21 hours ago, Dr.D said:

is he fast? no

is he a good kick? no

does he apply defensive pressure? no

is he a good mark? he's ok but wrestles too much.

i would be all up for trading him.

for those that say he is a good field kick are deluded. his ball drop is hard to watch.

Only one  person is deluded on here. 

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Go to your account (top right three horizontal bars) then ignored users, then type in "sir why you little", and select "yes".

? ?

Found it!!!!

watch pedo's pass to him in the last, leading to the speccie on his head. If you think Hogan is the problem, you're wrong. 

1 hour ago, MSFebey said:

Isn't that Petracca that is left handed? Even bounces the ball left handed. Not sure about Hogan though.

I can confirm Hoges is left handed. I asked him as he continually shot left handed at one of the MFC holiday programs at MSAC where he and Trac were shooting hoops. Both would not be out of place on a basketball court.

1 minute ago, Older demon said:

I can confirm Hoges is left handed. I asked him as he continually shot left handed at one of the MFC holiday programs at MSAC where he and Trac were shooting hoops. Both would not be out of place on a basketball court.

Thanks mate, good to know 

Just interviewed on Talking Footy. Very nervous, not a great speaker. Was asked about staying long term at the Dees. Gave the well rehearsed, straight bat response. 

He's Gawn!

Also said his injury only happened against the swans and was just a niggle. Also on On The Couch, they showed footage of Jesses poor positioning and leading patterns, just goes to show it isn’t just the midfields fault, he’s not positioning himself anywhere near where he should be. Jonathon Brown called him out and said he was part of the blame.

Edited August 13, 20186 yr by MSFebey

5 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Also said his injury only happened against the swans and was just a niggle. Also I’m On The Couch, they showed footage of Jesses poor positioning and leading patterns, just goes to show it isn’t just the midfields fault, he’s not positioning himself anywhere near where he should be. Jonathon Brown called him out and said he was part of the blame.

He has kicked 42 of his goals this year against the bottom 10 sides? Barely averaging a goal a game against the top sides.

1 minute ago, Bonkers said:

He has kicked 42 of his goals this year against the bottom 10 sides? Barely averaging a goal a game against the top sides.

Correct, I posted the stats this morning. Flat tracker

Would love Jonathan Brown to do some coaching with him in the off season. 

4 hours ago, praha said:

watch pedo's pass to him in the last, leading to the speccie on his head. If you think Hogan is the problem, you're wrong. 

Well Jonathon Brown showed that footage amongst several others on On The Couch as another example of Jesse Hogan being terribly out of position. 

7 minutes ago, goodwindees said:

Well Jonathon Brown showed that footage amongst several others on On The Couch as another example of Jesse Hogan being terribly out of position. 

Dockers would give us 1st rounder 2018, 2  nd rounder 2019 and a player. Worth a look

8 hours ago, Dirts said:

Dockers would give us 1st rounder 2018, 2  nd rounder 2019 and a player. Worth a look

Depending on the player yes please 

These last two rounds Hogan has to stand up and be counted, right now he's the epitome of a Melbourne player. A rock star vs lower teams, goes to water against the good teams.

18 hours ago, red&blue1982 said:

How do you listen to a post? Hehe.

He holds the ball in a way to suit his left boot, kind of; but his run up, as silly as it looks, is for his right boot. 

... his current method does not work closer to goal.

18 hours ago, MSFebey said:

Why does everyone pick on @DV8, he's just having his say, take it or leave it lol

Its because I challenge the status quo...  and because of this;  I think outside the status-quo box,,,  so then I have different thoughts/ideas, to those conservatives caught up within that box.    'They', just do more of the same,,, each time.  coming up with the same results time after time_]

 

I challenge them _  from the words of the song to the mental theme of the club and supporters.    from the culture,,,  to the vibe/noise in the stands on game-day.

 

I am getting results...  back at the expense of my own well-being.

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14 hours ago, MSFebey said:

Correct, I posted the stats this morning. Flat tracker

No, msf, its confidence related...  but the problem remains... our midfield needs better mids, who use the ball smarter.

We still have to somehow,,, get those players onto our list.   it's imperative we do, because we are crucifying our tall forwards, and the smalls as well to a lesser extent.

 

Hogan is out of position for his skills.

1 minute ago, DV8 said:

No, msf, its confidence related...  but the problem remains... our midfield needs better mids, who use the ball smarter.

We still have to somehow,,, get those players onto our list.   it's imperative we do, because we are crucifying our tall forwards, and the smalls as well to a lesser extent.

 

Hogan is out of position for his skills.

Did you watch On The Couch last night and Jonathon Brown?

12 hours ago, Dirts said:

Dockers would give us 1st rounder 2018, 2  nd rounder 2019 and a player. Worth a look

yes it is Drts.

We have too many of the same types, in relation to our needs;  as forwards and as mids.

10 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Did you watch On The Couch last night and Jonathon Brown?

No MSF, I don't watch fox.

But my point is nothing to do with Hogan's ability.   We have too many players for his position, compared to elite mids we don't have.

He is not suited close to goal, with the way we bring the ball in.

 

Weideman is better with the high ball than Jesse. 

Jesse would be better playing Petracca's role, than playing deep.  half-foward/mid.

 

The whole gist of my points are to trade, to get elite mids into the club.  We have to give something, to get something.

Hogan will be a star somewhere.

 

No point having star forwards, if they can't get the ball in the first place.  This is our dilemma.

1 minute ago, DV8 said:

No MSF, I don't watch fox.

But my point is nothing to do with Hogan's ability.   We have too many players for his position, compared to elite mids we don't have.

He is not suited close to goal, with the way we bring the ball in.

 

Weideman is better with the high ball than Jesse. 

Jesse would be better playing Petracca's role, than playing deep.  half-foward/mid.

 

The whole gist of my points are to trade, to get elite mids into the club.  We have to give something, to get something.

Hogan will be a star somewhere.

 

No point having star forwards, if they can't get the ball in the first place.  This is our dilemma.

Well sounds like he may be out for the year now so I don't know what to think

2 minutes ago, DV8 said:

No MSF, I don't watch fox.

But my point is nothing to do with Hogan's ability.   We have too many players for his position, compared to elite mids we don't have.

He is not suited close to goal, with the way we bring the ball in.

 

Weideman is better with the high ball than Jesse. 

Jesse would be better playing Petracca's role, than playing deep.  half-foward/mid.

 

The whole gist of my points are to trade, to get elite mids into the club.  We have to give something, to get something.

Hogan will be a star somewhere.

 

No point having star forwards, if they can't get the ball in the first place.  This is our dilemma.

How do we have too many players for his position though? We have Weed who isn't up to it yet, Smith who is a bit parter and Pedo who is 32 next year. Don't see too many others fighting for his position long term? 

2 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Well sounds like he may be out for the year now so I don't know what to think

whats happened, I have see any news yet.

3 minutes ago, DV8 said:

whats happened, I have see any news yet.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-08-14/hogan-to-miss-rest-of-the-season

losing hogan is no loss. probably play with real spirit now without having the staging sook inside 50m