Our Tall Forwards

[hemingway 7,615]

29 minutes ago, Smokey said:

This comparison seems dubious at best 

Lockett vs Curnow 
Games played - 281 vs 47
Total scoring shots - 1950 vs 93

The disparity in sample data is too big for this comparison. A better way to look at it is Pluggers stats after his first 3 seasons (175 goals @ 68% accuracy). Either way you look at it, you've basically just proven that the two players cannot be compared. 

Pretty interesting that you are prepared to speak on behalf of every football department in the league and state that his accuracy has never been discussed. 

All in all - thanks for the fake news 

Anyone know Peter Hudson’s conversion rate. 

[Deemania since 56 6,561]

17 hours ago, Drunkn167 said:

One of his best games this season was against Port Melbourne when they threw him forward in the last quarter. 

I still maintain Dec almost singlehandley won Casey that game. No one was hanging on to marks forward of centre but he was able to bring down 4 or 5 big grabs, set up a couple of goals and kicked one himself. 

Got BOG that game too.

The performance must be remembered ... it was more than just a purple patch.

[Deemania since 56 6,561]

18 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Good Lord.

Most of the best goal-kickers in history float between 65-70%.  I could have named another 12 quality key forwards that fell within that range.  Then you would have (needlessly) scrambled away dissecting another player's accuracy.

The point was that Curnow's goal-kicking accuracy at 63% is a non-issue and that it wouldn't deter any club in the competition for craving a player of his quality.

Is it summer already? There seems to be a considerable amount of hot air blowing to interrupt reading time.

[Gator 17,260]

22 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Anyone know Peter Hudson’s conversion rate. 

68.8%

[Smokey 4,348]

5 hours ago, ProDee said:

Good Lord.

Most of the best goal-kickers in history float between 65-70%.  I could have named another 12 quality key forwards that fell within that range.  Then you would have (needlessly) scrambled away dissecting another player's accuracy.

The point was that Curnow's goal-kicking accuracy at 63% is a non-issue and that it wouldn't deter any club in the competition for craving a player of his quality.

Right. So instead of just saying that last sentence, you compared curnows average to pluggers average without drawing a comparison between the two and then spoke on behalf of 18 football departments with authority.

 

Good lord indeed. 

[Gator 17,260]

26 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Right. So instead of just saying that last sentence, you compared curnows average to pluggers average without drawing a comparison between the two and then spoke on behalf of 18 football departments with authority.

 

Good lord indeed. 

You really are disingenuous.

I ALREADY had made that point with the poster in question, which you would have read.

Edited November 27, 2018 by ProDee

[hemingway 7,615]

41 minutes ago, ProDee said:

You really are disingenuous.

I ALREADY had made that point with the poster in question, which you would have read.

Keep it going boys, love the debate with all its feigned outrage. 

[Gator 17,260]

5 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Keep it going boys, love the debate with all its feigned outrage. 

Bye

[hemingway 7,615]

1 minute ago, ProDee said:

Bye

Bye you precious thing.

[D4Life 2,405]

If Riewoldt & Lynch both go down, Richmond have? 

If Cox and ???? Go down Collingwood have???

if Darling & Kennedy go down Eagles have ????

Big KPF are hard to find and very few come up to speed within a few years of being drafted. Hogan was one of the few.

Demons have TMac and Weideman on the way. If either go down the Demons may look to Preuss to do a Cox like role, or turn to TSmith, Keilty, Petty or even OMac.

Not many if any teams have a good 3rd big key forward!

[John Demonic 5,523]

2 hours ago, D4Life said:

If Cox and ???? Go down Collingwood have???

De Goey mate! Collingwood adding Beams in middle and having JDG up forward permanently will be a formidable opponent. Pretty pumped for QB Retribution just thinking about it.

Edited November 27, 2018 by John Demonic

[D4Life 2,405]

37 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

De Goey mate! Collingwood adding Beams in middle and having JDG up forward permanently will be a formidable opponent. Pretty pumped for QB Retribution just thinking about it.

De Goey played on flank but even if he plays full forward. If he and Cox go down, who is their third tall?

Who is Swans, second tall forward, if Buddy goes down what happens.

My point still stands not many teams have two key tall forwards, let alone three.

Cats - Hawkins then who?

