ROUND 19 - Non MFC games

[Sir Why You Little 36,977]

32 minutes ago, loges said:

Actually only copped about 2 days rain in 2 weeks, been quite windy though, enjoy your holiday and at least a few more Demon wins.

Cheers mate. I am eating loads of good food and enjoying a whiskey ? whenever i feel like it!

will be back for the GW$ game

[Lucifers Hero 39,597]

23 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Everytime I look at the ladder it is an amazing logjam from 3 to 11.

So many permutations are possible.

Anyone done the analysis on intra 3-11 games (8 point games) .. we have 3 of them.

Collingwood have two.

DJ, have a look at this thread for the 8 point games.

 

[Mt. Dee-Maaan 605]

18 hours ago, MSFebey said:

I said a couple of weeks a fanatical bulldogs mate of mine reckons they’re tanking for the no.4 draft pick. Certainly looks that way! However they have had a few crucial injuries since the Cats game also

we need a headshake emoji.. NO WAY this is happening. 

[DubDee 25,667]

How many weeks did Zak Jones get? Suspensions came out but haven’t seen his name yet 

[Lucifers Hero 39,597]

4 minutes ago, DubDee said:

How many weeks did Zak Jones get? Suspensions came out but haven’t seen his name yet 

Jones gets two weeks so out for game vs us.

May gets one game so also out for game vs us.

Maybe lady luck is changing our way!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-30/star-blue-suns-cocaptain-hit-with-bans

And Cheney gets a week for striking Fritsch off the ball!

Edited July 30, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[DubDee 25,667]

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Jones gets two weeks so out for game vs us.

May gets one game so also out for game vs us.

Maybe lady luck is changing out way!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-30/star-blue-suns-cocaptain-hit-with-bans

Sweet! Thanks for that

swans deperately need fit quick players so Jones out hurts

[Redleg 40,836]

11 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

And Cheney gets a week for striking Fritsch off the ball!

Did Frits get a free?

Edited July 30, 2018 by Redleg

[Lucifers Hero 39,597]

5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Did Frits get a free?

I don't recall seeing the incident. 

The incident hasn't been mentioned in the Post Game thread and wonder if the camera crew chose not to show it! 

So perhaps he didn't get a free, which would be typical of our luck with umpires!

Edited July 30, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[sue 9,096]

10 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I don't recall seeing the incident. 

The incident hasn't been mentioned in the Post Game thread and wonder if the camera crew chose not to show it! 

So perhaps he didn't get a free, which would be typical of our luck with umpires!

according to the AFL site stats, he got 0 frees for.

 

[What 18,810]

Anyone notice how bad Buddy Franklin has looked lately?   Either hes carrying an injury or  all that mileage has finally caught up to him. Or both.

Reading the Swans forum and some of the supporters wanted him rested or shut down completely for the season.   

Sam Frost will get the job him in Round 21 you'd think. 

[jnrmac 20,055]

So the Jack Higgins goal. Incredible quick thinking but was it a throw?

Scenario 1

Imagine I had the ball and was about to be tackled. I threw the ball over the head of the tackler, ran around him and caught the ball before it hit the ground. Legit or not?

Scenario 2

Similarly if I was running towards the boundary and like in cricket grabbed the ball, threw it in the air, ran over the boundary and them back in where I caught the ball before hitting the ground. Legit?

I am very sympathetic to the higgins goal as it was great to see, in front of a big crowd and at a big time in the game.

But the AFL make stuff up as they go and this is no exception. To me it was a bad decision.

Thoughts?

 

[beelzebub 23,313]

1 minute ago, jnrmac said:

So the Jack Higgins goal. Incredible quick thinking but was it a throw?

Scenario 1

Imagine I had the ball and was about to be tackled. I threw the ball over the head of the tackler, ran around him and caught the ball before it hit the ground. Legit or not?

Scenario 2

Similarly if I was running towards the boundary and like in cricket grabbed the ball, threw it in the air, ran over the boundary and them back in where I caught the ball before hitting the ground. Legit?

I am very sympathetic to the higgins goal as it was great to see, in front of a big crowd and at a big time in the game.

But the AFL make stuff up as they go and this is no exception. To me it was a bad decision.

Thoughts?

 

He's totally within his rights to release the ball however he likes... provided he actually kicks it.

If he doesn't .... it's a throw.

The scenarios you describe are throws. No attempt to kick

It's not as complicated as some might think.

[Earl Hood 6,082]

3 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

So the Jack Higgins goal. Incredible quick thinking but was it a throw?

Scenario 1

Imagine I had the ball and was about to be tackled. I threw the ball over the head of the tackler, ran around him and caught the ball before it hit the ground. Legit or not?

Scenario 2

Similarly if I was running towards the boundary and like in cricket grabbed the ball, threw it in the air, ran over the boundary and them back in where I caught the ball before hitting the ground. Legit?

I am very sympathetic to the higgins goal as it was great to see, in front of a big crowd and at a big time in the game.

But the AFL make stuff up as they go and this is no exception. To me it was a bad decision.

Thoughts?

 

No it was not a throw. A throw is where I attempt to get the ball to someone else, or just release the ball under pressure and fail to handball or get a boot to the ball.

I think I can do whatever I like when getting the ball to my own boot! 

[jnrmac 20,055]

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

He's totally within his rights to release the ball however he likes... provided he actually kicks it.

If he doesn't .... it's a throw.

The scenarios you describe are throws. No attempt to kick

It's not as complicated as some might think.

Ok so If I threw the ball over a tacklers head and kicked it before it hit the ground would that be any different?

[Chook 15,012]

18 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Ok so If I threw the ball over a tacklers head and kicked it before it hit the ground would that be any different?

No, unless the tackler tackled you. That would be prior opportunity and gawn.

[SFebes 4,884]

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Anyone notice how bad Buddy Franklin has looked lately?   Either hes carrying an injury or  all that mileage has finally caught up to him. Or both.

Reading the Swans forum and some of the supporters wanted him rested or shut down completely for the season.   

Sam Frost will get the job him in Round 21 you'd think. 

Apparently on the weekend, I think it was Longmire, said Buddy has only trained for 20mins in total for the whole season. So definitely been injured all year

[Lucifers Hero 39,597]

Neither May nor Zac Jones have contested their respective one and two weeks suspensions.  They will not line up against us in the next two weeks.

While it doesn't affect our prospects Cheney accepted his one week suspension for striking Fritsch off the ball.

 

On another note, Josh Kennedy (WCE) is out again this week and hopes to get back the following week (vs Port).  Let's hope his recovery is slow until after round 22 so he doesn't play against us...

Edited July 31, 2018 by Lucifer's Hero

[John Crow Batty 8,861]

Charlie Curnow has got off on appeal for whacking Stephen May. I can’t recall any player having their punishment upheld on appeal this season. They all seem to get off. Can anyone correct me?