Would we take $cully back?

[Dee Dubya 220]

2 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

GWS must have royally messed up his ankle surgery for him to go at that price (either that or Hawks think his ankle is stuffed regardless and are hoping for a miracle).

Good riddance.

Geelong Advertiser wrote this morning that his ankle injury was severe and comparable to injuries sustained in motorcycle accidents. I think GWS staff will still be in the pub tonight celebrating ridding themselves of a liability.

[dees189227 11,172]

So does his dad still work there at the giants? 

[Watson11 1,963]

How does the RFA work?  Couldn't Scully and GWS agree to tear up his contract so he can go as an RFA anywhere, and GWS get probably a high first round pick in the draft.  Maybe GWS wanted to do that....

[Nasher 33,187]

2 hours ago, Demons12 said:

Still can’t get past him telling a dying Jim Stynes his staying a Dee..When he had no intention of staying.. Tells you what sought of bloke he is..

I’d say it tells you he was a 19 year old kid in an impossible position.

[My name is legion 158]

3 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I’d say it tells you he was a 19 year old kid in an impossible position.

Or a greedy see you next Tuesday.

[Nasher 33,187]

4 minutes ago, My name is legion said:

Or a greedy see you next Tuesday.

You’d have turned down the $1m/annum, I suppose.

[Jaded No More 59,541]

Da [censored]? 

How do Hawthorn continue to rob other clubs like this? I’m just shocked. 

I think he’s a shitty snake who can’t kick, but a future 4th rounder?! No words. 

[Delusional demon 82 1,197]

Dodgy ankle or not .... make no mistake this is steal, it’s almost criminal that whorethorn are able to squeeze trades like this through , their supporters are now laughing and giving each other high fives, only huge upside for them  

we flushed the wees and poos a month ago , and just like any bad turd they bob up again , they just won’t go away with their ability to trade in mature players 

.... and meanwhile we’re likely to get bent over yet again on the hogan and may trades just because of the May compensation pick that would kick in next year (no way is he a top 10 pick) , plus GC know we are filling a need in our defence and we’re dealing with A grade [censored] at freo , 

If we get May and KK effectively in return for hogan it’s a big gamble , and the downside will be that clubs still know we’re prepared to do what ever it takes and pay up to get our target players what ever the cost , rightly or wrongly we show our hand far too easily , sometimes I wish we could play a bit more dirty at the trade table 

[My name is legion 158]

No we won’t take $cully back.

Whorethorn will regret taking on a money-grubbing cripple with a [censored] ankle.

We will pick up some gems and knock the (werribee) brown and yellow-backed scum out again!

Edited October 16, 2018 by My name is legion

[Nasher 33,187]

Outcome based trades.

GWS outcome: salary cap dump. 

Hawthorn outcome: ??

This seems like an enormous risk for the Hawks to take. Their salary cap must already be tight without taking on one of the biggest contracts in the AFL. The risk of Scully not being the same after this injury seems material and compounds the issue. All this for a player who is very good but not great. 

[beelzebub 22,573]

Hawks gunna do their doh on this one. Such a pity

Giants having a laugh surely.

[old55 21,777]

11 hours ago, DubDee said:

This deal makes a mockery of the whole trade system. Should be worth a first rounder. Has an ankle injury but he’ll be fine in 5 months. 

Why the [censored] would gws not ask for more? And don’t say salary cap as they are holding firm on Shiel. 

[censored] joke

 Well GWS probably got the essential salary cap relief they need with the Scully trade which does enable them to stand firm on the Shiel trade where they stand to gain a lot more.

[old55 21,777]

8 hours ago, Watson11 said:

How does the RFA work?  Couldn't Scully and GWS agree to tear up his contract so he can go as an RFA anywhere, and GWS get probably a high first round pick in the draft.  Maybe GWS wanted to do that....

Scully has a big 4 year contract that GWS have to honour or they have to trade him somewhere that will give him a suitably competitive contract.  There is no incentive for him to tear up that contract, it's his parachute.

[old55 21,777]

6 hours ago, Nasher said:

Outcome based trades.

GWS outcome: salary cap dump. 

Hawthorn outcome: ??

This seems like an enormous risk for the Hawks to take. Their salary cap must already be tight without taking on one of the biggest contracts in the AFL. The risk of Scully not being the same after this injury seems material and compounds the issue. All this for a player who is very good but not great. 

Hawthorn have to take these kind of risks though.  They got a very good buy with Mitchell, but paid a lot for O'Meara and now probably believe they are in the zone again.  Scully on the cheap trade-wise because they are throwing all their chips and Burton at Wingard.  That one is more risky although Wingard is younger than I thought.  If it comes off with these 4 they've got a lot of years together.  The alternative was to bottom out and go to the draft but they chose a different path last year and need to follow it through - their results this year will have encouraged them.

I hope it turns to custard.

Edited October 16, 2018 by Fifty-5

[beelzebub 22,573]

3 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Hawthorn have to take these kind of risks though.  They got a very good buy with Mitchell, but paid a lot for O'Meara and now probably believe they are in the zone again.  Scully on the cheap trade-wise because they are throwing all their chips and Burton at Wingard.  That one is more risky although Wingard is younger than I thought.  If it comes off with these 4 they've got a lot of years together.  The alternative was to bottom out and go to the draft but they chose a different path last year and need to follow it through - their results this year will have encouraged them.

I hope it turns to custard.

think his ankle already has

[JTR 2,683]

So is it true that if $cullys injury is so bad that he never plays again, his entire salary goes outside of the Hawks cap?

If so, you cant get much more of a free hit than that!

 

Edited October 16, 2018 by JTR

[Diamond_Jim 12,065]

52 minutes ago, JTR said:

So is it true that if $cullys injury is so bad that he never plays again, his entire salary goes outside of the Hawks cap?

If so, you cant get much more of a free hit than that!

 

there is a formula .

When the AFL accepts that the player has a career ending injury (not just getting old) the club can pay a lump sum to settle the remaining contract obligation.

The lump sum receives favourable treatment for salary cap purposes.

(Not sure of the precise details).

[Diamond_Jim 12,065]

PS: Apparently the twist is that if he never plays for the Hawks then nothing goes into the salary cap

Fascinating

[Lucifers Hero 37,438]

Clearly Brad Green is still smarting from HWSNBN's defection:

 

 

[What 18,810]

At his third club already.   Why not go for 4, you journeyman hack.

[dees189227 11,172]

So when we play hawthorn we can move on and not boo him. Let the few GWS fans boo him. Im still surprised he wanted back in the city of melbourne. As I have said before I thought he enjoyed the fishbowl life in sydney. 

It was weird to see him in a hawks jumper. But we all know Clarko is a genius and somehow he will make this work. 

But gee I cannot believe all hawthorn paid for him was a 4th round pick. 

Edited October 18, 2018 by dees189227