Hawks - Roughead nearly finished, Gunston almost half forward.

GWS - Cameron & Patton

[Yokozuna 1,004]

Sorry if any of this has been posted in this discussion, but I am being lazy (and probably sensible) and not reading all the previous posts.

I dont post often but think i am pretty accurate with my intel, and i have been told that Keilty will be playing forward this year.

Secondly, they were keen to rookie mclean, as they had thought about doing the previous season, but in the rookie draft, they thought that chandler was a better option, as they rated him highly. (i did question why he wasnt selected the day before if they rated him so highly!! didnt get much of an answer!) The same with last year, they had planned on drafting mclean, but petty was still available and that rated him higher.

[Gator 17,260]

1 hour ago, D4Life said:

De Goey played on flank but even if he plays full forward. If he and Cox go down, who is their third tall?

I agree with the sentiments of your post and have stated the same, however, de Goey and Stephenson at times both played out of the goal square as pseudo full-forwards.

I think some people are surprised that de Goey is 191cm.

Edited November 27, 2018 by ProDee

[Lucifers Hero 38,985]

34 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

Sorry if any of this has been posted in this discussion, but I am being lazy (and probably sensible) and not reading all the previous posts.

I dont post often but think i am pretty accurate with my intel, and i have been told that Keilty will be playing forward this year.

Secondly, they were keen to rookie mclean, as they had thought about doing the previous season, but in the rookie draft, they thought that chandler was a better option, as they rated him highly. (i did question why he wasnt selected the day before if they rated him so highly!! didnt get much of an answer!) The same with last year, they had planned on drafting mclean, but petty was still available and that rated him higher.

Under the pss rules Mclean is effectively a Free Agent so we can rookie him up until March 2019.  Or line him up as pss rookie for the 2018/2019 sign up.  (We don't have a rookie spot right now but a current rookie could be promoted to the seniors list where we do have a spot). 

Can't help but think the last seniors spot has been left vacant for a reason, yet to unfold.

It seems that Keilty will be give first shot at the role and good on him.  He has worked hard and could easily see him being promoted to the seniors at some stage.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[binman 41,966]

Our tall forward situation is fine.

Maxy will push forward more often next year and with trac, hannan and Melky we have a number of good mid sized marking options.

Even with preuss the ruck position worries me much, much more. But just as you cant carry 'spare' gun forwards on a list you cant take list spots for a rockman likely to spend rhe whole year in the maggos.

I'm not sure where I stand on the idea of a mid season draft but being able to bring in say a rockman I'd needed has some logic given the list restrictions.

[ManDee 7,124]

9 minutes ago, binman said:

Our tall forward situation is fine.

Maxy will push forward more often next year and with trac, hannan and Melky we have a number of good mid sized marking options.

Even with preuss the ruck position worries me much, much more. But just as you cant carry 'spare' gun forwards on a list you cant take list spots for a rockman likely to spend rhe whole year in the maggos.

I'm not sure where I stand on the idea of a mid season draft but being able to bring in say a rockman I'd needed has some logic given the list restrictions.

Ozzie Osbourne or Frank Zappa?

[spirit of norm smith 15,237]

31 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Under the pss rules Mclean is effectively a Free Agent so we can rookie him up until March 2019.  Or line him up as pss rookie for the 2018/2019 sign up.  (We don't have a rookie spot right now but a current rookie could be promoted to the seniors list where we do have a spot). 

Can't help but think the last seniors spot has been left vacant for a reason, yet to unfold.

It seems that Keilty will be give first shot at the role and good on him.  He has worked hard and could easily see him being promoted to the seniors at some stage.

Yes I thought there was still a spot. Rookie goes to main list such as Keilty and then a rookie is added. I still think McLean or young Riley Bowman would be handy additions for the future.  

[Smokey 4,348]

13 hours ago, ProDee said:

You really are disingenuous.

I ALREADY had made that point with the poster in question, which you would have read.

Gee whiz you sure do get defensive easily. The irony here is I recall you referring to be people as snowflakes before. Your first response to my reply was to tell me I am cognitively impaired as to not have a grasp of your brilliant references. Might be time to start being more aware of how condescending you are. 

Anyways, listing the statistics of two players and then claiming you aren't comparing the two is idiotic, I'll leave it at that.