomb...  Jesse needed to roam in space.

 

Preuss will be very good for,  'deeFlea' department.

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[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

I'm convinced that plan A is for him to start as a forward relieving Maxy in the ruck. Hopefully it works because it will definitely benefit both TMac and Weid's games as well as Maxys and going a long way to mitigating the loss of Jesse.

Also, I think If/When at Casey, he will rotate spots with Austin.

[Demonland 65,977]

20 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Also, I think If/When at Casey, he will rotate spots with Austin.

If the Preuss experiment works Austin will have his work cut out for him.

[DV8 2,271]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If the Preuss experiment works Austin will have his work cut out for him.

My comment is about looking to the future development of Austin.

I don't think we will play the 2 senior rucks in every AFL match. 

Austin, I think, will be a 3 Year at least, development.  I see him sharing duties in some VFL games with Preussy.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,503]

1 hour ago, tiers said:

I like "Bruiser" as a nickname for Preuss so I will use it.

Game plans for forward lines are often based on trying to create "imbalances" between direct opponents to obtain clear positional or team advantage for one team, even if only for short periods until the opposition responds.

206 cm tall Bruiser playing on anyone is going to be an imbalance. Will he demand the attention of the biggest/strongest defender thus relieving pressure on TMac and Weid or will he be manned by the second/third defender in the hope that he does not create havoc by his size and strength?

Will he act as a decoy for TMac and Weid or will he play as a backstop in the goal square where his height and strength could be decisive in marking contests? How does the coach prevent all three contesting and spoiling each other?

Given that he would ordinarily be one of three talls all requiring attention, it would be hard for defences to multi team him, or his teammates,  in contests as used to happen to Jesse when he was one out.

And from all accounts, he is a genuine ruckman/follower who might allow Maxie the time and space to be even more influential.

Nice problem to have for us. 

The converse, of course, is that opposition defences may be able to clear the ball more quickly because what they might lack in height they may make up for in speed and ground-ball play. That's not to criticise the strategy of playing three talls. It just reminds us what we'll be up against.

[Watson11 1,915]

2 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The converse, of course, is that opposition defences may be able to clear the ball more quickly because what they might lack in height they may make up for in speed and ground-ball play. That's not to criticise the strategy of playing three talls. It just reminds us what we'll be up against.

Maybe but I’ll back Max and Preuss to lay more forward 50 tackles than Hogan did last year.

[Redleg 37,909]

6 hours ago, Demonland said:

Well Preuss is a ruckman so he is obviously Taller. Preuss is going to be very hard for oppositions to match up on when down forward.

Preuss is 2.06cm

May is 1.90cm

Steven May
#1   Melbourne Demons
Age: 26yr 11mth    Games: 123     Born: January 10, 1992
Height: 193cm     Weight: 102kg     Position: Defender

May is listed at 193 cms in most articles. 

Edited December 18, 2018 by Redleg

[Demonland 65,977]

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Steven May
#1   Melbourne Demons
Age: 26yr 11mth    Games: 123     Born: January 10, 1992
Height: 193cm     Weight: 102kg     Position: Defender

May is listed at 193 cms in most articles. 

Demons website has him at 193cm.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/player-profile/steven-may

Google search of Steven May height had him at 190cm.

Perhaps taken from the Gold Coast website which no longer has him on the Players list.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 3,937]

May is an angry [censored], you can just see it he wants to smash someone. Pruess is more laid back but could end someone with ease

[Whispering_Jack 28,025]

There’s nothing that I could find on the club’s site to suggest that there is a training session on today but that doesn’t mean much given that I thought they had shut up shop with last Friday’s training session.

The site does say that there’s training on a Gosch’s Paddock on Friday at 9.30am.

[Demonland 65,977]

17 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

There’s nothing that I could find on the club’s site to suggest that there is a training session on today but that doesn’t mean much given that I thought they had shut up shop with last Friday’s training session.

The site does say that there’s training on a Gosch’s Paddock on Friday at 9.30am.

None of the preseason Wednesday sessions have been listed on the site this year as they are classified as Closed Sessions. 

That hasn't stopped some sneaky posters finding away to report on them. 

I'll start a thread later and hopefully one of our intrepid spies manages to gain access.