Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 It's no secret that tagging Lachie Whitfield is a great way to quell the giants, he's an elite runner and ball user of the half-back line. I think Neal-Bullen is the perfect forward to run around with Whitfield and prevent his damaging rebound 50's. Nibbla is our best runner, and may relish a defined role in the team after having a poor game against the eagles. If Nibbla can stop Whitfield and hit the scoreboard we will go along way to beating the giants. Thoughts? 2 1 Quote
DemonLad5 1,642 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 I think Nibbler is the guy for the job Harmes to Kelly if he plays (which I think he will) 1 Quote
Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) Agreed. Kelly very devastating when at his best, and Harmes has well and truly earn't that responsibility. I'm not sure how good Nibbla would be as a regular defensive forward, just because he is slight of frame and his contested ball ability isn't amazing. But Whitfield is as skinny as Jeff Garlett so nibbla should have no problem matching him for strength. It will be interesting if either Goody holds back on some tactical moves, so we have some surprises up our sleeves if we play them in the finals. Edited August 21, 2018 by Lord Neville X Flash Quote
Cards13 9,117 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Was on a footy show last night, Swans cut Whitfields run/space off at the back of the contest and they struggled to get the ball away quickly. Quote
Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 Interesting. So they did they sit someone on him, or was it a team defence? Quote
DubDee 26,674 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Offer him a 5 year deal on saturday. it will throw him off his game and he might accept after we smash them! 1 1 Quote
Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 Haha now that you mention it, he would fit in perfectly at the Dees. We need one more elite ball user to compliment salem of the half backline IMO. I would prefer Whitfield to Gaff, as he is still so young. 1 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Melksham is a good match up because he’d beat Whitfield in the air. Very smart about when to run forward and will kick a bag if Whitfield doesn’t show him respect 2 Quote
Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Patches O’houlihan said: Melksham is a good match up because he’d beat Whitfield in the air. Very smart about when to run forward and will kick a bag if Whitfield doesn’t show him respect IMHO we don't want melksham worrying about tagging someone. He is a key goalkicker and creator for us, and when we have the ball GWS won't put whitfield on melk. ANB is a better option because he is an elite runner and a pressure forward, but he is not a key cog in our forward line. 1 Quote
nosoupforme 3,085 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Who tags Oliver? Who minds Brayshaw ? Who shuts Salem 's run from half back? Who stands on Melky? And our big bodied players? AND ON AND ON. Let them stew on it. We have Gawn and they will have to put someone on their shoulders to match him. 5 Quote
Adzman 2,154 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 If you want the job done well, send Harmes to him. Harmes is our best run with player right now. Quote
Dee Zephyr 19,311 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Adzman said: If you want the job done well, send Harmes to him. Harmes is our best run with player right now. Could well be the case that Harmes goes to him, Harmes might go to Ward also. The few GWS games I’ve watched Ward has been their best midfielder. 1 Quote
Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 Harmes could definetely do the job, but he has been shutting down the best midfielders in the comp. Putting harmes on a skinny half-back flanker is a waste when our forward pocket could potentially do the role. I think harmes gets Kelly. Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said: It's no secret that tagging Lachie Whitfield is a great way to quell the giants, he's an elite runner and ball user of the half-back line. I think Neal-Bullen is the perfect forward to run around with Whitfield and prevent his damaging rebound 50's. Nibbla is our best runner, and may relish a defined role in the team after having a poor game against the eagles. If Nibbla can stop Whitfield and hit the scoreboard we will go along way to beating the giants. Thoughts? I like the idea. He can definitely go with him and would help to add another string to his bow. Need to tend to Whitfield for sure he's been a game changer. Quote
Philthy 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Harmes to Kelly, Nibbler to Cokefield Doesn't really matter, Gawn will absolutely deestroy them! Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,717 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 I don't think it is about tagging Whitfield but keeping him in honest and accountable for his forward - Melksham to him for mine. 1 Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Lord Neville X Flash said: IMHO we don't want melksham worrying about tagging someone. He is a key goalkicker and creator for us, and when we have the ball GWS won't put whitfield on melk. ANB is a better option because he is an elite runner and a pressure forward, but he is not a key cog in our forward line. Melky went with McGovern on the weekend, until they shifted him forward. He demands an opponent as well, they can't let him run lose anywhere as he's too dangerous either delivering inside 50 or getting the goals himself, so playing Melk on him effectively means Whitfield is forced to man up on him, rather than have ANB do a hard tag. I can't see Whitfield being comfortable when Melk drops back to full forward as he does. 2 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,678 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said: I don't think it is about tagging Whitfield but keeping him in honest and accountable for his forward - Melksham to him for mine. Melksham has done that job for us before and seems suited to doing it particularly against taller opponents. I just worry he's too important to our attacking play to send to a defensive role on a running flanker. He's strangely effective as a tagging half forward given he's really a lazy chaser in general. ANB and Spargo are the incumbent defensive running forward flankers and they did a reasonable job on McVeigh and Lloyd against the Swans. Neither are in great form with the ball though. Will JKH replace one of them? Will Bugg be called in to do a specific job? 1 Quote
DeeSpencer 26,678 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Red and Blue realist said: Melky went with McGovern on the weekend, until they shifted him forward. He demands an opponent as well, they can't let him run lose anywhere as he's too dangerous either delivering inside 50 or getting the goals himself, so playing Melk on him effectively means Whitfield is forced to man up on him, rather than have ANB do a hard tag. I can't see Whitfield being comfortable when Melk drops back to full forward as he does. We'd need the players up the ground to use the ball very effectively to engineer that match up though. Otherwise as soon as Melksham heads deep the Giants will swap the match up. Quote
Red and Blue realist 2,063 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said: We'd need the players up the ground to use the ball very effectively to engineer that match up though. Otherwise as soon as Melksham heads deep the Giants will swap the match up. We could then likewise move ANB onto him, but there would be a potential uncomfortable period for them where Melk is either by himself or he's double teamed and we've got someone else free. We've still got to have a good team defense to allow any match up, but I think we could be the ones to dictate this rather than be defensive from the start. Quote
Lord Neville X Flash 284 Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said: Melky went with McGovern on the weekend, until they shifted him forward. He demands an opponent as well, they can't let him run lose anywhere as he's too dangerous either delivering inside 50 or getting the goals himself, so playing Melk on him effectively means Whitfield is forced to man up on him, rather than have ANB do a hard tag. I can't see Whitfield being comfortable when Melk drops back to full forward as he does. Mcgovern plays deep defensive role, which suits melksham. Whitfield positions himself out the back of stoppages, we want melksham near the goals. Just because we put melksham on whitfeild dosen't mean another gws defender won't pick melksham up when we have the ball. Quote
martin 727 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Harmes goes to Kelly. Bugg in to go to Whitfield. Spargo out. Quote
Chook 15,069 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 5 hours ago, nosoupforme said: Who tags Oliver? Who minds Brayshaw ? Who shuts Salem 's run from half back? Who stands on Melky? And our big bodied players? AND ON AND ON. Let them stew on it. We have Gawn and they will have to put someone on their shoulders to match him. Lobb is no hack. He's just about the 3rd best ruck in the comp this year. 1 Quote
nosoupforme 3,085 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Chook said: Lobb is no hack. He's just about the 3rd best ruck in the comp this year. Yes Lobb, he can play but even though Gawn was a touch down dew to a corky on his calf recently, the game against the Eagles was almost back to AA status. Gawn is on top of his game and at his best he is a match winner and vital to us winning. Lobb will have his hands full. Who would you back? Gawn hands down. Quote
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